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Where do you stand with Rick Barnes?

  • clacknasty said...

    This is just my personal preference. It has no merit. I believe players take on the personality of their coach.

    When you see Tom Izzo and Buzz Williams aggressively coaching their players on the sideline, working officials and coaching with passion I truly believe players respond to that. I would say in the last few years I have noticed Rick being more "relaxed" I guess is the word and sometimes I feel Texas plays that way. He barely gets up off the bench even when opposing teams are going bonkers or his players are playing undisciplined. He just kind of looks at Rob Lanier and says WTF. And you rarely see the rest of the coaching staff getting up in-game and providing in-play coaching. You see a ton of assistant coaches at other programs during a play getting up and making sure their players know to blitz a screen or some other coaching point. I really feel that is missing at Texas.

    On the other hand though you can provide plenty of examples from Coach K to Jim Boeheim who don't get up as much either. Again, that is just my personal preference and opinion.

    Barnes seems at times indifferent during games, which is a complete 180 from where he was as a coach on the court when he got here.

    Endust

  • Black Shipley said...

    Kabongo sure has a funny way of respecting his coach by not listening. JHam was a one and done type but it took him a year to respect Barnes. Its not just the one and dones either, so dont pigeonhole me. I used Brown as an example. The overrall point ive made is that lately it seems like his teams dont respect or listen to him as much as in the earlier years. Just seems that way to me. get upset about that perception or lack of if you wish, it still wont change my opinion.

    Who is upset? I don't have a problem with you saying that Hamilton or Brown have shown disrespect. But neither are one and dones and I know it's not tolerated. If you want to believe otherwise go ahead. As far as pigeonholing, I think you pretty much did that yourself by talking in terms of one and dones.

    When everyone on here agrees that he is too negative with his players at times, to the point of where it effects their performance, you can't expect people to support your opinion that he coddles them.

    HoopsCoach


  • watching Baylor right now make the elite 8 .....nuff said...... missed sweet 16 5 of last 6 years..... This is Penders type results....... Can't believe the Orange Nation thinks these results are acceptable.......
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    CatoTheElder

  • chris proctor said...

    watching Baylor right now make the elite 8 .....nuff said...... missed sweet 16 5 of last 6 years..... This is Penders type results....... Can't believe the Orange Nation thinks these results are acceptable....... =

    Baylor's performance has zero relevance to the discussion of whether or not Barnes is a good coach and the right coach for Texas. I just watched Ohio take UNC (minus their point guard) to overtime. Does this mean that Roy Williams is a bad coach, and his teams are clueless on offense without an outstanding point guard? (BTW, Steve Kerr has made it plain that he thinks UNC is clueless on offense, and that their other great players aren't as good, without their point guard.)

    If Kabongo leaves, next year Texas will have its 4th freshman PG in 4 seasons. Maybe it would help team stability to have one of these guys stay long enough to become a leader.

    texaztom ●

  • chris proctor said...

    This is Penders type results

    Ah don't sleep on Tournament Tom my friend.

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    clacknasty ●

  • Scipio Texas has a pretty good write up on this topic where he tries to put things in perspective.

    Last Night's Sweet 16 Games, the State of College Basketball, and Rick Barnes - Barking Carnival

    All the latest Texas Longhorns news and commentary.

    www.barkingcarnival.com

    Hornographer ●

  • I like Coach Barnes.
    But if Ohio St can be Top Ten regularly in FB and MBB, we by gosh should be too!

    RIP orangehorn Eddie Knight: 8/5/1942 - 12/12/2010

    theknighttrain

  • Hornographer said...

    Scipio Texas has a pretty good write up on this topic where he tries to put things in perspective.

    Thanks for sharing. Great article and really good conversation about it.

    NYHorn

  • So I decided to take a look at the statistics on kenpom.com regarding Rick Barnes teams to see exactly what trends his teams have (kenpom has annual statistics going back to the 2003 Final Four team):

    - Tempo wise, we are usually a little bit slower than the average team. When you account for this, we have been a pretty good offensive team. This season was our worst adjusted offensive ranking at #31 in the country (out of 345).

    - The Kevin Durant team was our worst adjusted defensive ranking team at #62.

    - It appears our slower offense also helps limit turnovers as we've never finished outside the top 100 in TO%.

    - No surprise but we've always been a good offensive rebounding team (something that probably has helped maintain our good adjusted offensive ranking). Our worst ranking here was 57th, again the Kevin Durant 2007 team.

    - More often than not, Texas is a poor 2 point % shooting team. Our only 2 respectable teams on 2p shots were '06 (LaMarcus and PJ Tucker) and '10 (Pittman and James). I think this statistic shows why Cameron Ridley is such a crucial recruit for Texas basketball.

    - Finally a statistic that reflects the "Rick Barnes can't coach offense" mantra: we have always been a terrible assist % team. Our two best assist teams are not surprisingly the two best Texas basketball teams of the past decade, 2003 (220th) and 2006 (166th). The rest of the teams finished roughly in the high 200s ranking wise. Can anyone explain why a team led by TJ Ford still only finished 220th in assist %? (Note: This is an honest question, not an attack on Rick Barnes. All I can think is that our ball rotation and movement really is subpar)

    - Defensively, Texas always has a good to great effective FG% defense.

    - As a trade off for holding teams to a poor FG%, we have been very poor at forcing turnovers. This season was our best ever at 176th in the country.

    - We usually are one of the top shot blocking teams in the country. This season was 2nd worst to the 2003 team at 135th and 141st, respectively.

    Hornographer ●

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