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Why was this OU game different?

  • Of the four blowouts at the hands of the Sooners, this was the worst of all.

    There was a feel to this game unlike any of the others.

    There was a sense of hopelessness, not of derisiveness or the thoughts of what could have been.

    In the past, there were always turnovers that aided the Sooners running it up or maybe a scintillating Vince Young run to cling to for hope. That was never the case on Saturday.

    The Longhorns left the game with no hope because they never had any answers for the Sooners.

    This game wasn't about Texas shooting itself in the foot on offense and defense. It was about the Longhorns being incapable.

    The defense had no clue how to stop a two-back offense in the pistol formation.

    The offense had no game plan for an out-matched offensive line.

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    Of the four blowouts at the hands of the Sooners, this was the worst of all.

    There was a feel to this game unlike any of the others.

    There was a sense of hopelessness, not of derisiveness or the thoughts of what could have been.

    In the past, there were always turnovers that aided the Sooners running it up or maybe a scintillating Vince Young run to cling to for hope. That was never the case on Saturday.

    The Longhorns left the game with no hope because they never had any answers for the Sooners.

    This game wasn't about Texas shooting itself in the foot on offense and defense. It was about the Longhorns being incapable.

    The defense had no clue how to stop a two-back offense in the pistol formation.

    The offense had no game plan for an out-matched offensive line.

    Its time for a new staff not just DC.

    Bevo15

  • Hopefully this game will be the impetus to finding a new head football coach.

    NLeininger

  • It also erased any notion that we are on a positive trajectory as a program. It made me feel like we have spent three years and are still stuck in 2010. It made it plainly obvious to anyone that under Mack Brown, this program is not headed in the right direction.

    Newy25

  • interesting discussion elsewhere re "so what do we do about it"?

    If no hope on the field, is there any hope of fixing the leadership of what's on the field?

    One poster says there are 3 camps in big donors:
    1) let mack leave on his own terms
    2) ease mack out gracefully
    3) hire Saban/Kelly type yesterday

    It's somewhat mystical to know how these things are working behind the scenes. Another poster says nothing happens until Powers wants it.

    Can you shed some more light?

    If it really is true that Mack lost the team tonight (we'll get confirmation of this by same time next week), how much longer can our money-making-machine tolerate our mediocrity?

    Really appreciate your insights, Bobby...

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by jjloehr on 10/13/2012 at 10:05 PM

    jjloehr

  • BobbyBurton said...

    Of the four blowouts at the hands of the Sooners, this was the worst of all.

    There was a feel to this game unlike any of the others.

    There was a sense of hopelessness, not of derisiveness or the thoughts of what could have been.

    In the past, there were always turnovers that aided the Sooners running it up or maybe a scintillating Vince Young run to cling to for hope. That was never the case on Saturday.

    The Longhorns left the game with no hope because they never had any answers for the Sooners.

    This game wasn't about Texas shooting itself in the foot on offense and defense. It was about the Longhorns being incapable.

    The defense had no clue how to stop a two-back offense in the pistol formation.

    The offense had no game plan for an out-matched offensive line.

    It's shocking how unprepared this team was. I'm mailing my ticket to Mack and asking for a refund.

    JOJP

  • This team is impotent. Impressive to look at, but a critical loss of function renders us useless.

    HORNed FROG

  • this game completely negated all of the perceived progress the team had made since 5-7. This was supposed to be a season that shows Texas is on the way back towards the top and featured a team that could run the ball and play defense, and now it looks like a season where Texas can't do either of those things and is in survival mode each week.

    This game sealed Mack's legacy IMO. No matter what else he does, he's the coach who couldn't beat Kansas State or OU and allowed complacency bring down the Texas program.

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    Newy25

  • The thing that stings me is, I don't think this OU team is all that good. Sure, maybe 9-3 or 10-2 good. But not that good.

    tjhorn92

  • I know Bobby can't be candid but for the first time since I can remember there is overwhelming support in favor of Mack Brown being fired. I heard him in the post game saying some guys quit and that is total BS to me because they were never prepared to begin with.

    I posted this on other boards but this game was lost in Fall and Spring practice.

    Want to know why we can't run block, tackle, or stop the run?

    This team in estimation does not practice physical.

    You can't expect to be physical in games if you are not physical in practice

    deronjohn

  • jjloehr said...

    interesting discussion elsewhere re "so what do we do about it"?

    If no hope on the field, is there any hope of fixing the leadership of what's on the field?

    One poster says there are 3 camps in big donors: 1) let mack leave on his own terms 2) ease mack out gracefully 3) hire Saban/Kelly type yesterday

    It's somewhat mystical to know how these things are working behind the scenes. Another poster says nothing happens until Powers wants it.

    Can you shed some more light?

    If it really is true that Mack lost the team tonight (we'll get confirmation of this by same time next week), how much longer can our money-making-machine tolerate our mediocrity?

    Really appreciate your insights, Bobby...

    There aren't three camps right now among the big money guys.

    There's really only one. See what Mack does the rest of the year and go from there.

    Each week will be looked at closely.

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  • This was a bully stealing a kid's lunch money -- and then making him say "thank you."

    There are two different cultures at work here. One team comes in with a chip on their shoulder, looking for a fight, realizing just how much this game means to their fans -- their program.

    The other team comes in with a Deer-in-the-headlight look, tentative, confused.

    A wise man once said: "Trends are bunk, only angry people win football games."

    Mack Brown is incapable of creating the culture that emphasizes playing with an urgency, no matter the opponent.

    The very parts of his personality that have made him a spectacular salesman for the program also make him an imperfect coach for bitter rivalry games.

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    srr50

  • deronjohn said...

    Want to know why we can't run block, tackle, or stop the run?

    This team in estimation does not practice physical.

    You can't expect to be physical in games if you are not physical in practice

    deron,

    People are blaming lack of tackling in practice for losing this game.

    I think that's a very small part of it.

    I think they were out-schemed, out-game-planned and plain beat.

    Putting too much emphasis on one aspect misses the point IMO.

    This post was edited by BobbyBurton on 10/13/2012 at 10:13 PM

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  • deronjohn said...

    I know Bobby can't be candid but for the first time since I can remember there is overwhelming support in favor of Mack Brown being fired. I heard him in the post game saying some guys quit and that is total BS to me because they were never prepared to begin with.

    I don't see why people keep saying I can't be candid.

    Mack's got issues that I can't help him out of. Four blowouts is ridiculous and he knows it as well as anybody.

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  • Those blowouts are a little more palatable when they are to elite OU teams, UT is racking up 10-11 wins a year, and usually closing out the regular season with a drubbing of ATM.

    Things go far less smoothly when it's 5-7,8-5, and TBD on the table. And TBD is looking pretty bleak right now.

    I got brains. I got big ol' brains. I got dinosaur brains.

    Bobby_Batronic

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    There aren't three camps right now among the big money guys.

    There's really only one. See what Mack does the rest of the year and go from there.

    Each week will be looked at closely.

    Officially, they are in one camp. Texas has a really small group of big money donors to avoid the faction problem seen at other places like A&M. But there was some heated internal debate last year about supporting the current path. And those voices will be heard more after today. I was watching the game with of the members of that small group today and the best way to describe his mood? Apathy. Not even upset.

    Newy25


  • It was just the typical OU game without VY or Colt in my eyes. They out-executed in every phase. Bob Stoops treats this game like a jihad event every year and Mack Brown insists on mocking everyone like an idiot when he claims it is just another game. The key is that Mack Brown believes that, no matter how many times he gets kicked in the nuts by Stoops as a means of proving otherwise.

    I feel trapped as a fan. As long as Bellmont is making money, this guy has a force field around him. If 5-7 didn't slow ticket sales, I doubt 7-6 will. It's going to be a slow death and we're going to be tortured by it.

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  • srr50 said...

    The very parts of his personality that have made him a spectacular salesman for the program also make him an imperfect coach for bitter rivalry games.

    I

    You can have both IMO.

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  • Bobby_Batronic said...

    Those blowouts are a little more palatable when they are to elite OU teams, UT is racking up 10-11 wins a year, and usually closing out the regular season with a drubbing of ATM.

    Things go far less smoothly when it's 5-7,8-5, and TBD on the table. And TBD is looking pretty bleak right now.

    You aren't wrong, especially about the outlook for the rest of the year.

    I see one sure fire win (KU), with the rest of our games being very losable if this same Texas team keeps showing up.

    RichUT

  • BobbyBurton said...

    Of the four blowouts at the hands of the Sooners, this was the worst of all.

    There was a feel to this game unlike any of the others.

    There was a sense of hopelessness, not of derisiveness or the thoughts of what could have been.

    In the past, there were always turnovers that aided the Sooners running it up or maybe a scintillating Vince Young run to cling to for hope. That was never the case on Saturday.

    The Longhorns left the game with no hope because they never had any answers for the Sooners.

    This game wasn't about Texas shooting itself in the foot on offense and defense. It was about the Longhorns being incapable.

    The defense had no clue how to stop a two-back offense in the pistol formation.

    The offense had no game plan for an out-matched offensive line.

    Not the time to be out of up votes. Someone help me out here please

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    You can have both IMO.

    Yes you can, but it seems to be constitutionally impossible for Mack.

    srr50

  • srr50 said...

    This was a bully stealing a kid's lunch money -- and then making him say "thank you."

    There are two different cultures at work here. One team comes in with a chip on their shoulder, looking for a fight, realizing just how much this game means to their fans -- their program.

    The other team comes in with a Deer-in-the-headlight look, tentative, confused.

    A wise man once said: "Trends are bunk, only angry people win football games."

    Mack Brown is incapable of creating the culture that emphasizes playing with an urgency, no matter the opponent.

    The very parts of his personality that have made him a spectacular salesman for the program also make him an imperfect coach for bitter rivalry games.

    I

    I've always thought that OU comes out more fired up for these rivalry games. Way more than we do. And to me it almost seems we need a team that is head and shoulders above them talent wise to beat them. Because they always bring more passion and show more fight in these games.

    Utbevo04