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Thoughts on Suddes and the move

  • Guys,

    I've spent the last few weeks and even months discussing this topic.

    I've also spent a considerable amount of time discussing the position with various people within the college football industry, that means some of the best and brightest doing this very thing today at other institutions.

    I've also discussed this topic with members of the Texas athletic department.

    Texas is moving into a new realm on many levels with this hire.

    *****

    Here's what I am told that Texas wants from the position - the order is irrelevant because they want it all:

    * Early identification of recruits; thorough evaluation of recruits across multiple recruiting classes

    * Improved camps; both attendance of recruits across various classes and increased value obtained from them

    * Improved communication tools used by coaches with recruits (think Skype/FaceTime)

    *****

    I am also told that you can expect Texas to have different people responsible for different aspects of the recruiting/camp program and some of them will roll up to the director of player personnel.

    *****

    Here's the bottom line:

    I think Mack Brown made the first right move today. He's got it started.

    Now, how does he keep it going, who does he add to his staff that helps with identification, what about camps and how does the personnel director integrate successfully with his coaching staff? Those are key questions that remain to be answered.

    *****

    I am told multiple members of the staff discussed this hire with Brown and that Brown and the staff came to a consensus on what they wanted out of the position.

    Again, this is the start. I think the Horns took a step forward today.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by BobbyBurton on 3/7/2013 at 4:18 PM

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    BobbyBurton

  • From someone in the know, this pleases me.

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    Bandit18 ●

  • Bobby - do you expect Mack to bring others from outside of the state, or start filling the staff with in-state connections? Meaning, do you see somebody from AZ or Cali on the staff that may have connections out west?

    & then possibly someone to cover each of HOU, DFW, West Texas, etc?

    mcb0703 ●

  • Per his bio he seemed to be much more involved in operations than evaluation.

    Will future hires be geared more towards talent evaluations?

    PDX Horn

  • Good by me. Starts with organization.

    Herkie

  • BobbyBurton said...

    Guys,

    I've spent the last few weeks and even months discussing this topic.

    I've also spent a considerable amount of time discussing the position with various people within the college football industry, that means some of the best and brightest doing this very thing today at other institutions.

    I've also discussed this topic with members of the Texas athletic department.

    Texas is moving into a new realm on many levels with this hire.

    *****

    Here's what I am told that Texas wants from the position - the order is irrelevant because they want it all:

    * Early identification of recruits; thorough evaluation of recruits across multiple recruiting classes

    * Improved camps; both attendance of recruits across various classes and increased value obtained from them

    * Improved communication tools used by coaches with recruits (think Skype/FaceTime)

    *****

    I am also told that you can expect Texas to have different people responsible for different aspects of the recruiting/camp program and some of them will roll up to the director of player personnel.

    *****

    Here's the bottom line:

    I think Mack Brown made the first right move today. He's got it started.

    Now, how does he keep it going, who does he add to his staff that helps with identification, what about camps and how does the personnel director integrate successfully with his coaching staff? Those are key questions that remain to be answered.

    *****

    I am told multiple members of the staff discussed this hire with Brown and that Brown and the staff came to a consensus on what they wanted out of the position.

    Again, this is the start. I think the Horns took a step forward today.

    well said bobby. this is a home run hire. all about moving the cart forward and today we did that.

    Sancho

  • mcb0703 said...

    Bobby - do you expect Mack to bring others from outside of the state, or start filling the staff with in-state connections? Meaning, do you see somebody from AZ or Cali on the staff that may have connections out west?

    & then possibly someone to cover each of HOU, DFW, West Texas, etc?

    I could see it a number of ways. But I absolutely think there will be a hire with strong connections in the state.

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  • PDX Horn said...

    Per his bio he seemed to be much more involved in operations than evaluation.

    Will future hires be geared more towards talent evaluations?

    I think there will be hires, graduate assistants, etc., who will perform all of the above.

    This guy isn't a one-man gang. The job is too big for one person all alone and I think as the coaching staff got deeper into it, they realized that.

    Suddes is just the start.

    This post was edited by BobbyBurton on 3/7/2013 at 4:33 PM

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  • Hopefully this will be the start of positive recruiting momentum !

    velnias2011 ●

  • in part of the press release Suddes alluding to building a staff and adding people to the department. So I think they have already started looking at adding members to this staff and aren't just going to stand pat with hiring the Director.

    dhunt06 ●

  • velnias2011 said...

    Hopefully this will be the start of positive recruiting momentum !

    what? Are you expecting commitments because of this hire?

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    Silky Johnson

  • BobbyBurton said...

    I could see it a number of ways. But I absolutely think there will be a hire with strong connections in the state.

    May well be one or two high profile high school coaches in these hires.

    Bevo11 ●

  • Bevo11 said...

    May well be one or two high profile high school coaches in these hires.

    Concur.

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    Concur.

    I think this is where you make a Bob Shipley hire

    dhunt06 ●

  • Bobby, will these new hires' input for a given recruit cease once the LOI is signed or will they also play a role in player development? I still feel that Texas has had good luck bringing in quality talent but has not been as successful in the player development. We need to fill this gap.

    Fcbib

  • BobbyBurton said...

    Concur.

    Can you imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if you floated Bob Shipley as a candidate for a position on the UT staff? It would make the Claude Mathis ordeal look like a cold front to Shipley's Katrina.

    whoopspat

  • I hope he gets hazed if he had any involvement with the flip of a certain DT that will remain nameless. On a serious note I am loving the direction the staff is going. Hopefully brings forth sweet fruitage.

    driftwoodHorn

  • dhunt06 said...

    I think this is where you make a Bob Shipley hire

    Lolz missed this post

    whoopspat

  • So does Mack Brown influence policy still or does he let Patrick Suddes establish his own recruiting policy? How is this gonna work?

    TimmyLonghorn ●

  • Bevo11 said...

    May well be one or two high profile high school coaches in these hires.

    Claude Mathis please. I'd give Todd Dodge a look as well.

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    pepper11 ●

  • Are they gonna hire someone whos in charge of letting recruits know if they have an offer or not?

    Michael Knight ●

  • Fcbib said...

    Bobby, will these new hires' input for a given recruit cease once the LOI is signed or will they also play a role in player development? I still feel that Texas has had good luck bringing in quality talent but has not been as successful in the player development. We need to fill this gap.

    This is player personnel, not player development. Two different things. I'm sure it'll have some overlap, but not a ton.

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  • TimmyLonghorn said...

    So does Mack Brown influence policy still or does he let Patrick Suddes establish his own recruiting policy? How is this gonna work?

    The head coach doesn't just influence policy he sets it. However, Suddes will be responsible for helping Brown understand the environment and needs for the program.

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  • Michael Knight said...

    Are they gonna hire someone whos in charge of letting recruits know if they have an offer or not?

    +1

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