Horns247 Board

We already started hashing this out but I'm sure there are still a bunch here who have yet to chime in or complete their case.

It appears to me the NCAA is a day late and dollar short in terms of being able to take action, even if they had jurisdiction into this matter, which they do not. Irrespective of statute of limitations they missed the window a decade ago. Better to stay focused on recruiting infractions and impermissible benefits.

The NCAA would have to make a rule to apply, and apply it retroactively. Not a good plan.

It's an easy call to say the NCAA should crack down on this, but when it begins looking into non-sports matters, it has to look in to all of them. For example, I don't want UT penalized in sports for what Cleve Bryant did. And that's just the beginning. They'd have the ability to review every parking ticket, every assault, every alcohol-related arrest.

This is for the courts. People who dropped the ball are going on trial. The school will pay millions in damages. Penn State isn't getting away with anything because the football team gets to play.

I think it could fall under lack of institutional control. The fact that the perv used the football program as a means to facilitate his crimes is the big deal here. If he had done the stuff off campus even it might not be so bad. But the simple fact that this was going on for YEARS on the Penn State campus while using the football facilities with the coach and administration all knowing about it... well I don't see how that doesn't fall under lack of institutional control.

If Sandusky had gone off on his own time and done everything he did off campus while NOT using the program to lure in victims it wouldn't be any of the NCAA's business, but that's clearly not what occurred. On campus and everyone knew about it. NCAA punishment or not, all of those people should rot in hell.

I agree. No student athletes involved, no NCAA. The fallout, lawsuits, and criminal charges for PSU will go on forever. Those involved will publicly and probably financially ruined before this is all over. Let the football program try to go on !!!!!!

Here's a post from another board that also succinctly sums up the way I feel.

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Penn State and its head coach, president, and other admins directly covered up criminal activity of the worst kind which happened in their football facilities in order to protect the image and name of Penn State. This was done to help the football program as they knew the info getting out would hurt recruiting and donations to the school. Thus, their actions fall directly in line with lying in order to not have a competitive disadvantage in football and, in turn, the cover up of child rape could be considered in terms of gaining a competitive advantage.

The NCAA should have the ability to be all over this and if they can't it is a joke. The criminal and civil parts will play out in the courts but Penn State should burn from NCAA sanctions as people directly involved with running the program let these crimes go on in order to save their recruiting and football program's image. I mean come on, they let kid's be raped by a predator for years instead of risking any harm to Penn State football. How in the hell could this ever be considered not punishable?

Yes they did or else Joe Paterno wouldn't have worked to cover it up. Rather than expose a child rapist and risk the perception of the football program and university they covered it up and let more kids get raped.

We're talking about the NCAA here...should they get involved? Yes, & they should issue a 1-year death penalty to PSU

It's taken the NCAA about 50 years to come up with a 4-team playoff...if it's taken that long for a simple playoff plan, anybody really have any hope they'll know how to handle the Penn St mess?

What exactly is a 1 year death penalty?

That's a huge stretch. They covered it up to protect the University image and protect a friend. That doesn't mean they were committing other violations in relation to football too. If the NCAA can't find any evidence of football violations they shouldn't assume there were some just because they covered up a whole different crime.

To me, the perpetrators are either indicted, convicted, or dead. No need to punish the kids and coaches there now who had nothing to do with it.

Exactly. Failure to monitor? Perhaps a failure to monitor criminal activity, which is why this is a matter for the courts rather than for the NCAA. It doesn't involve the university's handling of student-athletes so it isn't an NCAA issue. People should go to jail for what happened, and apparently some of them will. That doesn't make it an NCAA issue any more than the various criminal activities of some of our football players a few years back was an NCAA issue.

My apologies, Hookem89, I was referring to my own reading of an article when I said "Ambiguous source. Possibly misread it." That's why I withdrew my comment.

I had linked to a similar article, but it did not make clear whether Pegula's huge donation for the hockey arena was accounted to the most recent fiscal year or to 2010-11.