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    BuckHorn

  • Bjenkins2145 said...

    So in what way is Black America "taught" to feel like the system is rigged? Is it the political system or "the system" as a whole?

    Look at the backlash from Black America when an AA speaks of voting Republican. Stacey Dash, Herman Cain, Alan West, etc. are all called Uncle Tom(s), house [n-word]. How else can you explain it, if it's not something taught?

    I would say that it's both the political system and "the system" as a whole. When the unemployment rate is 15-18% in the AA community, why would that community still vote predominately for those that claim to want to help them but actually do little in anything at all?

    NLeininger

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  • Bjenkins2145 said...

    As a black man, exactly what do you mean?

    Rodney King multiplied by every major city in America. As a black man; are you complete blind to the recent history of black rioting. Obama has been the most racially divisive president since Douglas in 1856. If you think that is only the opinion of a conservative white man; go to the link to an extremely liberal woman linked below. Eric Holder is the most political attorney general in memory and he will enable and possibly foment unrest in an attempt to influence the outcome of a court case challenging the results of Ohio if Obama narrowly loses. If you don't understand the risks of that event; then you are blind sir.

    Althouse: Camille Paglia, who voted for Obama in '08, delivers a fine rant about why she's not voting for him this time.

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/10/camille-paglia-who-voted-for-obama-in.html

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    gordosan

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    beldar

  • JeezGuy said...

    Man-Bear Pig tears in my eyes laughing.

    Knew you could not come up with anythng that brilliant on your own.

    beldar

  • gordosan said...

    Rodney King multiplied by every major city in America. As a black man; are you complete blind to the recent history of black rioting. Obama has been the most racially divisive president since Douglas in 1856. If you think that is only the opinion of a conservative white man; go to the link to an extremely liberal woman linked below. Eric Holder is the most political attorney general in memory and he will enable and possibly foment unrest in an attempt to influence the outcome of a court case challenging the results of Ohio if Obama narrowly loses. If you don't understand the risks of that event; then you are blind sir.

    I want to apologize ahead of time for my jumping around. Had a long night and there are a few things that need to be addressed here...

    I lived in the LA riots, so I am not blind at all and I am completely aware of the history, having had parents and grandparents involved in the riots of Detroit and Watts. But for you to assume that will be the case with the election, is honestly insulting to my race. I venture to guess you have no idea of why these riots have taken place. Unless you have walked in these shoes, I know you have no clue. Tell me when you have been surrounded by 6 police cars, with officers jumping out of their cars with guns drawn, while you are simply washing your car. Your told that you "fit the description" of a burgulary suspect and you're manhandled and arrested after you have shown proper ID and proof that you were nowhere near the scene. This as a 17 year old high school student. You may be naive to the fact that this goes on, but it does; frequently. Those in 1992 were fed up with the social/racial inequalities and harrassment by the LAPD, CHP, and LASD, and to watch them get off once again for brutality that was caught on tape this time. But for you to think that it would happen because of an election? You apparently don't think we have the mental capacity to think rationally. Maybe there would be riots, but I would believe that we are more rational than that.

    Obama racially divisive? That is an opinion and not a fact. I already read too many of your one-sided opinions. Give me facts on that, and then we can talk.

    Obama has been been the most vilified sitting president EVER. You all on this site alone have called him a liar, cheat, pig, idiot, retard. Hell you have talked about his wife. What did she do? You have called him muslim, eventhough he had been with the same Christian church for 20 years. You have called him Anti-American. You have called his citizenship into question. What other president has had their citizenship called into question. He went through the same verification as every other presidential candidate, and now you call it into question? And its not just this site, it is in the everyday world. He has been disrespected and yelled at on national TV during his SOTU address by another elected congressman. What president have you seen that happen to? And you say Obama is the one that is racially divisive?

    Bjenkins2145

  • gordosan said...

    If you think that is only the opinion of a conservative white man; go to the link to an extremely liberal woman linked below.

    Great find and thanks for the link. Refreshing to see an outspoken critic of the left denounce the hijacking of her party by elites and statists.

    "So I feel the Democratic Party needs to be shattered and remade to recover its true progressive roots. I don't see progressives. All I see is white upper-middle-class liberals who speak in this unctuous way about the needs of the poor."

    TXStampede

  • NLeininger said...

    Look at the backlash from Black America when an AA speaks of voting Republican. Stacey Dash, Herman Cain, Alan West, etc. are all called Uncle Tom(s), house [n-word]. How else can you explain it, if it's not something taught?

    I would say that it's both the political system and "the system" as a whole. When the unemployment rate is 15-18% in the AA community, why would that community still vote predominately for those that claim to want to help them but actually do little in anything at all?

    I won't make excuses for some of my people's insensitive comments, but how different is it from the backlash someone like Colin Powell has received from his own party?

    It is taught, because we have lived it. I don't expect you to be able to relate, because you more than likely have not lived it. When you are pulled over because you don't belong somewhere or you are arrested because you fit the description come back and talk to me. When you go and help a black church rebuild their church after it has been burned down by whites, then we can talk.

    As far as voting, so if the party doesn't do anything to help them, I guess the Republican party does? Tell me how?

    Bjenkins2145

  • Bjenkins2145 said...

    I won't make excuses for some of my people's insensitive comments, but how different is it from the backlash someone like Colin Powell has received from his own party?

    It is taught, because we have lived it. I don't expect you to be able to relate, because you more than likely have not lived it. When you are pulled over because you don't belong somewhere or you are arrested because you fit the description come back and talk to me. When you go and help a black church rebuild their church after it has been burned down by whites, then we can talk.

    As far as voting, so if the party doesn't do anything to help them, I guess the Republican party does? Tell me how?

    You do know that Black on White crime far surpasses White on Black ?

    You may not as the former is seldom reported by the media while the latter always makes the headlines.

    BuckHorn

  • BuckHorn said...

    You do know that Black on White crime far surpasses White on Black ?

    You may not as the former is seldom reported by the media while the latter always makes the headlines.

    And you bring this up because? It might be my tired head after watching that train wreck or a game, but I am struggling to find what that has to do with the conversation.

    Bjenkins2145

  • Bjenkins2145 said...

    I won't make excuses for some of my people's insensitive comments, but how different is it from the backlash someone like Colin Powell has received from his own party?

    It is taught, because we have lived it. I don't expect you to be able to relate, because you more than likely have not lived it. When you are pulled over because you don't belong somewhere or you are arrested because you fit the description come back and talk to me. When you go and help a black church rebuild their church after it has been burned down by whites, then we can talk.

    As far as voting, so if the party doesn't do anything to help them, I guess the Republican party does? Tell me how?

    Bjenkins2145 - political racial question for you...

    IMO, one person that's been allowed to get away with making racist comments is VP Joe Biden...first, he goes after Barack Obama in the 2008 primaries saying Barack Obama is "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean..."

    Recently, there were media reports about President Obama being a direct descendent of one of the first slaves in America...& Biden decides to make a slavery joke in front of the NAACP

    Just me, but it's time Biden is called out for the racist that he's proven himself to be...would you agree? Thoughts?

    mcb0703

  • Bjenkins2145 said...

    And you bring this up because? It might be my tired head after watching that train wreck or a game, but I am struggling to find what that has to do with the conversation.

    Because you whined about how mistreated you, as a Black man, have been by Whites.

    You brought it up.

    Look, here's the truth - take your average Black guy and drop him off in an all White neighborhood at midnight and someone will call it in and he will be escorted out. Put a White guy in the 'hood late at night and he'll be lucky to make it out alive.

    That's a fact and you know it.

    BuckHorn

  • mcb0703 said...

    Bjenkins2145 - political racial question for you...

    IMO, one person that's been allowed to get away with making racist comments is VP Joe Biden...first, he goes after Barack Obama in the 2008 primaries saying Barack Obama is "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean..."

    Recently, there were media reports about President Obama being a direct descendent of one of the first slaves in America...& Biden decides to make a slavery joke in front of the NAACP

    Just me, but it's time Biden is called out for the racist that he's proven himself to be...would you agree? Thoughts?

    My honest opinion about Biden? I think he is very uneducated regarding African-Americans. Racist? That's a strong word to use on anyone...I haven't called anyone myself racist or alluded to the fact. Biden's comments he made in August were definitely racially insensitive.

    As far as what he said about Obama in the 2008 primaries, it doesn't surprise me...I have lost count how many times I have been told this by a white person. Frankly it's a fact of life. When what you see on TV is back people sagging, n this, n that, using slang and so forth, what do you expect.

    Bjenkins2145

  • Bjenkins2145 said...

    My honest opinion about Biden? I think he is very uneducated regarding African-Americans. Racist? That's a strong word to use on anyone...I haven't called anyone myself racist or alluded to the fact. Biden's comments he made in August were definitely racially insensitive.

    As far as what he said about Obama in the 2008 primaries, it doesn't surprise me...I have lost count how many times I have been told this by a white person. Frankly it's a fact of life. When what you see on TV is back people sagging, n this, n that, using slang and so forth, what do you expect.

    Appreciate the reply...for me, I don't consider Biden any different than former Mississippi Senator Trent Lott with the comments he made...or former (R) Senator Jessie Helms with his historic racial problems as well as (D) Senator Robert Byrd & his time in the KKK

    Embarrassment would be another word I would use

    mcb0703

  • BuckHorn said...

    Because you whined about how mistreated you, as a Black man, have been by Whites.

    You brought it up.

    Look, here's the truth - take your average Black guy and drop him off in an all White neighborhood at midnight and someone will call it in and he will be escorted out. Put a White guy in the 'hood late at night and he'll be lucky to make it out alive.

    That's a fact and you know it.

    If you want to classify what I said as whining...No problem. I am totally aware of the disparities between black on white crime exceeds white on black crime. And I understand that it's a fact of life that I have to deal with the fact the I will be judge by my skin color more so than a white man will be his.

    What I was trying to get across is that you don't have to deal with the things I have to in that regards. The police won't pull you over and question you as to why you are in the "hood". However, I will get that treatment driving in a place such as Highland Park even if I am on business.

    As far as facts are concerned, if you and I commit the same crime and are sent to prison, what are the chances your sentence is longer than mine? Next to ZERO. Blacks recieve sentences 23% longer than their white counterparts and that percentage is growing. So are we really playing on the same level field at the end of the day?

    Bjenkins2145

  • Bjenkins2145 said...

    If you want to classify what I said as whining...No problem. I am totally aware of the disparities between black on white crime exceeds white on black crime. And I understand that it's a fact of life that I have to deal with the fact the I will be judge by my skin color more so than a white man will be his.

    What I was trying to get across is that you don't have to deal with the things I have to in that regards. The police won't pull you over and question you as to why you are in the "hood". However, I will get that treatment driving in a place such as Highland Park even if I am on business.

    As far as facts are concerned, if you and I commit the same crime and are sent to prison, what are the chances your sentence is longer than mine? Next to ZERO. Blacks recieve sentences 23% longer than their white counterparts and that percentage is growing. So are we really playing on the same level field at the end of the day?

    Do you honestly think having someone in authority fluck with you is unique to Black males ?

    Hate to break it to you Hoss but it happens to us White boys too.

    Authority does pretty much whatever it wants. You seem to view life thru a Black/White prism so you jump to that rational to explain it.

    Sorry, but I'm not going to sympathize with your "you don't have to deal with things that I have to" spiel.

    BuckHorn

  • BuckHorn said...

    Do you honestly think having someone in authority fluck with you is unique to Black males ?

    Hate to break it to you Hoss but it happens to us White boys too.

    Authority does pretty much whatever it wants. You seem to view life thru a Black/White prism so you jump to that rational to explain it.

    Sorry, but I'm not going to sympathize with your "you don't have to deal with things that I have to" spiel.

    I'm not asking for your sympathy. I could care less. If you want to believe that things roll the same way for both of our races, then you sir are unfortunately part of the problem.

    It's funny how you can make an assumption that I view things through that prism. My view of life is VERY open. It seems to be a lot more open than you allow yourself to view things.

    Seeing how you brought up black killing more whites than vice versa and say how whites can only pray to get out of the "hood" alive, and how you say "oh white people get the same treatment as black guys do", it looks like you are pulling at straws to try and justify your stance. Tell me the last time the authorities have pulled you over to question your motives?

    Bjenkins2145

  • Bjenkins2145 said...

    Tell me the last time the authorities have pulled you over to question your motives?

    About three weeks ago. Pricinct 4 constable. All playing the victim card does is keep Al Sharpton's lear jet gassed up.
    Do yourself a favor. Google former Chicago Bull Bob Love, order his inspirational video. I think it is titled "If it is to be, it is because of me". Every person of every race should listen to it.

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    NCypress

  • NCypress said...

    About three weeks ago. Pricinct 4 constable. All playing the victim card does is keep Al Sharpton's lear jet gassed up.
    Do yourself a favor. Google former Chicago Bull Bob Love, order his inspirational video. I think it is titled "If it is to be, it is because of me". Every person of every race should listen to it.

    Have the book and have heard him speak in person. And I agree, it is a great read for all people.

    Bjenkins2145

  • Bjenkins2145 said...

    Have the book and have heard him speak in person. And I agree, it is a great read for all people.

    I have seen him as well, truly inspirational.

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    NCypress

  • I went to go see him with my dad who has long suffered from stuttering and my son who also suffers with it as well.

    Bjenkins2145

  • Bjenkins2145 said...

    I'm not asking for your sympathy. I could care less. If you want to believe that things roll the same way for both of our races, then you sir are unfortunately part of the problem.

    It's funny how you can make an assumption that I view things through that prism. My view of life is VERY open. It seems to be a lot more open than you allow yourself to view things.

    Seeing how you brought up black killing more whites than vice versa and say how whites can only pray to get out of the "hood" alive, and how you say "oh white people get the same treatment as black guys do", it looks like you are pulling at straws to try and justify your stance. Tell me the last time the authorities have pulled you over to question your motives?

    Give it BJ, this guy is Rush Limbaugh the second. You can tell how people think by their comments. You can not fix stupid.

    beldar

  • beldar said...

    Give it BJ, this guy is Rush Limbaugh the second. You can tell how people think by their comments. You can not fix stupid.

    what the fuck does this even mean?

    NLeininger

  • beldar said...

    You can not fix stupid.

    You prove that with every post.

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    Don't be afraid to ride the lightning.

    NCypress