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Texas - Texas Tech Predictions

  • dorothy, we ain't in orangebloods anymore.

    Texas 28, Tech 17

    sleazy t

  • I don't know that I have ever seen predictions so all over the map. Interesting.

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  • Texas 27 Tech 16

    76-37-5

    ut755

  • I will say that GD's struggles generally come against good to elite defenses. Outside of the VY era, his offenses have significantly underperformed their opponent's average yards and points conceded (a very relevant consideration for the Nebraska game)

    Tech's defense is not good and may not even be average

    alincoln

  • alincoln said...

    I will say that GD's struggles generally come against good to elite defenses. Outside of the VY era, his offenses have significantly underperformed their opponent's average yards and points conceded (a very relevant consideration for the Nebraska game)

    Tech's defense is not good and may not even be average

    Huh???

    You might want to check the stats again.

    In the past 4 years against the top D's on our schedule, GD's offense has OUTPERFORMED that metric 85% of the time (or there about). I'll have to re-created the data, had it saved but lost it when my hard drive crashed.

    By "top" D, I am measuring just Top 30 (top 25% of CFB) in either scoring or total yards D.

    GD was 2 and a half for 3 last year vs Bama (significant) OU & Neb (close but still above not below on both yards and scoring, Neb came up short yards wise).

    1 of 1 in '08 ( tOSU )

    '07 he was 2 and a half of 3. Outscored OU's O but fell short on yards, outscored and outyarded TCU and Arizona St.

    '06 2 halves of 2. Yards but not points on tOSU, yards and points on OU but not yards.

    Holds up even if you include the pre-Vince years and the "logic" of ignoring the Vince years is just too weird to consider. An OC is penalitzed for coaching and developing good players?

    BTW, most offenses tend to perform worse against top flight D's.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by echeese262 on 9/17/2010 at 1:49 PM

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  • alincoln said...

    I will say that GD's struggles generally come against good to elite defenses. Outside of the VY era, his offenses have significantly underperformed their opponent's average yards and points conceded (a very relevant consideration for the Nebraska game)

    Tech's defense is not good and may not even be average

    Oh please. GD has saved the day plenty of times. 2008 OU, 2009 aggy. BTW 2009 Nebraska opponents averaged 10 ppg -- we scored 13. His production with a bad OLine is above average.

    Quarterback

  • 41-23

    Texas

    Ellie44

  • IMO Greg Davis is not the world's greatest play-caller and/or offensive coordinator. Only one person gets that title from me these days and he's a head coach in the NFL (Sean Payton IMO).

    But Davis is well above average by any metric you might use.

    That doesn't mean Texas shouldn't strive to be the best or that he shouldn't shoulder criticism at times.

    Just realize that when you start critiquing him, people should begin with the understanding that it's at a certain level, and that is not at a level of utter incompetence, which seems to be the case when people start writing about him unfortunately.

    I have always thought that if there was a problem with Davis at Texas, it was during the first 5-6 years, some of it legitimate based on the team's performance against Oklahoma, or really any team that could force Texas into being a one-dimensional team.

    Since 2005, I don't know how anyone can really complain about his body of work with a straight face.

    I think you can critique it and wish for better in certain aspects or certain games. But overall, his body of work from 2005 on has been outstanding.

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  • bat said...

    You can be positive about Texas and the direction of the program and still predict a loss. I am on the fence. This game could go either way. Right now, I'm thinking Tech's offense is a little further along than ours, and their pass rush is pretty tough against this offensive line.

    We could win a 10 point game on the strength of our defense and a few big plays, but I think we lose a close one, say 17-13 because we can't yet sustain drives.

    I agree with the comment about being positive of the direction of the program yet predict a loss. I just have a hard time believing they both won't score in the 20s somehow.

    I also agree that their O is further along than Texas' and that their D - particularly their pass rush and their secondary - is better than some give them credit for.

    I still think Texas is a good match-up here IF they can establish anything in the running game.

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  • Quarterback said...

    Oh please. GD has saved the day plenty of times. 2008 OU, 2009 aggy. BTW 2009 Nebraska opponents averaged 10 ppg -- we scored 13. His production with a bad OLine is above average.

    WHOOSH

    2008 OU was ranked 68th in total defense
    2009 A&M was ranked 105th in total defense

    Our success offensively against those teams underscores my point

    2009 NU gave up an average of 272 yards per game. We gained 202. Our ability to exceed their PPG average resulted from our defense only giving up 106 yards in the entire game. Texas gained both the fewest total yards and fewest yards per play allowed by Nebraska all season.

    The Texas offense also similarly underperfomed OU's average YPG and YPP in 2009.

    Tech's defense appears to be average at best though

    alincoln

  • 35-28 good guys. Need a ST or defensive TD (or both) to do it, though. Hooke Em!

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    James Westfall

  • 31-20 Texas

    Mike Davis is the key.

    MBarnett

  • alincoln said...

    WHOOSH

    2008 OU was ranked 68th in total defense
    2009 A&M was ranked 105th in total defense

    Our success offensively against those teams underscores my point

    2009 NU gave up an average of 272 yards per game. We gained 202. Our ability to exceed their PPG average resulted from our defense only giving up 106 yards in the entire game. Texas gained both the fewest total yards and fewest yards per play allowed by Nebraska all season.

    The Texas offense also similarly underperfomed OU's average YPG and YPP in 2009.

    Tech's defense appears to be average at best though

    Again HUH?

    Not to belabor this too much but your original claim was that TeXAS' Offense has "significantly" underperformed vs good to great D's consistently.

    Neither 2008 OU or Aggie '09 "underscores" your point, in fact they don't have anything to do with it. As you point out, neither was a good to great D.

    While we only gained 2/3rds of the yardage Neb normally allowed (underperformance), we were 3 yards off OU's average (statisitcally the equivelent of a tie) so those two are hardly similar . We also had the best rushing day against OU of any team during the regular season vs OU and we did outscore their season average.

    Of the two, points scored (or not scored) is a far more important stat.

    So basically in the past 4 years, there is in fact only 1 game you can point to where a TEXAS O "significantly" underperformed the D in either catagory. OTOH, with NO exceptions, TEXAS O outperformed their opponents either scoring or yardage average, most often both when both catagories are considered.

    Sorry, again not to belabor this but while it's fun to discuss 10 foot alligators in NYC sewers, saquash or Elvis being alive and other urban legends, it's not reality.

    And I'm not sure TT's D is as bad as you think. With Tubby there, wouldn't be suprised if they aren't one of the Top 5-6 (edited based on Bobby's comments) we see durng the regular season.

    This post was edited by echeese262 on 9/17/2010 at 2:21 PM

    echeese262

  • I think this game comes down to turnovers. Win the turnover battle and we win. Lose it... We are in trouble!

    I predict we do win the turnover battle 2-1.

    Texas 27

    Tech 20

    Hook-em!

    texas4ever

  • There's a lot of late rumblings from "insiders" thet Texas is going to open up a can of whoop ass, particularly on defense.

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  • Texas 58
    Tech 3

    DJK

  • papa horn said...

    There's a lot of late rumblings from "insiders" thet Texas is going to open up a can of whoop ass, particularly on defense.

    As much heat as GD takes for being vanilla, we haven't seen much more than straight up D from the other side, no stunting and few blitzes.

    Expect the 2 CB blitzes where Williams and someone else missed great chances to make highlight plays. Wager they don't miss again.

    sticking with the idea we handle them fairly well unless we lose the turnover battle by 2 or more. In that case, I'll settle for a 1 point win.

    echeese262

  • mcb0703 said...

    This feels like a flat, high-penalty, some-what high-mistake game...one area that should not be overlooked...Mack has 130 wins @ Texas...when Texas out-rushes its opponent, Mack has 108 wins

    & I'm not sure TTU has the OL needed to stop the Texas DL or Muschamp blitzing packages

    Texas 24 - TTU 13

    Here's your winner for the Tech game missing by only 1 point

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