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NLeininger said...
Complete BS. Barnes can draw up plays, like the out of bounds play that lead to an easy layup for McClellan. Most in bound plays lead to a wide open shot for the guy he wants to take them. Like the 3 pointer that Holmes got against WVU or the 3 pointer he got yesterday against KU, both after TOs.
Sometimes the players don't execute it correctly, like the play yesterday late in the game where a bad pass from Feliz negated what would have been an easy layup for McClellan.
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Hoop98 said...
lol, he is absolutely terrible at getting his team a good look coming out of a TO and citing two examples is not proof otherwise.
Also, the guy's been here since 1998, those are his players and if they are incapable of executing the play that he draws up then he either needs to (a) draw up something that they can execute and/or (b) find players that can execute the play.
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Hoop98 said...
lol, he is absolutely terrible at getting his team a good look coming out of a TO and citing two examples is not proof otherwise.
Also, the guy's been here since 1998, those are his players and if they are incapable of executing the play that he draws up then he either needs to (a) draw up something that they can execute and/or (b) find players that can execute the play.
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NYHorn said...
Do we have enough schollies to make that happen? I didn't think we did. With a roster of: PG: Kabongo, Felix, Taylor SG: Lewis, Holland SF: McClellan, Frazier, Papapetrou PF: Randle, Holmes, Lammert, Bond C: Ridley, Ibeh
That would be 14 scholarship players and I thought you are only allowed 13? Unless someone like Bond were to transfer, which would be possible if Randle were to commit....
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Bob in Houston said...
I'm not saying Barnes is a great play caller, because he's not, but sometimes I would suggest that you watch other teams try to do things. When they lack experience, they don't look any better than this team.
I don't know what Barnes being in Austin for 15 years has to do with teaching a teamful of inexperience to do the right thing in a half-season. You dumb it down too much and its easy to stop.
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GQ031 said...
Yeah, one would have to leave. But if the above occurred the 2 most likely candidates would be Holland & Bond & I don't see how Bond plays at all next year if Randle came aboard. When you add that to the fact that he's from the northeast & that he'd be a junior, it makes him the most likely candidate.
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NYHorn said...
Yeah. Bond's asset was that he was a great rebounder, especially offensively. But Holmes has proved to be just as effective on the glass and he's able to be an offensive threat. So as of now Bond is just used when there's foul trouble because Lammert is more effective offensively and he's, for the most part, held his own on the glass.
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texaztom said...
Why, when evaluating our teams in all sports, do people insist on discounting the results produced by our best players. If you take away some of the best players ever from any team, they would have trouble. It is players like that who close out games.
Esentially, you are saying that Coach Barnes, given a bunch of mediocre to average players, would produce mediocre to average results. Given better players, he produces better results. Given a national player of the year (Ford) coupled with five other guys that had been playing together for three years, he went to a Final Four. Coaching isn't magic. It's getting your players to play to their ability.
Would it be fair to say that, without Durant and Westbrook, OKC wouldn't be the hottest team in the NBA? Does that mean that their coach isn't really very good?
The best thing about the current Texas roster is that every player shows some talent. They lack experience and a floor leader. Only time and a coach who continues to push them to be better will cure that situation.
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Goo said...
Of course they come from the players! The players, while on offense make turnovers, NOT while they're on defense. The offense is the problem, or at least the bigger problem - IMO. Not long ago we led the country in defensive FG percentage and block shots; sounds like we played pretty good defense. Although I know there is more to it than just FG percentage.
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Hoop98 said...
My point was that this has been a problem throughout his tenure here and that our youth should not absolve him of criticism since he was the one responsible for putting us into a situation where we're relying on extremely inexperienced players that are 3-4 year guys and not elite talents.
It sucks that we lost Myck, but most coaches seem able to handle their rosters well enough where they don't end up with the least experienced team in D1.
Fact of the matter is that the results over the past 4-5 seasons do not match what the man is being paid and the kind of success of a program of our stature should expect. Regardless of the mechanisms by which those facts came into being, the buck stops with him.
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GPie said...
Boston College has one senior and one junior on the roster. Neither start, the senior averages 12 mins. Yet they've managed a conference win in the ACC. That took me 5 mins, I'm sure I could find more if I wanted to, especially if I wanted to go back through the years.
In a world with early entrants, having young teams with little to no upperclassmen is quite common.
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Something that's becoming clear with Barnes' teams