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Quite honestly, if Ash hadn't played a good bowl game, I would seriously be considering making Case my starter this year. Especially if my job was on the line. That's how close this is.

Ash can turn in some good games, but he can also freeze up for a 2-3 game skid. I wouldn't risk another season on this... had it not been for his good bowl game.

But another way to look at what I just said is - ok, so he had a good bowl game. So what? Does that mean he won't go through another funk?

If we are serious about going to the hurry up, 2-back set, Case is not a bad bet anyway. For right or wrong, Case has confidence. Confidence is infectious. This is why our offense sometimes appears to have found another gear when Case comes in.

I would not describe Ash as exuding confidence. Ash does better when he snaps into "nothing to lose" mode. This usually happens after Case comes in and saves the day. But eventually Ash's nothing-to-lose attitude gives way to job security, and he then becomes overcautious, overthinking, and slips back into the funk.

While everything you said may be true in some sense I guess, here is the plain truth - Ash has indeed had the opportunity to show whether he's the man or not. Plenty of opportunity. He has turned in some good performances. He has also stunk up the joint.

Ash has not been slighted. If he were truly worthy of the unequivocal, clear role as starting QB, it would be easily his by now. But he just can't rise to that level.

Maybe he will next year, not saying he won't. But so far, no cigar.

Response to #1 -

Ash gets "pushed back down" by going into shut down mode. Not just some "BS".

Response to #2 -

I can't either.

+1 browncounty and I wish you were wrong, wrong, wrong. Wishing want make it so. I'd rather have the QB at Louisville after going to the Sugar Bowl but I don't think he is available. I know Florida wishes he had been playing for the Longhorns. Of course if Bridgewater had been playing for Texas then Florida would have been playing him anyway unless we had gotten a better Bowl than the Sugar Bowl. The QB is that important and just because he puts on Brunt Orange dosen't make him good.

If Ash had played like an outstanding QB all season then Case woud never have been on the field except in a mopup role. this is fact whether he was only a little better than McCoy or 3 tmes as good.The fact that didn't happen is on Ash and no one else. If McCoy had not come in and played as well as he did in the games that he did play good Texas would not have played in the Holiday Bowl or the Alamo bowl. The haters need to give him credit for that. How pissed off would you haters be if Texas had not played in any bowl and we have come with in minutes of that happening. He's not the reason we won all the games we won. He wasn't even part of some, or most, of those victories, but why can't he be given credit for his accomplishments. only that.

I'll give Case credit for one thing, his 25 yard herp derp scramble against aggy. That is it, he's done nothing else besides waste a scholarship.

Confidence doesn't mean shit when you can't make the throws. For every decent throw he has, he throws 2 or 3 "Are you freaking kidding me" throws. If defense and special teams does not bail him out against Aggy, his run means nothing. Ash has got his issues but it is not close. That's not how great David has been. That's how bad Case has been when we are given any more than small doses.

Sorry, he may not have turned into Colt but this is not all on David. The QB situation has been mismanaged for several years and that is the coaches fault, especially Mack. Ash should be coming into this year as a RS Soph ready to go. It also doesn't help that a change in philosophy on what they want to do on offense is now being implemented. Again.

As for hating, no. I just do not want him taking any reps any longer from guys that have a chance to develop. He was a legacy pick. I don't care what his rating or offers indicated. He should have never been offered.

No, explain it to me. How does Ash deserving but not getting first team reps after the Holiday Bowl on him? How was that him "shutting down"? Don't change the subject.

I'm with ya on Brewer. He seems to be the invisible man. Played well in last years spring game.

But as a side note, I think people underestimate how much Garrett Gilbert not working out cost us at the qb position. Didn't we lose Woods and Kinne to transfer because of him? And who knows what qb's we missed out on because they didn't want to ride the bench behind him. He impacted our qb recruiting until the 2012 recruiting class.

All I can conclude is you believe that everybody else should just be pushed to the back burner so that we don't huwt wittle Davy's feelwings.

David Ash has not earned unequivocal, head-and-shoulders, without a doubt, de facto numero uno, default QB at Texas. He has not earned it. Others can take some reps too.

But David is the #1, and it is his job, and he will be the man trotting out onto the field on opening day. Will he nail it down? I doubt it. He is lackluster, he is inconsistent, and he will prove that once again. The coaches know this.

So no, all eggs are not in the Ash basket, but he is deemed #1. And that's only for HIM to lose.

Last year should have been the first time Ash saw the field. Last years bad games by Ash should have been chalked up to youth and inexperience. If Ash shows similar improvement this year as he showed last year, then the QB position will be in good hands. McCoy almost broke his brothers record for consecutive completions against KSU but he also threw two of the worst out routes that I've ever seen. If McCoy plays at all then the out route must be removed. He simply doesn't have the arm strength to even have the route in our playbook. I agree that McCoy can come in and pull out a save but that is about the extent of it. If McCoy had to come in for more than one game, his lack of arm strength is so pronounced that any decent defense coordinator will jam the middle of the field and take away our passing game. Our QB situation is so bad that our backup QB couldn't transfer to any non aq school and get a scholarship.

We lost three roster QBs because of Gilbert.

Sherrod, Connor Wood, and Kinne.

No telling who all we missed out on by not offering.

Luck, RGIII, etc.

Mornin' sunshine!