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Nick Harvey lists top 3 (updated with a top 5)

  • per Orangebloods & LSU Rivals site

    1. LSU
    2. Baylor
    3. Texas A&M

    ***UPDATE**

    Harvey's top 5 are LSU, Baylor, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and Arkansas (per ESPN)

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Silky Johnson on 7/24/2012 at 11:57 PM

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    Silky Johnson ●

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  • that needs to change soon.

    basedgod

  • I have a feeling that changes with an offer.

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  • WildBill71

  • Waiting to offer players when they visit Texas for junior day is more important than offering sophomores that go to these camps and dominate seniors and juniors. It's best if kids have to wait for an offer as juniors from Texas and just ignore the schools, some of which that have recently played better football, that chase and show them love very early in their high school years.

    No way that will backfire.

    NavyHorn28

  • NavyHorn28 said...

    Waiting to offer players when they visit Texas for junior day is more important than offering sophomores that go to these camps and dominate seniors and juniors. It's best if kids have to wait for an offer as juniors from Texas and just ignore the schools, some of which that have recently played better football, that chase and show them love very early in their high school years.

    No way that will backfire.

    Has it so far? Way too soon to be hitting the panic button. Duane Akina will have lots of fun with the 2014 class WHEN IT IS TIME. Being patient and not allowing yourself to be rushed has no downside.

    "I've heard some of our fans say, 'We were always an SEC school. We just didn't know it," athletic director Bill Byrne said.

    Bevo52

  • pepper11

  • Bevo52 said...

    Has it so far? Way too soon to be hitting the panic button. Duane Akina will have lots of fun with the 2014 class WHEN IT IS TIME. Being patient and not allowing yourself to be rushed has no downside.

    The downside is that teams that have played better football than Texas are offering these kids as sophomores and these kids (some) feel they're getting the cold shoulder from Texas since they're not pursued as aggressively.

    I agree though that it is too early to hit the panic button. I'm just in the mindset that I wouldn't be surprised if Texas began losing out on recruits because of slow playing them. Of course, winning solves many problems, but it's not guaranteed that Texas will get back to the double digits this year.

    NavyHorn28

  • NavyHorn28 said...

    Waiting to offer players when they visit Texas for junior day is more important than offering sophomores that go to these camps and dominate seniors and juniors. It's best if kids have to wait for an offer as juniors from Texas and just ignore the schools, some of which that have recently played better football, that chase and show them love very early in their high school years.

    No way that will backfire.

    has it or are you just overreacting? seriously...when has texas ever struggled recruiting? we are consistently in the top 10. akina is one of the best db coaches in america and everyone knows it.

    #1 - we can't get them all. it is always entirely possible that a recruit has other schools as his favorites. shocking, i know but it does happen.

    #2 - recruits looks at more than just one school. fit is a big deal. some kids want to play early and if the depth chart doesn't meet their needs, they look at other schools that fit them more.

    i don't think db recruiting will ever be a problem at texas....relax

    Sancho

  • NavyHorn28 said...

    The downside is that teams that have played better football than Texas are offering these kids as sophomores and these kids (some) feel they're getting the cold shoulder from Texas since they're not pursued as aggressively.

    I agree though that it is too early to hit the panic button. I'm just in the mindset that I wouldn't be surprised if Texas began losing out on recruits because of slow playing them. Of course, winning solves many problems, but it's not guaranteed that Texas will get back to the double digits this year.

    I have seen no evidence of UT's recruiting demise, even though it is an annual prediction by some because a) UT recruits too many in-state players, b) UT waste's so much time recruiting kids from SEC territory, c) UT is ignoring Houston, d) UT recruits too many Lake Travis players, e) UT recruits too many choir boys, f) UT recruits too much low-hanging fruit, g) UT recruits kids too soon and h) UT recruits kids too late. Did I miss any?

    "I've heard some of our fans say, 'We were always an SEC school. We just didn't know it," athletic director Bill Byrne said.

    Bevo52

  • Bevo52 said...

    I have seen no evidence of UT's recruiting demise, even though it is an annual prediction by some because a) UT recruits too many in-state players, b) UT waste's so much time recruiting kids from SEC territory, c) UT is ignoring Houston, d) UT recruits too many Lake Travis players, e) UT recruits too many choir boys, f) UT recruits too much low-hanging fruit, g) UT recruits kids too soon and h) UT recruits kids too late. Did I miss any?

    A) UT recruits too many Texas players that aren't good enough
    B) No comment
    C) Generally, as the mods have pointed out, UT under-recruits Houston and is almost never the first school to "find" the stud
    D) All three LT players that UT recruited have been busts/did not warrant an offer at the time, so yes, they do
    E) If the kid is talented as well as being a "choir boy", then no problem. But if the only reason you recruited him is because he's a "choir boy", then big problem.
    F) Absolutely, the examples are plentiful
    G) Absolutely, Texas offers lesser kids all the time that they could have gotten at the end of the cycle after recruiting the elite studs
    H) Generally, if LSU, Alabama, USC, OU, etc. have already offered, Texas should probably offer

    WildBill71

  • The good news is that LSU is going to have the secondary class that Akina dreamed of, so hopefully it will wake up the UT staff in regards to this bogus self-imposed rule that other schools are taking advantage of when recruiting against Texas.

    WildBill71

  • Whoa let's put the brakes on here for a second. We haven't closed out 2012 yet and have no idea what's going to happen during the season. While I'd love for every recruit to list Texas first all the time the fact right now is the current staff is still paying for the sins of the previous.

    I'm ok with our strategy as it pertains to offering players as long as the staff is evaluating and recruiting full-time. That's where we got in trouble with the previous guys. We wouldn't offer until JR day AND communication/evaluation/recruiting sucked. If you fix the back end of that equation I think maintaining your stance on offering at JR day is ok.

    maninblack1

  • Mods,
    Aren't both Ed Paris and Nick Harvey from Louisiana and came to the state of Texa post-Katrina? Or am I confusing them with some other big time recruits in 2014?

    Racer X

  • Racer X said...

    Mods, Aren't both Ed Paris and Nick Harvey from Louisiana and came to the state of Texa post-Katrina? Or am I confusing them with some other big time recruits in 2014?

    Pretty sure Paris is a transplant. Not sure about Harvey.

    If you view it as Paris plays for Edna Karr instead of Mansfield Timberview it will make you feel better.

    maninblack1

  • WildBill71 said...

    A) UT recruits too many Texas players that aren't good enough B) No comment C) Generally, as the mods have pointed out, UT under-recruits Houston and is almost never the first school to "find" the stud D) All three LT players that UT recruited have been busts/did not warrant an offer at the time, so yes, they do E) If the kid is talented as well as being a "choir boy", then no problem. But if the only reason you recruited him is because he's a "choir boy", then big problem. F) Absolutely, the examples are plentiful G) Absolutely, Texas offers lesser kids all the time that they could have gotten at the end of the cycle after recruiting the elite studs H) Generally, if LSU, Alabama, USC, OU, etc. have already offered, Texas should probably offer

    If you address those issues from two perspectives - first, "the prior staff" and second "the current staff", I'd think you'd draw very different conclusions.

    I'd also add a "current staff" list of attributes that include: (1) far superior patience in talent evaluation and willingness to hold off on offers until later in the process. Examples from last recruiting class along are plentiful (A.Colbert, etc...). (2) greater willingness to pursue kids committed elsewhere, even late in the process (Daje, Cottrell, Santos, etc...). (3) More doggedness in pursuing OOS recruits - Shiro Davis, Marcel Harris, etc..

    Net-net for me: Don't attribute the sins of McWhorter, Kennedy, and Rucker to the current staff. Searles, Davis, and Wyatt are a totally different class of recruiter, both in terms of evaluation and effort. I still think that Mack could use a dose of "new culture" in recruiting, but I'm hopeful that seeing Mack pursue committed players, stay after AAU guys like RSJ, and even take to Twitter are all signs that Mack is evolving in the right direction. We have every reason to be optimistic about recruiting and on-field success going forward.

    Racer X

  • WildBill71 said...

    A) UT recruits too many Texas players that aren't good enough B) No comment C) Generally, as the mods have pointed out, UT under-recruits Houston and is almost never the first school to "find" the stud D) All three LT players that UT recruited have been busts/did not warrant an offer at the time, so yes, they do E) If the kid is talented as well as being a "choir boy", then no problem. But if the only reason you recruited him is because he's a "choir boy", then big problem. F) Absolutely, the examples are plentiful G) Absolutely, Texas offers lesser kids all the time that they could have gotten at the end of the cycle after recruiting the elite studs H) Generally, if LSU, Alabama, USC, OU, etc. have already offered, Texas should probably offer

    Pretty much sums up my thoughts and spot on.

    PDX Horn

  • Bevo52 said...

    I have seen no evidence of UT's recruiting demise, even though it is an annual prediction by some because a) UT recruits too many in-state players, b) UT waste's so much time recruiting kids from SEC territory, c) UT is ignoring Houston, d) UT recruits too many Lake Travis players, e) UT recruits too many choir boys, f) UT recruits too much low-hanging fruit, g) UT recruits kids too soon and h) UT recruits kids too late.

    Did I miss any?

    white kids in skill positions

    JeezGuy

  • Bevo52 said...

    I have seen no evidence of UT's recruiting demise, even though it is an annual prediction by some because a) UT recruits too many in-state players, b) UT waste's so much time recruiting kids from SEC territory, c) UT is ignoring Houston, d) UT recruits too many Lake Travis players, e) UT recruits too many choir boys, f) UT recruits too much low-hanging fruit, g) UT recruits kids too soon and h) UT recruits kids too late. Did I miss any?

    I tend to not want to wait on absolute evidence, when it come to things as miniscule as football I mean.. The recent kids saying coaches haven't called them, or highly talented kids listing Texas A&M as an option above Texas is enough for many fans to say, "Whooooa, what's going on?!". It's time to stop living on the "hope things go right" factor. Hope that Texas wins double digits, hope that A&M has 5 wins or less this year, etc.

    NavyHorn28

  • Winning cures all. If we don't start winning more ball games, we better alter our strategy and quick.

    Beast 512

  • Beast 512 said...

    Winning cures all. If we don't start winning more ball games, we better alter our strategy and quick.

    The challenges that we are running into are really all about winning. Many kids have trouble thinking about much other than the here and now - trust me as I have a teenager. The kids we are recruiting have seen Baylor win more games these past two years. We have got to get back to elite status on the field to continue reeling in the elite recruits.

    AllenHorn

  • Bevo52 said...

    I have seen no evidence of UT's recruiting demise, even though it is an annual prediction by some because a) UT recruits too many in-state players, b) UT waste's so much time recruiting kids from SEC territory, c) UT is ignoring Houston, d) UT recruits too many Lake Travis players, e) UT recruits too many choir boys, f) UT recruits too much low-hanging fruit, g) UT recruits kids too soon and h) UT recruits kids too late. Did I miss any?

    You got them all. But none of that matters. Nick Harvey is a stud that needs to be recruited quickly. We're not coming in on our white horse and swooping up recruits at the last second anymore.

    basedgod

  • I used to make my mother mad by calling her a semi-professional worrier. If she had nothing in the world to worry about, that is exactly what she worried about. BTW, when it comes to recruitniks, they're all studs who must be offered this very minute. The UT coaches aren't just sitting around shooting rubber bands at flies. They can see that LOI Day for the 2013 class is still almost seven months out. Think about that for just a minute and step away from the ledge. Any kid who doesn't know that UT has their own way of doing things and just how much more meaningful a UT offer is, probably isn't smart enough to stay eligible here anyway. I refuse to get all hot and bothered over this, especially considering that the 2014 DB class in Texas may have 12 or so future NFL guys.

    "I've heard some of our fans say, 'We were always an SEC school. We just didn't know it," athletic director Bill Byrne said.

    Bevo52

  • Bevo52 said...

    I used to make my mother mad by calling her a semi-professional worrier. If she had nothing in the world to worry about, that is exactly what she worried about. BTW, when it comes to recruitniks, they're all studs who must be offered this very minute. The UT coaches aren't just sitting around shooting rubber bands at flies. They can see that LOI Day for the 2013 class is still almost seven months out. Think about that for just a minute and step away from the ledge. Any kid who doesn't know that UT has their own way of doing things and just how much more meaningful a UT offer is, probably isn't smart enough to stay eligible here anyway. I refuse to get all hot and bothered over this, especially considering that the 2014 DB class in Texas may have 12 or so future NFL guys.

    Simply put, you are looking at this like it's no different from any other year, when in fact it is very different. LSU in particular is coming into Texas hard and early, and it's showing.

    WildBill71

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