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What Roger Goodell just did...

  • should be exactly what the NCAA should do regarding coaches who willingly and purposely violate NCAA rules.

    If a coach in the NCAA is willingly cheating, then they should look to take that coach's livelihood away for a year.

    This should be IN ADDITION TO any penalties levied against the university.

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  • Yup. I'd bet every single NFL coach is on the phone with every assistant right now, making assurances that there is no bounty system in place on their team.

    Losing a couple of scholarships 7 years later will not keep any NCAA coach awake at night, especially if they can switch jobs at the drop of a hat and never face ANY consequence.

    Chuckie Finster ●

  • Chuckie Finster said...

    Yup. I'd bet every single NFL coach is on the phone with every assistant right now, making assurances that there is no bounty system in place on their team.

    Losing a couple of scholarships 7 years later will not keep any NCAA coach awake at night, especially if they can switch jobs at the drop of a hat and never face ANY consequence.

    I laugh at the penalties handed down to Ohio State and USC.

    5 scholarships a year on an 85-man limit is essentially a ~5.8% scholarship loss for cheating. Losing 5.8% to cheating is less risk than not cheating at all and losing because you don't have the players.

    It should be more like 20% or 17 scholarships a year AND the coach should be disallowed from coaching in NCAA for at least a year.

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  • i agree with you bobby but i doubt they ever will. what do you think will happen in/to the SEC for example?

    college athletics - football and basketball - is big time money. they will not risk it.

    PappyVanWinkle

  • BobbyBurton said...

    I laugh at the penalties handed down to Ohio State and USC.

    5 scholarships a year on an 85-man limit is essentially a ~5.8% scholarship loss for cheating. Losing 5.8% to cheating is less risk than not cheating at all and losing because you don't have the players.

    It should be more like 20% or 17 scholarships a year AND the coach should be disallowed from coaching in NCAA for at least a year.

    For the life of me, I can't understand how Ohio State thought that there was any way that Tressel would be able to keep coaching there. The guy willingly covered up an infraction (which is infraction no. 1), then signed an affidavit saying that he was aware of no infractions (which is infraction no. 2), then lied who knows how many times to cover up those first two infractions (which are infractions no. 3 through ?).

    And then when Gee was asked about the possibility of firing Tressel, he made a joke by saying "I just hope he doesn't fire me."

    I think OSU was trying to act like it was no big deal and then hoping that by them acting like that, everyone else would treat it as no big deal.

    Fortunately, Tressel was forced out, but agree that the school got off easy.

    UTDwayne159381

  • BobbyBurton said...

    I laugh at the penalties handed down to Ohio State and USC.

    5 scholarships a year on an 85-man limit is essentially a ~5.8% scholarship loss for cheating. Losing 5.8% to cheating is less risk than not cheating at all and losing because you don't have the players.

    It should be more like 20% or 17 scholarships a year AND the coach should be disallowed from coaching in NCAA for at least a year.

    also hit the school with no TV and bowl game for 2 years

    GoHorns 1

  • Until there is a 100 plus million dollar potential lawsuit looming like there is in the NFL there will be no change

    This post was edited by clacknasty on 3/21/2012 at 2:36 PM

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  • UT-Dwayne said...

    For the life of me, I can't understand how Ohio State thought that there was any way that Tressel would be able to keep coaching there. The guy willingly covered up an infraction (which is infraction no. 1), then signed an affidavit saying that he was aware of no infractions (which is infraction no. 2), then lied who knows how many times to cover up those first two infractions (which are infractions no. 3 through ?).

    And then when Gee was asked about the possibility of firing Tressel, he made a joke by saying "I just hope he doesn't fire me."

    I think OSU was trying to act like it was no big deal and then hoping that by them acting like that, everyone else would treat it as no big deal.

    Fortunately, Tressel was forced out, but agree that the school got off easy.

    I think Tressell was a given a 5 year without cause (ban) from NCAA

    GoHorns 1

  • GoHorns 1 said...

    also hit the school with no TV and bowl game for 2 years

    That's not hitting close enough to the competitive issue surrounding cheating.

    I would argue that no TV hurts the fanbase more than it hurts the actual team.

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  • clacknasty said...

    Until there is a 100 plus million dollar potential lawsuit looming like there is in the NFL there will be no change

    Exactly. This was done to send a message that they care about the saftey of the players. Which is total BS.

    Beast 512

  • Just me, but I'd prefer to keep the scholarships in place & take away the conf revenue share from the school...no TV &/or bowl $$$$ for that school once the revenue is allocated from the conf

    When schools are on probation, I believe they still receive annual payments based on the conference's TV revenue & total bowl revenue...not sure why UNC should receive $$$ from the ACC if FSU, Clemson, VT, etc all get invited to bowl games, yet UNC is on probation

    mcb0703

  • UT-Dwayne said...

    For the life of me, I can't understand how Ohio State thought that there was any way that Tressel would be able to keep coaching there. The guy willingly covered up an infraction (which is infraction no. 1), then signed an affidavit saying that he was aware of no infractions (which is infraction no. 2), then lied who knows how many times to cover up those first two infractions (which are infractions no. 3 through ?).

    And then when Gee was asked about the possibility of firing Tressel, he made a joke by saying "I just hope he doesn't fire me."

    I think OSU was trying to act like it was no big deal and then hoping that by them acting like that, everyone else would treat it as no big deal.

    Fortunately, Tressel was forced out, but agree that the school got off easy.

    Even funnier was the few tOSU fans I knew were adamant right up to the end the guy wouldn't be going anywhere and shouldn't be fired. very strange.

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  • PappyVanWinkle said...

    i agree with you bobby but i doubt they ever will. what do you think will happen in/to the SEC for example?

    college athletics - football and basketball - is big time money. they will not risk it.

    The SEC doesn't cheat. My Bama friend swears Saban is a Saint and isn't dirty. he also says he cares about the kids. What do I know

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    That's not hitting close enough to the competitive issue surrounding cheating.

    I would argue that no TV hurts the fanbase more than it hurts the actual team.

    True, but it's gotta hurt with recruiting. Plus the bowl ban hurts.

    Not saying it's enough, but it's more than a slap on the wrist, IMO

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  • It is quite sad that the only penalties in place hurt the kids more than the coaches involved....

    deronjohn

  • BobbyBurton said...

    should be exactly what the NCAA should do regarding coaches who willingly and purposely violate NCAA rules.

    If a coach in the NCAA is willingly cheating, then they should look to take that coach's livelihood away for a year.

    This should be IN ADDITION TO any penalties levied against the university.


    exactly right. it's not happening though. probably ever. they did it once in Dallas.

    sad, really.

    TexAus

  • BobbyBurton said...

    should be exactly what the NCAA should do regarding coaches who willingly and purposely violate NCAA rules.

    If a coach in the NCAA is willingly cheating, then they should look to take that coach's livelihood away for a year.

    This should be IN ADDITION TO any penalties levied against the university.

    Huge difference. Roger is a full grown man.

    The NCAA is still trying to grow a pair. (without much success)

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    should be exactly what the NCAA should do regarding coaches who willingly and purposely violate NCAA rules.

    If a coach in the NCAA is willingly cheating, then they should look to take that coach's livelihood away for a year.

    This should be IN ADDITION TO any penalties levied against the university.

    Its interesting that the NCAA has done this sort of thing with basketball coaches (Sampson, Pearl) but not football. I don't see any reason to make a distinction. For the NCAA, basketball is the money sport.

    texaztom

  • BobbyBurton said...

    I laugh at the penalties handed down to Ohio State and USC.

    5 scholarships a year on an 85-man limit is essentially a ~5.8% scholarship loss for cheating. Losing 5.8% to cheating is less risk than not cheating at all and losing because you don't have the players.

    It should be more like 20% or 17 scholarships a year AND the coach should be disallowed from coaching in NCAA for at least a year.

    NCAA doesn't have the stones for it.

    AllenHorn

  • GetHooked said...

    Huge difference. Roger is a full grown man.

    The NCAA is still trying to grow a pair. (without much success)

    Roger is a puppet who levy's punishment based on how much liability he or the NFL would have. I agree with this penalty but the only reason he made it was because of the potential legal rammafications of incidents. When Belichick was caught cheating the game he should have gotten a 1 year ban as well but Goddell bitched out on that one.

    RMoses158582

  • BobbyBurton said...

    That's not hitting close enough to the competitive issue surrounding cheating.

    I would argue that no TV hurts the fanbase more than it hurts the actual team.

    no TV or bowl games also means no MONEY

    GoHorns 1

  • clacknasty said...

    Until there is a 100 plus million dollar potential lawsuit looming like there is in the NFL there will be no change

    It would be interesting to know if the decision would have been different if the NFL was not facing all of those suits. Still, he hit this one out of the park. Not in my wildest dreams did I think he would do something like this.

    Bobby is right. If the NCAA would nail the coaches for breaking the rules, rather than just the school, things would change in a hurry.

    This post was edited by Crazy Horn on 3/21/2012 at 5:26 PM

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  • RMoses said...

    Roger is a puppet who levy's punishment based on how much liability he or the NFL would have. I agree with this penalty but the only reason he made it was because of the potential legal rammafications of incidents. When Belichick was caught cheating the game he should have gotten a 1 year ban as well but Goddell bitched out on that one.

    player safety wasn't a issue with Belichick cheating

    GoHorns 1

  • GoHorns 1 said...

    player safety wasn't a issue with Belichick cheating

    No, but only the integrity of every game and the entire league was at stake. Just as much iMO

    RMoses158582

  • I think it is a slippery slope personally. The game may soon turn into flag football. Bountys are stupid but every contract has incentives that could be misconstrued. Will the NFL see to it that the season ticket holders get their money back? Fans get screwed again, and Bree's is in the twilight of his career. Sad day for nfl football and may have been dealt with differently in my opinion. Lose your coach for a year is ridiculous.

    hornsrus

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