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Go watch Pony Exce$$, that should tell you all you need to know.

Oh please.

Baylor is close to home for LOTS of quality Division 1 athletes that get missed by us, the Ags, and OU.

Texas is full of Baptist parents who want their kids to attend a religious institution.

The question for me is not why is Baylor successful, but why hasn't Baylor been more successful in the past 20 years.

I've asked my Baylor in-laws this same very question. (2 brother-in-laws and 2 sister in-laws who are very ready to remind me of their recent success!) Their impression is that there is an allure for many of the athletes parents that their child is going to a safe, faith based school. They have also alluded that there is lower academic requirements for athletes at Baylor compared to Texas, but I have not seen any proof of this.

Couln't agree more. People have to stop responding to our competion in derogatory terms. They are doing well because they made better hires than we did and the better hires are doing what really good people do. They work at the task and produce desirable results. Art Briles is an outstanding young Coach and he did well with the UH program before his move to Baylor. For instance, we did not think the Heisman trophy winner of the past season--soon to be #2 player taken in the NFL--was good enough to play QB for us. He, on the other hand, did. I think that says it all.

Another case in point, is we stopped doing the job after the NC class and the results became apparent in 2010; but anybody who was watching could see it coming from 2007 and 2008 years. We couldn't run the ball to save our lives. We also were making some very interesting chioces at RB. People we passed on became stars at our competitors. Our OL recruits were terribly weak. Don't blame the recruits blame the people that did the evaluation and also did the developing. We couldn't block Central Florida for crying out loud.

The DT was just as bad. It seems everything fell apart after the kid from El Paso,Andre, blew up. Instead of having four great DTs rotating we often really had one really good player and a couple of average players. Our LBing corps was also a patch work of interesting choices. Last years LBs and this years are the types that are drafted. How many LBs have made it to the next level in recent years. We have DEs. So things are better because we really have some great hires and they are doing what great hires do.

In BB, Baylor has done an outstanding job of recruiting players--see rivals over the last several years.They always seem to have a good mixture of blue chip and non blue chippers and have done an outstanding job of developing them.The leaders of this elite 8 squad are upperclassmen. When did we last have that? Don't be jealous of the performance of our competition, blame our own ineptness.Our inability to figure it out quickly enough to make changes when things are not going in the right direction. We are comfortable is why.

Not sure that those stating pony excess are far off with regards to mens basketball and football. While at Stephenville I believe there was an article about the things they were doing that were against the rules...steroids. People who feel faith based school is important to national top 100 basketball recruits need to quit drinking the coolaid. The fact of the matter is college basketball is dirty and the ncaa recognizes as their cash cow and will rarely get involved. All this rambling aside, briles and Drew were good hires.

Given Baylor's success, the real elephant in the room is Why hasn't A&M done better? What is so interesting is that both their fans and their administration essentually gave up on them having the ability to compete with Texas, thought they need an edge, and ran to the SEC.

You have to read between the lines to see this discouraged perspective, but it is evident in some of their quotes and statements about leaving for the SEC. But the recruits haven't see it that way yet. A&M still seems to be the preferred choice over Baylor. That might change in the next couple of years depending on Briles' ability to recover after RGIII.

We thought TCU was the repl;acement for A&M, but maybe it's Baylor that has stepped up to to that spot, with TCU taking their #3 spot.

I think Baylor having a president who wants the school to be successful in all areas of university life has helped them as much as anything.

You have NO idea what you're talking about. Baseless rhetoric.

In response to Old Tascosa, it's not the elephant in the room. It's pretty obvious that A&M made a poor hire in Fran and the wrong hire in Sherman. Sherman lost the team last year, but left the team in a MUCH better place than when Fran left.

Baylor has done well in Football with RGIII and the real test is going to be this year. Their D is atrocious and is something that really has to change if they want the past 2 years to not be an anomaly. Baylor has never been #3 in the state until the past year. Tech has been historically better as has TCU.

You must be off your feed. Took you all of 4 hours to sniff this out.

Hah. I don't live on these boards all the time and just saw this. I enjoy some discussion and I think the one regarding Baylor's recent upswing is a good one. It's just funny that somehow rhetoric about A&M finds its way into a good discussion.

Baylor doing well for a year or two isn't going to effect the state of recruiting in Texas. You guys having 1 really bad year didn't hurt you. This year is going to be key for them. Win 8-10 games and beat texas for the 3rd straight year and some momentum in recruiting will start to build. That will negatively effect A&M for sure.

Unfortunately (well, not unfortunately from my point of view), I think you guys are one hire too late from UH in the same way you were one hire too fast from TCU. And yes, I realize Fran was hired from Bama, but you get my drift. I don't think Sumlin is the same level of coach as Briles. I think the A&M program looks much different now if Briles had been selected over Sherman in '07.

I agree that it's too early to make definitive statements about Sumlin, but I do believe he'll be the next in the series of bought out aggie coaches in 3-4 years. At that point, I envision your new battle cry being the need to find a young, defensive-minded coach that can build an SEC defense. But I guess we'll see.