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  • OU football: Despite suspensions to receivers, the Sooners can persevere | NewsOK.com

    Oklahoma's depth at wide receiver took a hit last week when coach Bob Stoops indefinitely suspended Jaz Reynolds, Trey Franks and Kameel Jackson.

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  • Anyone want to bet that they will not be back for the UT game?

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  • Geez! is the guy in the video drunk? And whats up with the bell? Man, it is definitley Monday, today.

    This post was edited by BigTX on 5/14/2012 at 9:09 AM

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  • OU Outlook... there is 100$ chance of Suckage

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  • J. Frank Webb said...

    Anyone want to bet that they will not be back for the UT game?

    No way .

    hornokc

  • J. Frank Webb said...

    Anyone want to bet that they will not be back for the UT game?

    Maybe the backup safety, but IMO, the WRs are screwed. If the freshmen and Gardner have a good showing early in the season, they may not have a job to come back to. They werent exactly tearing it up anyway. We will see though, but I wouldnt be very sad if they didnt come back. Too big a headache.

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  • The Sooner running game will suck once again and be their achilles heel in 2012.

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  • It's 9:30pm and...

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  • Budro said...

    It's 9:30pm and...

    OU still sucks!!

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  • Willow01 said...

    The Sooner running game will suck once again and be their achilles heel in 2012.

    More brilliant wisdom from you. Tack that on to all of your OUisms from last season.

    Deep Red

  • I'm not gonna say OU won't miss a beat because you never know how freshmen will handle the transition, there are few Stills and Shipleys out there that pick it up without any problems. However, Gardner was the top WR prospect in the class according to some and the freshmen incoming class is very impressive. When you throw in Metoyer, who probably would've started on opening day anyways, then Durron Neal and Sterling Shepherd, who are both top 10 WRs, there's a lot of talent there. Also, don't sleep on Derek Woods from California, he has a lot of upside but it all comes down to how quick he handles the transition.

    I'm not worried about the run game. We return all but one off the two deep on the OL and have alot of depth. Where there's depth, there's competition. At RB, Clay and Finch are what they are. There's no telling how Whaley will be this year. But look out for juco transfer Damien Williams, who had ridiculous numbers last year, and also Alex Ross who's a different style of back than we have on campus right now. He's a track star at 218 pounds.

    As usual it'll come down to which Jones shows up and the OL.

    SoonerSeif

  • Thank you for the insight, Seif.

    How do you feel about the defense?

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  • I feel really good about the secondary! Almost all of the big plays given up last year, mainly vs Baylor and TT were mental errors. Colvin, Jefferson and Hurst are elite players. The 4th starter becomes interesting because if its Harris, then Colvin switches to CB. If its Okatcha or Everret then Colvin plays safety. One thing under Mike that will make an immediate impact is he basically runs a nickel for a base defense. Getting that extra DB on the field, likely Gabe Lynn, your prototypical Nickelback. Venebels always had 3 LBs on the field, no matter what the circumstances, drove me crazy!

    The front 7 worries me a little. We have a nice rotation of DTs, really excited about Jordan Phillips at 6'6 320 lbs and can do a standing back tuck, he's an insane athlete. The rest are good, not great but there's a lot of them. At DE Washington and King are great pass rushers and played a ton last year but there's little depth there and that's always a concern. Washington in particular is a stud, a former 5 star that finally had the light go on last year.

    LBs are up in the air. Wort is a stud, he's on the verge of being an elite LB. Love the kids motor, instincts and heart. Nelson basically started last year because he played as much as any LB last year. He brings great athleticsm but he gets out of position at times and frankly showed some piss poor technique last year. At SAM, Ibiloye will start. I personally, like him more than Nelson and wished he'd get moved to WILL because he's an excellent pass defender and has a nice feel for the game. I feel good about the starters but the depth scares me. We have Bird at backup MIKE and WILL and has the best size on the roster at 245 but I'm not sure how sold the coaches are on him because there was talk of moving him to FB and that's a red flag. After that, its all redshirt or true freshmen. Shannon Franklin is getting a lot of praise and has great upside but he's young. Incoming freshman Erik Striker from Florida is gonna be a damn good one, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets some PT this year.

    All and all, I think the impact of Mike will cover up the players lost. I don't think OU will be a top 25 defense but somewhere in the lower 30s range. They'll have games where they shut the team down completely and a few others where they're ripped to shreds. I expect a huge improvement year after next but this year we have some depth issues that scare me. But, I'd take Mike over BV every single day and its a change that needed to be made.

    SoonerSeif

  • SoonerSeif said...

    I feel really good about the secondary! Almost all of the big plays given up last year, mainly vs Baylor and TT were mental errors. Colvin, Jefferson and Hurst are elite players. The 4th starter becomes interesting because if its Harris, then Colvin switches to CB. If its Okatcha or Everret then Colvin plays safety. One thing under Mike that will make an immediate impact is he basically runs a nickel for a base defense. Getting that extra DB on the field, likely Gabe Lynn, your prototypical Nickelback. Venebels always had 3 LBs on the field, no matter what the circumstances, drove me crazy!

    The front 7 worries me a little. We have a nice rotation of DTs, really excited about Jordan Phillips at 6'6 320 lbs and can do a standing back tuck, he's an insane athlete. The rest are good, not great but there's a lot of them. At DE Washington and King are great pass rushers and played a ton last year but there's little depth there and that's always a concern. Washington in particular is a stud, a former 5 star that finally had the light go on last year.

    LBs are up in the air. Wort is a stud, he's on the verge of being an elite LB. Love the kids motor, instincts and heart. Nelson basically started last year because he played as much as any LB last year. He brings great athleticsm but he gets out of position at times and frankly showed some piss poor technique last year. At SAM, Ibiloye will start. I personally, like him more than Nelson and wished he'd get moved to WILL because he's an excellent pass defender and has a nice feel for the game. I feel good about the starters but the depth scares me. We have Bird at backup MIKE and WILL and has the best size on the roster at 245 but I'm not sure how sold the coaches are on him because there was talk of moving him to FB and that's a red flag. After that, its all redshirt or true freshmen. Shannon Franklin is getting a lot of praise and has great upside but he's young. Incoming freshman Erik Striker from Florida is gonna be a damn good one, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets some PT this year.

    All and all, I think the impact of Mike will cover up the players lost. I don't think OU will be a top 25 defense but somewhere in the lower 30s range. They'll have games where they shut the team down completely and a few others where they're ripped to shreds. I expect a huge improvement year after next but this year we have some depth issues that scare me. But, I'd take Mike over BV every single day and its a change that needed to be made.

    Im not as concerned about the DL but the LBs depth is something we agree on. Nelson did get caught up the few times he was in as the Will. Byrd did a better job but was a liabilty in pass coverage. One thing you will notice about the LBs is that they are crazy small. Fast as heck, but small. Other than Byrd, I dont think we have anyone over 230 or 225. That means the DTs better be great to give them clean lanes to the ball. Lindley is big, but I didnt hear much out of him this spring.

    Im good on the DBs and DL though but dont like Lynn at all. I dont think he has covered anyone yet. A few injuries at LB and we will see how creative little brother can get to keep us upright. BV didnt deal with that situation very well at all in 08.

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    bruthaman

  • More OU discussion, less aggy talk

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  • bruthaman said...

    Im not as concerned about the DL but the LBs depth is something we agree on. Nelson did get caught up the few times he was in as the Will. Byrd did a better job but was a liabilty in pass coverage. One thing you will notice about the LBs is that they are crazy small. Fast as heck, but small. Other than Byrd, I dont think we have anyone over 230 or 225. That means the DTs better be great to give them clean lanes to the ball. Lindley is big, but I didnt hear much out of him this spring.

    Im good on the DBs and DL though but dont like Lynn at all. I dont think he has covered anyone yet. A few injuries at LB and we will see how creative little brother can get to keep us upright. BV didnt deal with that situation very well at all in 08.

    I'm not that worried about DTs. I don't think they're great but we have 6 solid guys there so that depth will help. I'm just worried about the DE depth. I love Chuka but that's only 3 DEs, Grissom is always hurt. I'm higher on Lynn that most. I blame that TT disaster more on the DL and Venebels. Lynn will be a good player. He's not a CB and never has been, it took Mike one week to see he was being played out of position.

    SoonerSeif

  • SoonerSeif said...

    I'm not that worried about DTs. I don't think they're great but we have 6 solid guys there so that depth will help. I'm just worried about the DE depth. I love Chuka but that's only 3 DEs, Grissom is always hurt. I'm higher on Lynn that most. I blame that TT disaster more on the DL and Venebels. Lynn will be a good player. He's not a CB and never has been, it took Mike one week to see he was being played out of position.

    What is this? A Sooner thread in Burnt Orange? What's that all about? Don't you guys have your own?

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  • horn4life1 said...

    What is this? A Sooner thread in Burnt Orange? What's that all about? Don't you guys have your own?

    Then why have a thread titled "OU outlook"? It's not a big deal to me, if you don't want my opinion on the team I follow daily then that's fine, I won't. I just know I like hearing about other teams from their fans, and yes even Texas fans. It's the offseason and there's not much else to do, especially since my Reds suck.

    SoonerSeif

  • Hey now. Don't bash him for giving us insight into OU. Any bit of free information about an arch rival is always good. We can have civil conversations with Sooner fans.

    skinsman6394

  • Kameel Jackson will stay at Oklahoma, serve his suspension and continue as a part of the program.

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  • I'm guessing a two game suspension.

    SoonerSeif