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With the Maryland-Rutgers move, what happens to Texas?

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  • deronjohn said...

    I wonder if we are starting to see the wheels falling off of our program slowly. I work in IT and I remember Microsoft being the dominant company in terms of innovation and success. They never truly failed but Microsoft lost out on taking advantage of its success and growing in other markets.

    This allowed Google, Apple, and even Oracle to dominate nitch markets and overtake microsoft in some areas. Microsoft is now finally making a recovery after about a 10 year period of slow growth and development.

    That is how I am starting to feel about Texas. Adding teams like FSU, Miami, Georgia Tech, Louisville expand our football brand east much like Texas A&M has and now Texas A&M is benefiting from it.

    Microsoft had guys in charge who became cocky and complacent and caused them to miss out on innovations such as facebook, search (Google) and they never truly caught up. All of the young Standford graduates went to work at Google, Oracle, and Apple.

    I worry that this is where we are headed. We have a lot of cocky arrogant old guys in charge that seem to be fascinated with stuffing their pockets and not concerned about the big picture and long term success.

    just my 2 cents

    As someone who works in tech as well, this is how I have thought for a while now.

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  • deronjohn said...

    I wonder if we are starting to see the wheels falling off of our program slowly. I work in IT and I remember Microsoft being the dominant company in terms of innovation and success. They never truly failed but Microsoft lost out on taking advantage of its success and growing in other markets.

    This allowed Google, Apple, and even Oracle to dominate nitch markets and overtake microsoft in some areas. Microsoft is now finally making a recovery after about a 10 year period of slow growth and development.

    That is how I am starting to feel about Texas. Adding teams like FSU, Miami, Georgia Tech, Louisville expand our football brand east much like Texas A&M has and now Texas A&M is benefiting from it.

    Microsoft had guys in charge who became cocky and complacent and caused them to miss out on innovations such as facebook, search (Google) and they never truly caught up. All of the young Standford graduates went to work at Google, Oracle, and Apple.

    I worry that this is where we are headed. We have a lot of cocky arrogant old guys in charge that seem to be fascinated with stuffing their pockets and not concerned about the big picture and long term success.

    just my 2 cents

    I agree.

    Sometimes I wonder about Dodd's true motivation.

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  • cmhoover said...

    Yeah, Mack never could get us near championships.

    With an absolutely transcendent player at the QB position, yes, Mack has gotten Texas to championships. How have the other years worked out?

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  • DLev said...
    The notion that things changed yesterday because an ACC bottom feeder and a Big East bottom feeder went to the Big 10 is absurd. If things were as bad as everyone says, they were that bad last week. Yesterday did not change anything except provide an opening for folks to repeat existing talking points.

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    Last time I checked Rutgers was in first place in the big east with an undefeated conf record, not sure how that qualifies as "bottom feeder" status

    Maybe you should do some research before arguing irrelevant points

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  • maceoa9903 said...

    With an absolutely transcendent player at the QB position, yes, Mack has gotten Texas to championships. How have the other years worked out?

    I would respectfully ask that this thread which is about the future of the conference and all the programs not devolve into a Mack bashing/defending pissing match. It serves no purpose and is in every other thread on the board. Even the most fervent Mack defenders don't expect him to remain the coach for much longer and this is about the future of all the programs so it is really irrelevant to the conversation.

    This post was edited by utsal on 11/20/2012 at 9:22 AM

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  • bevo244 said...

    DLev said... The notion that things changed yesterday because an ACC bottom feeder and a Big East bottom feeder went to the Big 10 is absurd. If things were as bad as everyone says, they were that bad last week. Yesterday did not change anything except provide an opening for folks to repeat existing talking points.

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    Last time I checked Rutgers was in first place in the big east with an undefeated conf record, not sure how that qualifies as "bottom feeder" status

    Maybe you should do some research before arguing irrelevant points

    Rutgers is 100% a bottom feeder. Having a decent team every 5 to 10 years does not make you less of a bottom feeder. Quick, name one player on the team. Name 2 alumni outside of Ray Rice and Brian Leonard.

    utsal

  • NorthsideHorn said...

    Yeah, that sounded like nonsense to me. If we are still using the BCS rankings to select the playoff teams, the computers have the big12 higher than the big and ACC.

    And the big10 just got overall weaker IMO.

    That said, I do think Texas and OU should put out feelers to all 3 conferences and see if anybody wants to make a deal.

    That is the problem with the new "playoff", it really isn't a playoff if the participants are going to be decided by opinion and voters.

    If the playoff would be 8 teams and champions of conferences only or 16 teams with the champions and runners up participating only, then conference re-alignment would pretty much end or finalize and go back to the regional conferences that we used to have.

    The corruption,polls,rankings and opinions need to end.

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  • Jackdaddy said...

    And Bucky is as big an idiot as there is in talk radio.

    I don't prefer his bodily functions so out front on the air waves. But he makes sense and has good insight many times. Remember, he was on the inside at the 40....

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  • It is a mistake to believe this in any way has anything to do with what happens on the field of play.

    This is a money grab for additional TV sets for conference networks and nothing else. There is no big picture, no big plans, nothing. These guys are trying to improve their bottom lines as much as possible for their conference networks because it's the fastest way to increase revenue for everyone.

    Something to note - the quality of football played in the Big Ten (outside of Columbus) has declined every year since the formation of the Big Ten Network. There's little incentive for individual programs to win as they can just gravy train off of the BTN revenues.

    Many accuse our AD of thinking only about money and not enough about wins and losses (rightfully so, I should add). Imagine that now on a conference level. That's what is going on in the Big Ten and is starting to occur in the SEC. Having a competitive product on the field is secondary to increasing the number of major media markets in the conference network footprint.

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  • Whether or not Rutgers is a bottom feeder is completely irrelevant. They were added to give the B1G more money and access to their network. They added them to help push the Big 10 Network into the basic cable package in an area with a lot of Big 10 fans, and believe it or not, yes a lot of Rutgers fans.

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  • unadulteratedtruth said...

    Knee jerk.

    Maryland and Rutgers are certainly no more valuable than the weaker Big 12 teams that you denigrate.

    Texas and OU are, and will for the foreseeable future be, football royalty. Top to bottom, the Big 12 is one of the top leagues. Almost every Big 12 team has played in a BCS game in the last 10 years.

    Texas is still the #1 franchise in college football and there is no sign of any imminent design. Fear of an inferior Big 10 or SEC second place team being chosen over Texas for a playoff spot is silly.

    'Texas is still the #1 franchise in college football and there is no sign of any imminent design.'
    and on the upswing this season right now...all it takes is for the Lines to be shored up, Searles is doing this w/o balance and enough OTackles. Then some shoring up in the LB'g unit, Secondary, a proven pass catching TE. Efficient Kicker. Maturity will bring that I feel. Looking forever for consistent, productive Cvg units.

    PS also OU is still capable of defeating almost any opponent. TX a little less than, but capable. OK St has that ability as well.

    This post was edited by Bruce7 on 11/20/2012 at 9:35 AM

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  • The Dog said...

    It is a mistake to believe this in any way has anything to do with what happens on the field of play.

    This is a money grab for additional TV sets for conference networks and nothing else. There is no big picture, no big plans, nothing. These guys are trying to improve their bottom lines as much as possible for their conference networks because it's the fastest way to increase revenue for everyone.

    Something to note - the quality of football played in the Big Ten (outside of Columbus) has declined every year since the formation of the Big Ten Network. There's little incentive for individual programs to win as they can just gravy train off of the BTN revenues.

    Many accuse our AD of thinking only about money and not enough about wins and losses (rightfully so, I should add). Imagine that now on a conference level. That's what is going on in the Big Ten and is starting to occur in the SEC. Having a competitive product on the field is secondary to increasing the number of major media markets in the conference network footprint.

    I believe your insight is correct in many ways.

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  • deronjohn said...

    I worry that this is where we are headed. We have a lot of cocky arrogant old guys in charge that seem to be fascinated with stuffing their pockets and not concerned about the big picture and long term success.

    just my 2 cents

    I agree, Belmont needs to pull their head out of the sand and see what's going on around them before it all passes them by.

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  • The Dog said...

    It is a mistake to believe this in any way has anything to do with what happens on the field of play.

    This is a money grab for additional TV sets for conference networks and nothing else. There is no big picture, no big plans, nothing. These guys are trying to improve their bottom lines as much as possible for their conference networks because it's the fastest way to increase revenue for everyone.

    Something to note - the quality of football played in the Big Ten (outside of Columbus) has declined every year since the formation of the Big Ten Network. There's little incentive for individual programs to win as they can just gravy train off of the BTN revenues.

    Many accuse our AD of thinking only about money and not enough about wins and losses (rightfully so, I should add). Imagine that now on a conference level. That's what is going on in the Big Ten and is starting to occur in the SEC. Having a competitive product on the field is secondary to increasing the number of major media markets in the conference network footprint.

    I think A&M was a great add for the SEC competitively, geographically, and financially. A&M took a gamble, they had to take a gamble, and so far it's paying off. I think Texas also needs to be proactive. In light of the evolution of the other major conferences, The Big 12 as it stands today is not the long term answer competitively or financially.

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  • Heisenberg said...

    I agree, Belmont needs to pull their head out of the sand and see what's going on around them before it all passes them by.

    you have a lot of those in our fan base too. just look at the small sampling size of this board.

    Bill Stickers

  • utsal said...

    Rutgers is 100% a bottom feeder. Having a decent team every 5 to 10 years does not make you less of a bottom feeder. Quick, name one player on the team. Name 2 alumni outside of Ray Rice and Brian Leonard.

    Rutgers has about 20 players in the NFL right now.

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