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With his history, the rest of the season

Another Dancing With The Stars gig ?

28 games even if it stretches into next season.

I'm not entirely certain that punishment in this case should end with the league offices. There are on rare occasions incidents in sports that rise to the level at which I wonder whether there is a valid reason to not let the normal legal actions take place. The emotion of competition can't insulate all behavior from liability. Artest really pushed the limit of whether an act was merely outside the rules of the game or entirely outside the rules of civil and criminal law.

Had this incident happened at any nationally televised event other than a sporting event, the LA county prosecutors would have a charging instrument filed within a week.

No. At this point, it should be a lifetime suspension. Bierce is right. This should go beyond league discipline. He should be looking at criminal prosecution. This guy is a sociopath.

How close were you in relation to the brawl in the stands?

David Stern loves any opportunity where he can display his power. Stern has a serious "napoleon complex". I expect the suspension to be as large as his ego.

Standard NBA punishment for an elbow is 2 games. This one was pretty vicious, so let's say 4.

The "Metta" part is even more of a stretch. That is a Buddhist term that roughly translates to "Loving kindness," which is the caring for the well-being of another independent of any judgment of them and includes the practice of meditation to achieve a union of understanding with the other and ultimately resulting in finding true happiness in another's happiness.

I don't think that elbow was laid to Harden's head in an attempt to remove life's suffering from him.

Bierce,
I am with you. I think the last few years in sports (ok, maybe more than the last few years) have demonstrated that in many ways, maybe because of the money and pressure now involved in big time athletics, the rules of conduct are being stretched beyond any reasonable level of "what can be expected".

A lot of states have adopted laws that have "consent as a defense" to assault, and sports is one reason for such laws, but in those situations, you have to "assault in the way the other person consented to". (my words not some courts, but it is a good generalization)

That consent in sports is that you hit hard, but hit within the rules, and things that happen when you are clearly trying to be in the rules and something bad happens, well you did consent to this situation.

NOBODY in football consented ot what the Saints did with their bounty situation No one consented to the Saints intentionally going out to cripple them.

Sports is simply going to have to police itself or the real police will start doing it for them. I don't think that is crying wolf. I truly believe that, someday soon, when the next Brett Favre,playing in his home stadium, gets a knee blown up because somone clearly intentionally went out to break the rules and "do harm", some local police force is going to go after the offending player.

The bounty thing changed a lot of minds in this country toward this sort of thing. Maybe not for all die hard football fans, but for a lot of fans and DA's and cops.

So i hope the BB commish steps up and says they don't need the help of the police,this will STOP.
It is why i love what happened to the Saints and my two football teams are UT and the saints

On another level, Artest once again demonstrated that as a society we have lost the ability to genuinely apologize for bad behavior. His comment was something along the lines of "I'm sorry he (Harden) had to get hurt." He didn't "have" to get hurt. It wasn't a random, uncontrollable act of fate. It was a deliberate, premeditated action that could have reasonably been expected to inflict great bodily harm, and it did.

In response to the original question of the thread, my first reaction was: lethal injection.