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Thoughts on the game - Iowa State

  • BobbyBurton said...

    Darius White is a worse route runner than John Chiles was a year ago. I'm not bagging on the kid because he's a freshman, but to expect him to have a significant impact is not reasonable at this stage.

    Then you simplify things for him. Tell him to run goes and stop routes.

    Line him up at the flex and tell him to run 2 yards inside the hash, and turn and look for the ball after 10-15 yards.

    It's not hard to do, except for this coaching staff. Who wants to run an offense that inside the program is too complicated, but to outside teams a simple cover 2 shuts it down.

    NLeininger

  • NLeininger said...

    Then you simplify things for him. Tell him to run goes and stop routes.

    Line him up at the flex and tell him to run 2 yards inside the hash, and turn and look for the ball after 10-15 yards.

    It's not hard to do, except for this coaching staff. Who wants to run an offense that inside the program is too complicated, but to outside teams a simple cover 2 shuts it down.

    And then you are overly predictable. You can't do that and expect any sort of success.

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  • Great assessment. I still stand by my statement, if we execute we win.

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    The defense, IMO, is playing well enough to win every game. So to me, that is better than mediocre. Maybe they are merely average or above average.

    My gauge for that would be to say with last year's offense, this team would be undefeated.

    Gilbert's play, and this offensive style, are lost. For everyone who thought they may have found an identity against Nebraska, it was a big letdown to see them come out in (still can not believe it) five wides and try to live on an underneath passing game.

    They out-smarted themselves.

    It is simply Davis going back to the one offense he trusts. If Mack and Will are serious about going to a pro style offense, a change is going to have to be made.
    That was a good OP Bobby. This offense has mediocre personnel, an inexperience QB and is completely devoid of leadership. Other than Acho, I'm not certain that the team has a single leader. That is two games in a row where we simply mailed in a game emotionally.

    gordosan

  • BobbyBurton said...

    Kirkendoll misunderstands his own talent and situations. For a senior, that is disappointing.

    For him to think he can take a step back and get away from two defenders to lose 1 yard and not gain an additional one is the difference between 2nd and 8 and 2nd and 6. Small difference but it's amplified on the very next series where he gets a pass, reverses field for a four-yard loss. Instead of 2nd and 7, it's 2nd and 14.

    He doesn't understand he's not very fast comparatively. He also doesn't seem to understand his role on those routes generally. It's not to take them to the house, it's to grind out yards.

    Like I said, just disappointing.

    Bobby, I think most of the receivers shy away from contact. In doing so, they surrender the forward momentum they have built up, and wind up leaving 2-3 yards on the field each play. Seems everyone thinks he can hit a "homerun" on any play, instead of taking what's there and lining up for the next play.

    By contrast, the ISU players seemed more inclined to finish each play, going forward even after initial contact witha defender.

    texaztom

  • texaztom said...

    Bobby, I think most of the receivers shy away from contact. In doing so, they surrender the forward momentum they have built up, and wind up leaving 2-3 yards on the field each play. Seems everyone thinks he can hit a "homerun" on any play, instead of taking what's there and lining up for the next play.

    By contrast, the ISU players seemed more inclined to finish each play, going forward even after initial contact witha defender.

    Agree.

    There are a few who finish things. Goodwin seems to. Williams seems to. Chiles and Kirk go sideways too much, although Chiles didn't yesterday which was improvement.

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  • Bobby, as big a mess as the offense and special teams have been, I think you are being a little too easy on the defense. While it may be true that last year's offense could have won every game this year, at some point you have to ask the defense to carry more than their fair share of the load. After all, Muschamp is highly touted for his defensive genius, and he is the highest paid (I think) assistant coach in the NCAA, as well as Head Coach designate. For the first time in awhile, Mack singled out the defense for harsh criticism during his post game remarks.

    Also, during all of 2009 (14 games) the defense allowed 13 touchdown drives of 60 yards or more. Six of those came against TT and atm. By contrast, in half the number of games (seven) so far in 2010, the defense has already allowed 10 touchdown drives of 60 yards or more. In 2009, only three opponents were allowed more than one TD drive of 60+ yards. In 2010, we already have three opponents with more than one 60+ yard TD drive, in only seven games.

    texaztom

  • BobbyBurton said...

    And then you are overly predictable. You can't do that and expect any sort of success.

    Our offense especially our WR routes are already overly predictable. And I can't fault any of the WRs for attempting to make plays after the catch, after having to run the same boring routes they can't get open off of all game long, and in the event they can get open the ball isn't thrown on time or isn't catchable.

    neverwenttout

  • neverwenttout said...

    Our offense especially our WR routes are already overly predictable. And I can't fault any of the WRs for attempting to make plays after the catch, after having to run the same boring routes they can't get open off of all game long, and in the event they can get open the ball isn't thrown on time or isn't catchable.

    If the WR's run poor or incorrect routes (which they do virtually every play), don't block down field, & take a short 3 yard pass & make it into a 4 yard loss, I gotta blame the WR's...there may be some coaching to these problems, but I'll bet good $$$, Kennedy, Davis, & Brown have made it clear what's needed from the WR group

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  • texaztom said...

    Bobby, as big a mess as the offense and special teams have been, I think you are being a little too easy on the defense. While it may be true that last year's offense could have won every game this year, at some point you have to ask the defense to carry more than their fair share of the load. After all, Muschamp is highly touted for his defensive genius, and he is the highest paid (I think) assistant coach in the NCAA, as well as Head Coach designate. For the first time in awhile, Mack singled out the defense for harsh criticism during his post game remarks.

    Also, during all of 2009 (14 games) the defense allowed 13 touchdown drives of 60 yards or more. Six of those came against TT and atm. By contrast, in half the number of games (seven) so far in 2010, the defense has already allowed 10 touchdown drives of 60 yards or more. In 2009, only three opponents were allowed more than one TD drive of 60+ yards. In 2010, we already have three opponents with more than one 60+ yard TD drive, in only seven games.

    Not meaning to be easy on the D, just that one side of the equation is under-performing and the other is off its wheels.

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  • mcb0703 said...

    If the WR's run poor or incorrect routes (which they do virtually every play), don't block down field, & take a short 3 yard pass & make it into a 4 yard loss, I gotta blame the WR's...there may be some coaching to these problems, but I'll bet good $$$, Kennedy, Davis, & Brown have made it clear what's needed from the WR group

    Telling this group of WR's is not going to do them any good. You have to coach them and show them. That's the problem. You didn't have to tell Jordon Shipley or Quan Crosby they knew what to do. Jordon was at UT for 6 years and Quan was already a grown man when he came to UT. Big difference.

    This post was edited by Johnny Walker on 10/25/2010 at 10:12 AM

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  • Johnny Walker said...

    Telling this group of WR's is not going to do them any good. You have to coach them and show them. That's the problem. You didn't have to tell Jordon Shipley or Quan Crosby they knew what to do. Jordon was at UT for 6 years and Quan was already a grown man when he came to UT. Big difference.

    Oh I agree completely with your statement...my concern is having Kirkendoll, Chiles, or MW make some of the same mistakes as Davis or White...MW's getting better & continues to show his talent level with the TD catch he made against ISU...but where's Chiles been for the last few weeks? I see him start games, but then just vanish...he played well against ISU, but he should've been GG's go to target from the beginning...one area of concern from most on this site is the lack of leadership on this team...why isn't John Chiles the overwhelming leader on offense? He's a former QB & understands the importance of leadership, why can't he be THE GUY on offense? IMHO, Chiles should be as emotional on every offensive play as S Acho shows on defense...& I don't see anything close to that from Chiles

    Kirkendoll showed his inability to block on several occasions against ISU...sorry, but that's a 4 year player & 3 year starter (I think 3 years)...if he's not a good blocker by now, that's on him...by the time Quan, Shipley, N Jones, B Pittman, & others were JR's & SR's, they knew the correct way to run routes, when to make cuts, able to block down field, and not have crucial drops...I agree on blaming the coaching on the poor WR development, but sometimes players have to look in the mirror as well

    This post was edited by mcb0703 on 10/25/2010 at 10:28 AM

    mcb0703 ●

  • The fact that DeSean Hales and DJ Monroe don't see the field every play is criminal.

    Again, MB and GD come out and say "We need to find ways to get DJ the ball more". YOU THINK? IT IS ONLY 8 WEEKS INTO THE SEASON

    The staff is resting on their laurels. And I'm starting to see Mr. February again, and it makes me sick.

    Also, please don't compare Simms to GG, because Simms was a lot better than GG as of now.

    neonmoon

  • Hales gives you a tad more versatility.

    Did Texas run any reverses against ISU?

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  • Gerry Hamilton said...

    Hales needs to be the guy on the reverses. He and Mike Davis are the two best make you miss WR's on the roster.

    For me, more Monroe, Hales and Mike Davis on the field together and Darius White on punt returns.

    This personnel grouping has about as much chance of getting on the field together as I do of wrangling a personal orgy with Angelina Jolie, Brooklyn Decker, and Allison Brie.

    Actually, less of a chance. I'm not that bad looking.

    Sydney Carton

  • Gerry, if you are teasing me, I'm not going to invite you to Bingo.

    Sydney Carton

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