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Obama: Change coming to reduce violence in football

  • BigD4UT said...

    VaHorn, I'm sorry you feel that way. I saw the article and was curious to see how others felt about it. I know a lot's been made of the rule changes that have already been put in place and I wanted to hear what others thought about the possibility of more coming. I had reservations about sharing the article and posting any type of comments because of the passionate feelings people have when it comes to the president and how divisive we've become, but I was really hoping for the best and that a discussion with thoughts about safer equipment and additional rules could take place. You stated it's one of the worst threads as did Aristotle in the next post, again I'm sorry you guys feel that way, but I'd really like to hear why you think this thread topic is so bad. I look forward to your positive response. :)

    Sorry, not the topic, the dialog. Obama seems to be a lightening rod and politics is never a great discussion for a football board. It is like Swoopes. Everyone has a strong opinion. Nothing that you did or could have prevented.

    VaHorn

  • He lost the right to comment on sports when he threw out the first pitch at the all star game. One of the worst throws I've ever seen a grown man make. It embarrassed me as I watched.

    Jaguar176715

  • BigD4UT said...

    I like a positive post and I would give you a positive vote, but I've reached my allotment of positive votes for today so I'll have to get you tomorrow. BTW...I respect the guys in the middle as much as I like seeing the girls on the sides. :)

    .... heck yeah on "guys in the middle"

    I just didn't even notice they were there til you mentioned em now

    and again, how's that for "positive?"

    florda_mike

  • Jaguar176715 said...

    He lost the right to comment on sports when he threw out the first pitch at the all star game. One of the worst throws I've ever seen a grown man make. It embarrassed me as I watched.

    ^^^^^ Humm, very interesting thought ...

    And that makes me wonder. Has anyone ever seen him play basketball that he makes out to be so good at? If he plays that like he throws a baseball, well, then he'd be what my son used to call a "poser" I believe very possibly in basketball??? Is that right younger guys?

    florda_mike

  • Aristotle said...

    Probably the worst thread topic and responses of my 2 years on this site.

    A cheap way for a couple of jackasses to get political where it doesn't belong and take shots at Obama. How is he supposed to respond, that he couldn't care less about violence in football?

    Like it or not, football is going to look a lot different in 10-20 years. If the brain injuries don't stop people aren't going to allow their kids to play.

    Certainly the worst response comment on a topic on this board ever.

    The miracle of football in America is that there are so few serious injuries in the game given the millions of hits that occur each season. There are risks with every human endeavor that must be measured against the benefits to the individuals and the society as a whole. A rational mind would conclude the the huge societal and cultural benefits of football far outweigh the very few serious injuries that occur. Would kids in poor schools be better off if politicians shut down football as a positive outlet for their development? Do we really want a society where our young men cower at the possibility of getting hurt playing football and then grow up to find themselves on the front lines fighting against the terrorists of their generations?

    Obama's response to football is all about molding America into his own pathetic image. He wants America to be like him. A nation of effeminate, socialist, pacifist, government dependent underachievers who are incapable of leading or creating economic value or high achievement in anything. Barack Obama is the poster child for mediocrity in all endeavors and all that is wrong with America today. He is nothing more than a crudely charismatic demigod whose only skill sets are self-serving mendacity and demagoguery. His legacy will be economic, fiscal and financial ruin for the very people who were dumb enough to elect him in the first place.

    Give him credit though. He is the master at exploiting ignorance and the worst instincts of humanity. He's also the only president in history who made things worse for his core constituencies and offered them no real hope for the future and still convinced them to vote for him a second time. The problem is that all you witless Obama voters are dragging all of us down with you through him.

    Yes, everything will be a lot different in 10-20 years because of Barack Obama and America will be an empty bankrupt shell of the great nation our founders created if he succeeds in implementing his agenda. Football participation will be the least of our issues and our collective brain damage will not allow our kids to play and succeed at anything.

    InsightTexas

  • InsightTexas said...

    Certainly the worst response comment on a topic on this board ever.

    The miracle of football in America is that there are so few serious injuries in the game given the millions of hits that occur each season. There are risks with every human endeavor that must be measured against the benefits to the individuals and the society as a whole. A rational mind would conclude the the huge societal and cultural benefits of football far outweigh the very few serious injuries that occur. Would kids in poor schools be better off if politicians shut down football as a positive outlet for their development? Do we really want a society where our young men cower at the possibility of getting hurt playing football and then grow up to find themselves on the front lines fighting against the terrorists of their generations?

    Obama's response to football is all about molding America into his own pathetic image. He wants America to be like him. A nation of effeminate, socialist, pacifist, government dependent underachievers who are incapable of leading or creating economic value or high achievement in anything. Barack Obama is the poster child for mediocrity in all endeavors and all that is wrong with America today. He is nothing more than a crudely charismatic demigod whose only skill sets are self-serving mendacity and demagoguery. His legacy will be economic, fiscal and financial ruin for the very people who were dumb enough to elect him in the first place.

    Give him credit though. He is the master at exploiting ignorance and the worst instincts of humanity. He's also the only president in history who made things worse for his core constituencies and offered them no real hope for the future and still convinced them to vote for him a second time. The problem is that all you witless Obama voters are dragging all of us down with you through him.

    Yes, everything will be a lot different in 10-20 years because of Barack Obama and America will be an empty bankrupt shell of the great nation our founders created if he succeeds in implementing his agenda. Football participation will be the least of our issues and our collective brain damage will not allow our kids to play and succeed at anything.

    I'm sure you were just as angry when George W. Bush gave tax cuts to the rich which blow a huge hole in the deficit, bailed out wall st., started 2 illegal wars without paying for them and sent thousands of young boys to die in a foreign desert to enrich weapons contractors and oil companies.

    With respect to your ignorance of how power systems work, presidents don't run this country, corporations do. Elections are when big business gets together every four years to decide policy. The worst part of your baseless assumption is that by pointing out the hypocrisy mentioned above, you assume that I'm as equal a sycophant for the other side. You have no idea of my political affiliations because I don't consider this the place to reveal them.

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  • Caver60 said...

    If a trend develops where former pro football players put shotguns to their chests and pull the trigger (it's happened at least twice now) so that their brains can be examined post mortem for damage caused by the game, there is bound to be a ruckus.

    I love the game. It's great. And it's dangerous. And that's a big part of the appeal, honestly.

    Anyone who follows the game closely should be aware of this undercurrent that clearly exists. I have little sympathy for professional players, who are men and make their own decisions, The problem comes in when those decisions are looked up to and emulated by kids. Myself included, when I was in high school.

    I was never even a good high school football player, but I loved it. And when I tore my knee up and doctors told me that a small percentage of athletes can play with a torn ACL, that was good enough for me at the time. I rehabbed and gave it a shot, and then I tore that knee up worse. And here I am, not crippled but certainly affected for the rest of my life.

    Sure, the injury could have happened in soccer or any other sport. But the brain injuries that these guys are complaining about and killing themselves over could not have.

    I love the game and do not want to see it change. But change will come whether we like it or not if this sort of thing keeps happening. What will the change look like? Who knows, but it's hard to imagine that it will look like the sport as we know it today.

    In many ways, this mirrors the steroid conversation that has been going on for a long time now. I don't really give a crap if pro football players use them. They are men and make their own decisions. But it trickles down to kids who typically don't make good decisions since they are living in the moment and think they are indestructible. And that's bad.

    I think this game will change based on recent trends. Protective equipment cannot change the fact that the brain still gets rattled around inside wonderful helmets.

    And before the downvotes commence, realize that I am not advocating change at all. Merely joining those harkening its arrival. This game as we know it has a limited lifespan.

    You are spot on.

    mchief