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JUCO DT recruit

  • The UT Admissions Office keeps a list of all the junior colleges whose credits are accepted for transferring into UT. They keep that list on the head of a pin. BTW, the one that Cam Newton played at isn't on it.

    "I've heard some of our fans say, 'We were always an SEC school. We just didn't know it," athletic director Bill Byrne said.

    Bevo52

  • Bevo52 said...

    The UT Admissions Office keeps a list of all the junior colleges whose credits are accepted for transferring into UT. They keep that list on the head of a pin. BTW, the one that Cam Newton played at isn't on it.

    Best reason posted as to the no JUCO at Texas. It is a school admission obstacle. The stars have to align perfectly for it to happen:

    1. Must be at a position of immediate need.
    2. Must have grades to transfer to Texas.
    3. Must have courses that will transfer to a degree program at Texas.
    4. Must be "Texas good" on the field. As in come in and start.
    5. Player needs to have no character issues.

    It's just not going to happen.

    PHLHorn

  • BobbyBurton said...

    Guys,

    For those of you who follow the board closely, I mentioned last week that Bo Davis stopped by to see a Mississippi Juco.

    It's not happening. Not sure what else to say.

    Why did in your opinion did Bo Davis stop by there then?...If you don't know(Or rather not disclose), thats cool. That just seems odd maybe.

    Did Bo Davis go in and visit to check him out with possible intent to recruit or are you saying that it probably wasn't ever going happen at all anyway in this case?

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by RoosterNTexas on 5/3/2011 at 11:24 PM

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  • PHLHorn said...

    Best reason posted as to the no JUCO at Texas. It is a school admission obstacle.

    unless you play basketball or baseball. in which case it's no longer a school admission obstacle.

    roger huerta

  • Johnny Walker said...

    There are some incredible JUCO . So now we know that if a Cam Newton called he would got no answer.

    There are a hell of a lot more disruptive JUCO's than Cam Newton.

    There is a reason they went the JUCO route.....

    But, there is an exception to everything. Texas has a choice where to spend it's energy. Texas isn't the only school to feel this way.

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  • I played baseball at Blinn for one year in 1990 and transferred to UT in 1991 and all my credits were accepted. I don't think it is accurate to say UT does not accept course credits from Blinn.

    TexCwby

  • TexCwby said...

    I played baseball at Blinn for one year in 1990 and transferred to UT in 1991 and all my credits were accepted. I don't think it is accurate to say UT does not accept course credits from Blinn.

    Not discounting your experience but admission policies have changed since 1991 and not just for people coming straight from hs

    RoyalwithCheese

  • TexCwby said...

    I played baseball at Blinn for one year in 1990 and transferred to UT in 1991 and all my credits were accepted. I don't think it is accurate to say UT does not accept course credits from Blinn.

    I think the top 10% (or whatever it is now) law has changed admission policies since then. A Blinn student could still transfer today, but I don't know if all their credits will any more as well.

    It's my understanding that its made to be intentionally easier for transfers from the CAP programs.

    groly

  • I went to UT in the 70's and 80's. If I was applying today, I wouldn't have been accepted.

    "I've heard some of our fans say, 'We were always an SEC school. We just didn't know it," athletic director Bill Byrne said.

    Bevo52

  • I think it has more to do with Mack than admissions. Baseball still and will continue to bring in juco's.

    maninblack1

  • Bobby... is the DT from Mississippi you are talking about the same as DE Denico Autry at East Mississippi community college?

    "I picked up a Texas A&M offer and a Texas offer a couple of weeks ago," noted Autry. "I also have offers from Florida, Mississippi State, Alabama, Ole Miss, Oregon, Tennessee and some others."

    "I would say Texas, Mississippi State and Alabama are my favorites and it's between those three schools," said Autry. "Coach (Manny) Diaz of Texas offered me two weeks ago and they already knew of me when he was at Mississippi State. And Coach Bo Davis is at Texas and he is a good guy, too.

    It aint gonna happen. Is this just another case where a player that talked to coaches and then use the term "offer" when in fact all they did was have a conversation?

    SoldierHorn

  • The main problem is academics. Texas is the only school in our conference that does not accept transfer hours in which the student made a "D". All the other schools in the Big 12 will accept those hours.
    The fact that they are playing JUCO is indicative that the grades out of high school were not acceptable at UT and in most instances continues in Junior College.

    Lateral

  • SoldierHorn said...

    Bobby... is the DT from Mississippi you are talking about the same as DE Denico Autry at East Mississippi community college?

    "I picked up a Texas A&M offer and a Texas offer a couple of weeks ago," noted Autry. "I also have offers from Florida, Mississippi State, Alabama, Ole Miss, Oregon, Tennessee and some others."

    "I would say Texas, Mississippi State and Alabama are my favorites and it's between those three schools," said Autry. "Coach (Manny) Diaz of Texas offered me two weeks ago and they already knew of me when he was at Mississippi State. And Coach Bo Davis is at Texas and he is a good guy, too.

    It aint gonna happen. Is this just another case where a player that talked to coaches and then use the term "offer" when in fact all they did was have a conversation?

    Well that makes things interesting.

    WildBill71

  • WildBill71 said...

    Well that makes things interesting.

    Yup. He might have figured out that going into the season with only Jeffcoat/Okafor/Wilson/Reed at DE is a disaster depth wise.

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    khorn28

  • I'm going to double back and check on this but my understanding right now remains the same.

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  • I put the odds on Texas taking a JC kid in football at a very, very low %.

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  • UT most certainly does accept transfers from Blinn. We had a couple of transfers from there on the baseball team a few years ago. One of them hit .400 while helping us win a national title.

    kevwun

  • That's quite the resume of schools that have offered. Is this Denico Autry a solid DE?

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  • kevwun said...

    UT most certainly does accept transfers from Blinn. We had a couple of transfers from there on the baseball team a few years ago. One of them hit .400 while helping us win a national title.

    Yep, students from Blinn transfer in to UT and A&M often. Moreover, the baseball team has had taken in more than it's share of transfers from Blinn.

    Heisenberg

  • Need to post a clarification:

    1. I was emailed about a DT recruit, not a DE recruit (see the original post title). Texas is not looking at DT recruits. They're done at the position (save Javonte Magee) unless someone de-commits and they're not planning on that happening.

    2. We're following up on the defensive end just to double check.

    3. Texas is not recruiting the OL from the school.

    4. Finally, I want to say this and say it without coming off the wrong way (because I think the approach the coaches have right now is by far the best Texas has had in years).

    Some of the new Texas coaches do not recruit the way Mack Brown staffs have traditionally recruited.

    a. "Offers" may not mean what most are accustomed to them meaning - all of these assistants from the SEC are accustomed to offering 100 players early, not having them commit, and then watching them through the spring and fall before recruiting truly commences. Whether or not a true offer materializes is a different discussion. This is how recruiting works in the SEC. Playing the offer game is part of the landscape.

    b. Several of the staff also had built a lot of groundwork recruiting players based on their previous jobs, some of them over a very long period of time. By that, I mean it's normal for them to continue to look in on kids, schools or coaches where they had already previously expended energy and to express interest in them. They want to (and should) keep their connections across the country because you never know when that can pay dividends.

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    Long story short, I still very much don't see Texas connecting all of the dots on a Juco DE. But we will double check and see where, if anywhere, it goes. I don't count on it amounting to much.

    This post was edited by BobbyBurton on 5/4/2011 at 9:16 AM

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  • kevwun said...

    UT most certainly does accept transfers from Blinn. We had a couple of transfers from there on the baseball team a few years ago. One of them hit .400 while helping us win a national title.

    The difference being that most baseball players are full qualifiers out of high school and are taking more competitive classes at the start of junior college that will transfer to UT.

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    Some of the new Texas coaches do not recruit the way Mack Brown staffs have traditionally recruited.

    a. "Offers" may not mean what most are accustomed to them meaning - all of these assistants from the SEC are accustomed to offering 100 players early, not having them commit, and then watching them through the spring and fall before recruiting truly commences. Whether or not a true offer materializes is a different discussion. This is how recruiting works in the SEC. Playing the offer game is part of the landscape.

    this sheds a lot of light on some of the statements we've seen this spring re: recruits in the se part of the country saying they have texas offers when they've never set foot on campus or spoken to mack.

    thanks for the digging, bobby.

    roger huerta

  • roger huerta said...

    unless you play basketball or baseball. in which case it's no longer a school admission obstacle.

    World of difference between other sports and football. In most other sports the player takes courses at the Juco school that they know in advance will transfer to Texas.

    Often they know they will be transferring to Texas two years ahead of time.

    Football generally doesn't work that way.

    PHLHorn

  • OJ Simpson was a JUCO. Case closed.

    Bird in Hand

  • PHLHorn said...

    World of difference between other sports and football. In most other sports the player takes courses at the Juco school that they know in advance will transfer to Texas.

    Often they know they will be transferring to Texas two years ahead of time.

    Football generally doesn't work that way.

    none of that makes it a school admittance issue. that makes it a football specific issue.

    there are plenty of reasons texas football doesn't recruit juco kids. but it's NOT because ut blanketly doesn't admit juco kids like you infer, or that many other posters do.

    roger huerta