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Thatboyb said...
I get this and i understand it. I just didnt like the way our President was being disrespected in this thread. I just feel like everyone supported Bush and alot of other presidents who were not very good. So why does Obama not deserve the same. I said i dont agree with everthing he does or has done. I just dont understand why the hatred. To come on here and say you hate him and he is ruining this country is kinda crazy to me, because like you pointed out this didnt start with Obama and probably wont end with him either. I appreciate the intelligence of this post though, and i will definately look into the things you are talking about. Hating each other is not going to get where we want to be as a country, and i dont see it happening until we unite as one country as a whole. Sorry if i went all MLK on yall.
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Thatboyb said...
I get this and i understand it. I just didnt like the way our President was being disrespected in this thread. I just feel like everyone supported Bush and alot of other presidents who were not very good. So why does Obama not deserve the same. I said i dont agree with everthing he does or has done. I just dont understand why the hatred. To come on here and say you hate him and he is ruining this country is kinda crazy to me, because like you pointed out this didnt start with Obama and probably wont end with him either. I appreciate the intelligence of this post though, and i will definately look into the things you are talking about. Hating each other is not going to get where we want to be as a country, and i dont see it happening until we unite as one country as a whole. Sorry if i went all MLK on yall.
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gordosan said...
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President Obama's second term could really be something. In the latest disdain for the Constitution's checks and balances, the National Labor Relations Board has declared that it doesn't like the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals Friday ruling that three board members were illegally appointed so it plans to ignore it.
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lhorns said...
And, to those worried about the disrespect toward Obama, I can somewhat agree with you, but.......
1) is Obama respectful of those that disagree with him? I would argue "no." He and his cronies constantly demonize or belittle his opponents and dispose of their ideas without addressing them. And how often does a person risk disagreeing with him without a supporter of Obama - often even people in an official capacity - saying or insinuating that any opposition to his ideas must be racism?
2) Is Obama respectful of the Constitution? I would argue no. He interprets the Constitution selectively and treats it like a buffet line. He picks and chooses what parts he will choose to use to his advantage, support or disregard. Others have done similarly - Jackson most notably, as well as both Roosevelts and LBJ - but (my opinion) it seems to me that Obama is worse about it on the most basic of Constitutional issues. Some of his actions seem focused on directly impacting individual rights. And they seem to circumvent Congress (checks-and-balances/separation of powers) more than the others.
He is the president. He was elected. I get it. I can respect the office. I don't believe he is evil or has evil intentions. I might like the guy just fine if he came to a backyard barbecue at my house. But I honestly and fully believe he is wrong and the arrogance of many of his actions are dangerous to the short and long term success of the country.
His actions are, in my opinion, remarkable short-sighted for someone of his intelligence.
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As a Clinton democrat, which might surprise some in here, I try to be objective about Obama. I find that much of my dislike for him and his administration centers on the way that the media (Chris Matthews et al) treats him as untochably great. Never has the mainstream media really questioned why his college transcripts are off limits. Did he receive financial aid because he claimed to be foreign born like the new Senator from Mass claimed to be Native American. I have made it clear that I believe because his mother was an American citizen- he is. If the law does not say that change the law. It is why are they sealed that bothers me. It is the soft ball questions he receives that get to me.
thorns hit a lot of my points. Obama and crew trash those who disagree. He is like Nixon in that reguard. He is hidden behind the race card. His view of the Constitution is far different than mine. His view of wellfare is far different than mine. Clinton had workfair. His Obamacare is a sale out to the worse part of the Medical industry- insuring profit for big insurance companies and having the IRS enforce payments to the same. He opporates in a world of secrecy as opposed to free and open compromise with the rest of us who disagree with his policies.
Tax is the T word. He has increased it dramatically and for what? Not to defend our country for the enemies within and without. Humanitarian you say? Ok, but are we giving fish and games to entertain to the masses rather than asking them to contribute to society as a whole by learning a trade and actually working?
Enough of the rant. My country would have been far better has H.Clinton been elected to two terms.
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The GOP is a victim of their own social conservatism. This country is rapidly changing to being socially liberal and a lot more emphasis is put on tolerance and the such. Meanwhile the GOP is comes off as a bunch of Jesus/Religion crazy hicks who want to control your social and personal life.
Since the majority of people aren't clued in to economic policies (and most politicians aren't either) the voters tend to vote more on social issues than economic. Joe and Jane Doe have no freaking idea if GOP or Dem economic principles will work or not, but they understand damn well that GOP talks about restricting their choices in things like abortion, and that they're heavily religious which turns a lot of people off these days. So that's what they vote based on
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