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Someone really thought OU ran up the score? WOW, just WOW!

If OU plays Northern Iowa and leaves the starters in for 4 quarters then that is running up the score. When you are playing The University of Texas (most revenue in the country) it is not possible to run up the score. The Horns shouldn't ever get beat by its rival the way OU did on Saturday.

Second point you have to do what is best for YOUR team not the other teams on the schedule. Mack worries too much about people say about him and forgets to do what is best for his players. If you think your offense needs working together or conditioning then they play for 4 quarters and the score and press be damned. For me Mack's decision not play a backup QB with meaningful reps (run the offense) all season in 2010, even when the scores of most games were out of hand, contributed greatly to the loss to Bama in the BCS Championship Game.

Last point............Coach Royal put it very well one time when he beat TCU by 60+ points. He told the press after the game he played 3rd and 4th stringers the entire 2nd half. In addition Coach Royal said that he was not about to tell the 3rd and 4th teams no to score or try to score because they had mothers and girlfriends just like the first team.

I remember in 2008 when we all thought how silly it was for Stoops to think that scoring 60 points a game against the likes of Tech and OSU would make anybody forget that Texas beat OU head to head. Turns out, it worked.

You kind of provide your own counter-argument here, as it was his 1s and 2s (mostly 1s) in there at the end throwing deep on a 4th down play, and trying to keep our 2nd and 3rd teamers out of the endzone. (Our QB may have been a co-starter, but we really only go 2 deep there.)

I'll be very honest and tell you that if Jones gets his knee rolled up on that last 4th down pass, I would think it was just desserts.

I agree with all your points. It is frustrating to me that in the past when we played a backup QB with backups Texas would either run it three times then punt or run it the first two times then pass it on a 3 and 8. That happened to Gilbert in 2009 and happened to McCoy last year. Essentially Gilbert was no better than a redshirt freshmen last year and the same for McCoy this year. Also they let off the pedal in the 2nd half when they should have had Ash and McCoy working on the passing game instead of going conservative.

A fictional man wiser than me once said, "it's not worth winning if you can't win big."

I thought when Stoops threw the ball into the endzone on a 4th down in the 4Q was a bit much, but at that point, I was so furious with my own team that it didn't really register with me all that much.

In any case, my feeling on this, especially regarding a rivalry game is this: don't like it? stop them. Besides, it's still more dignified than getting a knee taken on us.

Sun-Tzu would have been proud of Stoop's approach to the game of football. Running up the score not only elevate your status in the BCS, but also instill a unique psyche/fear to your biggest rival, as well as all other opponents playing blowU. I think that when you look at both coaches, one understands how to maximize the system to the team's advantage, and is thereby, result-driven. The other coach, is more of a PC/public image oriented approach to this game, which ultimately, should be result driven.

Stoops is not the only one with the philosophy of running up the score: See Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, Mike Gundy, Mike Leach (when he used to coach), Chip Kelley, Pete Carrol (when he coached college football) just to name a few.

Seven conference championships says Stoopie is handling things correctly

BAM! You nailed it. One wants to politic, one wants to win. It's the defenses job to stop the scoring. Maybe if our coaches spent more time on game planning (geez should I give these receivers a 7-8 yard cushion, or jam them at the line occasionally) then crying about how young our players are, the score wouldn't have gotten "run up". Running up the score and stats are usually only talked about by the losing team.

It also can help your recruiting. Kids also want to play for winners. Running up the score especially against your rivalries gives the expression that your team is stronger and a better team to play for. Young kids notice that.