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And Baylor is under NO contractual obligation to honor some statement made in some stupid letter from Beebe. So even if you're assuming aTm is not contractually obligated to honor its pledge to the Big 12 last year, we're right back to aTm and Baylor both being contractually in the right, but weak sauce for both to renege on non-binding statements. aTm is in no position to claim the moral high ground.

The second? Come on man, that timeline is pretty weak. This whole thing didn't start back up until this summer. Why would we start talking to the SEC "the second" after agreeing to stay in the Big XII when there were serious opportunities to bolt last summer?

This whole thing was a process. Regardless of how the LHN went down, that was a large impetus for us to pick back up negotiations. Unfair advantage or not our administration made a decision to move on. Was some gentlemens agreement violated when A&M decided to jump ship? Any AD with half a brain would get out from under that. I know that Texas is much more of a national brand than A&M. We don't appeal to the masses the way you guys do. So trying to compete on that level is impossible. I'm ok with that. Why do you think OU is starting to look around instead of hanging tight with you guys?

Didn't Bryne or Silve say in a public statement that they had been in discussions since January? I can't remember exactly... anyone recall?

They said they've spoken, but not regarding anything specifically. Everything I've seen said the overtures to leave began in July and originated from A&M.

I'd love to see a link to that. What are you calling talks?

Yes. It says that the members are locked in to rolling 5-year commitment periods and must give notice 2 years before the end of such a term. The current one started July 1, 2011. A&M would be violating the notice provision and commitment provision by leaving one year from now.

Haha I'm not going to waste my time researching this for you. It's been stated in various places. I've heard that there's this really cool website called google where you can search for stuff on the internet. Give it a shot.

Your denial and (unsuccessful) attempts to try and paint A&M in some innocent/noble light, are hilarious. Keep trying though. Can't beat free entertainment.

a&m leaving the conference and the interference by the SEC are two different things. Baylor cannot sue a&m for leaving the conference due to the "out clause," however, if a&m elected to leave the conference because the SEC came calling, there can still be a claim of interference.

Notice, tortious interference does not contain the phrase "breach of contract" at all...I believe you are stating that since a&m did not breach its contract with the BIG12 there cannot be an interference claim against the SEC. Additionally, if the SEC initiated the "contingent" notice, another argument could arise.

I am not saying Baylor has a valid argument at all, but the threat of litigation, and the cost for the SEC to defend the suit is enough to stop them from jumping straight into bed with a&m. The cost of litigation this mess could be more than the additional money the SEC expects to get in its new TV contract.

Glad I can help you out. It's funny how you read all this stuff, but don't know where it was said. I try not to say things I can't back up. Your profs at texas let you turn stuff in without citing it? I would expect more from a top notch institution. You made the statement, but you won't back it up. You want so bad for us to have done something immoral in all this when we're following the guidelines of the contract.

There are penalties for breach of contract written into most contracts. If we're using that to our advantage where is this horrible thing that's happened.

Haha, this is an internet message board. I didn't know I was required to submit a works cited page.

Here's an excerpt from one of Chip Brown's articles a month or 2 ago. I'm sure that there are a lot more. Took me all of about 10 seconds to find:

"Sources say the Aggies' nine-member regents board is leaning toward leaving the Big 12 and are being fueled by a lack of confidence in the current configuration of the league - i.e. the relationship between Texas and ESPN (the Longhorn Network) and how it could negatively impact the rest of the members.

There's growing concern in the Big 12 that A&M is already well down the road toward joining the SEC.

According to multiple sources close to the situation, Aggies' president Bowen Loftin met with SEC officials prior to an Aug. 1 meeting among Big 12 athletic directors in Dallas to discuss how to co-exist with Texas and its Longhorn Network (LHN).

Loftin apparently aired A&M's grievances against LHN to SEC officials during the meeting. Cook said he wasn't aware of any such meeting.

"I think this is pretty far along," one administrator at a Big 12 school said of A&M's courtship with the SEC.

One of A&M's concerns - LHN airing high school games - was eliminated on Thursday when the NCAA ruled no high school games would be allowed to be shown on school or conference networks.

But it didn't appear the NCAA's ruling would have much bearing on A&M's momentum toward the SEC, sources said.

The SEC has been eerily quiet about all the speculation surrounding Texas A&M. But sources said SEC commissioner Mike Slive and Texas A&M president Bowen Loftin have formed a relationship since Slive visited College Station last June during the Big 12 Missile Crisis."

Apparently it's now being reported that Baylor is giving reassurances it's not going to sue. I see what you're saying though. Any conversation A&M had with the SEC prior to leaving the Big XII could be construed as interference with the contract since we will end up in the SEC.

January? Never said anything about January.

That article states there's been a relationship there since last summer. There were meetings that occurred before A&M met with other Big XII officials. If you want to be naive and think that A&M has been completely aboveboard with everything, that's your prerogative.

Even if A&M didn't have a single talk with Slive about anything SEC related until this summer, as you state, A&M still made a 10 year commitment to the Big XII, only to back out a year later. As I've stated several times, I get the decision, and I don't have a problem with you backing out (that's the nature of the business), I just find it hilarious that you're calling out Baylor for an action that is similar to your own. It's hypocritical. And funny.

Been fun chatting.

That would make sense... what's in it for Baylor to fall in line? They just hasten their ascent into Conference USA, or worse.