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PHLHorn said...
The brand will not be at risk because Wyoming, New Mexico, and Iowa state will not be available to the mainstream public. And Deloss knows this. John Q Texas fan will gripe a little but as long as ou, west Virginia, TCU, okie state, and Texas tech are on tv they will be satisfied in the end. And said fan will continue to fill up the athletic department coffers buying Texas merchandise.
As much as folks around here like to think they matter, in the grand scheme of things, there aren't enough people who care to rock the boat, in neither Belmont nor the offices of Twc, DirectTV, or Dish.
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VaHorn said...
Fortunately greater minds than yours are guiding this ship. All will be well, and I'll enjoy reading your increasingly shrill posts in the next few years. Keep hope alive!!
"I've heard some of our fans say, 'We were always an SEC school. We just didn't know it," athletic director Bill Byrne said.
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close to jumping said...
You go to the "let me tell you how stupid you are" defense too often and with the wrong people. It is a tactic you need to work on if you want to be more effective.
I don't have any shrill posts regarding the Longhorn Network. I was all for it, I think they're overplaying their hand, and I don't expect any success without a major change in strategy. I'll be happy if success comes anyway, and I am sure you and a lot of others will say "had it all along" and nod your head in approval as they quietly wipe and surreptitiously wipe their brow and breathe a sigh of relief. Fine by me, I'd just like to be able to see all of the games at this point.
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texaztom said...
You are as entitled to have an opinion and express it here as any of the rest of us. However, the gist of most of your posts on the LHN is that people who are far smarter and in control than any of us are taking care of things, and everything will be fine in the end.
However, there is no real support for that theory on this specific topic. Many of the people on this board are smart, experienced, accomplished, and sport UT degrees. I've negotiated my share of contracts, and I know all about finances. What I think happened is this: The concept of the LHN, as stated publicly, was to enhance the UT brand and to give greater exposure to athletes in non-revenue and Olympic sports. After all, every Texas football game and basketball game was already available to anybody who wanted badly enough to see them, either for free, on PPV, or as part of a package subscription. There was no need, and no way to greatly increase the exposure for these sports. They were maxed out.
ESPN officials walked in, sat down at the table, and said "We want to give you $300 million for the distribution and production rights to LHN." Plonsky, Dodds and Powers didn't hear anything after "$300 million." They completely forgot about exposure for non-revenue sports and athletes, didn't contemplate the possibility of losing exposure for revenue sports, and acted like they had better take the money before somebody at ESPN realized what a mistake they were making and withdrew the offer. They simply did not negotiate. They gave away all control over distribution, and assumed that ESPN could place the LHN anywhere they wanted it. Who knows, maybe that's what ESPN told them. At any rate, worried that they might not get to the bank before the drive-up window closed, they signed the contract and ran out of the room, thinking they had pulled the job of the century.
A year later, it's hard to think of one thing that the LHN has done to enhance the Texas brand. It is easy, however, to find examples of negative impact and negative public perception brought on by LHN. It's been used (conveniently) as an excuse to try to break up the Big 12; it's caused a national controversy about televising HS games and the perceived recruiting advantages associated therewith; and it has resulted in regular negative press about overestimating public appeal and overplaying a modest hand. None of that is good for Texas. If the idea is that we can spend 3-5 years digging a hole, and then 15 more to dig out, that seems myopic.
At any rate, I appreciate your opposing point of view, but wish you could offer more substantive support for that opinion than the continued exhortations to have faith in Dodds, Plonsky and Powers, simply because they have had success in other aspects of their jobs. I sincerely wish that you had inside information to share that there really is an actual strategy in play here, and that it will culminate in greater glory for Texas athletics. I'm just not seeing it so far.
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srr50 said...
The LHN deal has made Texas a (very) interested bystander while ESPN fights with Time Warner and Comcast over distribution and price. The fact that Deloss takes the brunt of the anger and phone calls is okay with ESPN -- that's why they paid Texas the big bucks.
I have no idea as to how long this fight will continue (Time Warner still refuses to carry the NFL Network) but I do know that Texas has a minority say in how to resolve the fight.
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close to jumping said...
This is a case of the beatings continuing until the morale improves. Adding 3 and then 4 games to a channel no one can watch is similar to simply not showing them. The idea that fans are so stupid that they're going to keep blaming the carriers and not the network and the program tells you how disconnected the administration is to reality. People are going to complain to the carriers ahead of game 1, bitch at UT and ESPN for game 2, and yawn during game 3 and watch other games. 2013 will be worse. They need to get a satellite deal done. They're actively working to destroy one of the greatest brands in sports if they add 3rd and 4th games.
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srr50 said...
Most folks seemed to have grasped essentially what has happened. For the first time Texas made a deal with somebody who was the bigger, badder SOB in the room.
$300 million is a nice round number, but for ESPN it is money they dug up under couch pillows.
ESPN's mantra has always been "Everything is available - for a price." They are scared to death about giving something away for free or below market value. They made the deal for the Longhorn Network because they are always on the look for future revenue streams. They understand that more and more people (especially the younger demo) are moving away from cable and satellite to other venues for watching TV (computers, I-pads, I-phones, etc.)
The key for ESPN is "TV everywhere." It's why every athletic venue on campus is wired for live streaming. Want to watch the baseball game on your I-phone? Sure, just as long as you are also paying a cable subscription.
They see the Longhorn Network as a prototype, something they hope to multiply in the future with other schools or conferences. The fight over pricing (40 cents per subscriber in the dominant markets AND on basic cable) is all they care about.
Sports programming, specifically live sports programming, is the holy grail since it seems to be the best available inventory that is DVR proof. And while the LHN (and others to follow) may not have all that many live events, if the programming is available on any and all mobile devices, there is a value to that for the niche market.
Hell, even Time Warner Cable understands the value of regional sports networks. They have gone into partnership with the Los Angeles Lakers over two RSN's (one in English and one in Spanish). They will be on air in October and they are busy selling them to other carriers in the region -- for a nice price.
The LHN deal has made Texas a (very) interested bystander while ESPN fights with Time Warner and Comcast over distribution and price. The fact that Deloss takes the brunt of the anger and phone calls is okay with ESPN -- that's why they paid Texas the big bucks.
I have no idea as to how long this fight will continue (Time Warner still refuses to carry the NFL Network) but I do know that Texas has a minority say in how to resolve the fight.
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PDX Horn said...
Even when the LHN is in wide distribution there should never be more than one directional school game on it.
Why would UT willingly want its game to broadcast on a channel that the casual football fan will not tune into and willingly lessen the ratings/potential audience.
It is asinine to even think of doing that. Casual fans are not going to tune into a school centric network IMO.
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