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Kabongo, Bond out for Fresno State

  • University of Texas sophomore guard Myck Kabongo will not play in Friday’s season opener against Fresno State, the school announced Thursday. The NCAA continues to work with UT officials to complete its investigation but has not made a ruling on Kabongo’s eligibility at this time.

    EDIT: Barnes just told the media that Jaylen Bond will also miss the game. He injured his right ankle on Tuesday.

    This post was edited by Dave Behr on 11/8/2012 at 2:51 PM

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  • Jeff Howe said...

    University of Texas sophomore guard Myck Kabongo will not play in Friday’s season opener against Fresno State, the school announced Thursday. The NCAA continues to work with UT officials to complete its investigation but has not made a ruling on Kabongo’s eligibility at this time.

    A trained monkey could have completed an investigation by now. This pocket veto nonsense that the NCAA continues to pull is an embarrassment and eventually some court is going to call the NCAA on it and blow the whole thing up.

    DLev

  • is this gonna be like Jordan Hicks' weekly injury status?

    "Ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free"

    TexShoe

  • TexShoe said...

    is this gonna be like Jordan Hicks' weekly injury status?

    LOL. This makes no sense at all. All this time and Tristan, the Man in question, Myck and his brother have all responed and I am guessing showed all bank account info and NCAA still can't figure it out. This is just the NCAA showing it has power even though there is nothing to find. How hard is it to follow the money trail?

    This post was edited by Jordan91 on 11/8/2012 at 2:23 PM

    Jordan91

  • "I don't want this year to be well if Myck would have been allowed to play we could have gone this far"

    Jordan91

  • Yeah this is a joke. At least let the kid play until you come up with a ruling. This is the opposite of "innocent until proven guilty."

    ITMotive

  • ITMotive said...

    Yeah this is a joke. At least let the kid play until you come up with a ruling. This is the opposite of "innocent until proven guilty."

    It's benefit to the team to hold him out until he's cleared or there's the possibility of forfeiting wins. If I'm not mistaken, it's UT that is holding him out

    Taupe Attack189082

  • Leaving an availability with Barnes. Jaylen Bond will also miss the game. He injured his right ankle on Tuesday.

    Dave Behr

  • The kid also can go to the courts but Coach Barnes is probably against that.

    Jordan91

  • Uh oh

    TXA2009

  • Jordan91 said...

    LOL. This makes no sense at all. All this time and Tristan, the Man in question, Myck and his brother have all responed and I am guessing showed all bank account info and NCAA still can't figure it out. This is just the NCAA showing it has power even though there is nothing to find. How hard is it to follow the money trail?

    Gerry and I have mentioned on another thread that the main issue probably isn't who paid for the trip. It's probably the report about an agent calling NBA teams about Kabongo before the draft.

    bierce

  • While I agree with the idea of letting him play until something is proven, the "innocent until proven guilty" is really only a legal concept that is valid within the confines of the courtroom. As other posters have said, it certainly appears to be a case of the NCAA dragging its feet because it can.

    UT71

  • bevoswim said...

    While I agree with the idea of letting him play until something is proven, the "innocent until proven guilty" is really only a legal concept that is valid within the confines of the courtroom. As other posters have said, it certainly appears to be a case of the NCAA dragging its feet because it can.

    Barnes on Myck's eligibility:

    We’ll wait until we hear from [the NCAA] and until we hear from them we’ll continue to keep [Kabongo] out of the game. The one thing we would never do is do something that would jeopardize this team, because if you play a guy that they’ve ruled ineligible they take away those games. We’ll stay with the fact that until we hear from them he won’t play.

    Dave Behr

  • Also, Barnes said their timetable for when they think they'll hear from the NCAA is "today or tomorrow".

    We'll see if that happens, but it would definitely be welcomed to find out exactly how long they're going to be without their PG.

    Dave Behr

  • Sucks for Bond. Hopefully a minor ankle sprain.

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    Gerry Hamilton

  • Gerry Hamilton said...

    Sucks for Bond. Hopefully a minor ankle sprain.

    Yeah, Barnes has been really high on Bond in the few times we've gotten to talk to him leading up to this season.

    Called him the best rebounded on the team today.

    "We're going to have to have someone, or as a group, be able to take care of [rebounding], because that's the one thing he brings. He's tough and a tough-minded player. He's improved so much since last year and has had a great fall, and it's just tough that it happened. It just happened because he plays hard."

    Dave Behr

  • Dave Behr said...

    Also, Barnes said their timetable for when they think they'll hear from the NCAA is "today or tomorrow".

    We'll see if that happens, but it would definitely be welcomed to find out exactly how long they're going to be without their PG.

    Yes today or tomorrow would be very good. It would really suck if they drag their feet for a couple more weeks and then decide to suspend on top of that. The sooner this gets put behind us the better.

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  • To be clear, it's the combination of the NCAA intentionally dragging its feet and then instituting punishment retroactively that is the problem. The NCAA should have x days from when a school self reports (and "x" can change depending on the issue) to finalize a ruling. If the NCAA doesn't in that time, the student should be able to play with no threat of retroactive punishment to the team.

    DLev

  • DLev said...

    To be clear, it's the combination of the NCAA intentionally dragging its feet and then instituting punishment retroactively that is the problem. The NCAA should have x days from when a school self reports (and "x" can change depending on the issue) to finalize a ruling. If the NCAA doesn't in that time, the student should be able to play with no threat of retroactive punishment to the team.

    On what basis do you claim the NCAA is "intentionally dragging its feet" in this case?

    If the member institutions want to remove the threat of retroactive penalties, they can easily do so.

    bierce

  • Gerry Hamilton said...

    Sucks for Bond. Hopefully a minor ankle sprain.

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    texaztom

  • Jordan91 said...

    The kid also can go to the courts but Coach Barnes is probably against that.

    He can go, but his chances of winning are near zero, and that's just because I'm being kind.

    “Kansas may wind up number one in these polls, but that would be so unfair to Texas...” -- Len Elmore, 2/13/11

    Bob in Houston

  • Hopefully no one against this delay was in favor of the Penn State penalties. Once you give a crap bag organization more power, you deserve what you get.

    rozell99

  • Not the same issue at all. The Penn State penalties were a power grab where the NCAA really had no authority. Here, the NCAA always has had authority to investigate extra benefits/eligibility.

    Now, whether they are moving as fast as they can... that's another matter.

    “Kansas may wind up number one in these polls, but that would be so unfair to Texas...” -- Len Elmore, 2/13/11

    Bob in Houston

  • Its a power play by an inept group of bureaucrats. The rules are imposed in a completely arbitrary fashion. Hopefully no one is naive enough to think that any kid trying to decide whether or not to turn pro or come back to college hasn't sought advise outside of his head coach; and if he knows anyone playing pro ball, that advise probably is being made by someone in the business. The NCAA knows this. At this point; its just a power trip by micro-phallic NCAA bureaucrats. They fully know that Myck had a professional make a few calls to find out where he would be drafted and how much he would be paid; but they also know that no NBA is going to corroborate that.

    The main issue is who paid for the trip. There is absolutely no question about that. . The NCAA is pretty sure that the agent did and they probably are correct; but Tristan has given cover to Myck and the NCAA is having a snit. Like any little bureaucratic piss-ant; they are going to drag their feet as long as they can.

    gordosan

  • bierce said...

    On what basis do you claim the NCAA is "intentionally dragging its feet" in this case?

    If the member institutions want to remove the threat of retroactive penalties, they can easily do so.

    See what gordosan said for your first question. Give me a freaking break on your second comment. Exactly when have the member institutions shown any inclination to fight the bureaucratic monster they have created? And, in any event, I fail to see what the ineptitude of the the member institutions in reigning in the monster they created justifies the monster's actions.

    DLev