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Is Harsin under pressure?

  • So after I wrote that Harsin piece, I received a lot of emails that I was an idiot for saying that Harsin was under a lot of pressure. A bunch of them felt I was writing about Greg Davis like he was the greatest offensive coordinator ever.

    Here's what I wrote:

    "The lifelong Boise resident left his comfortable cocoon of Boise State and jumped to the other side of the country into a high-risk, high-reward situation. He will face more pressure and scrutiny than any of Texas' new coaches.

    He's not only installing a new offense and calling the plays, but he's also replacing Davis, a coach who in his 13-year tenure groomed the top two quarterbacks in school history and produced the nine best scoring seasons ever at Texas."

    You guys are fans. You're the one who really supply the pressure. What do you think? Am I wrong for thinking Harsin will be the most scrutinized of the new coaches.?

    Lead Writer Hookem.com___EMAIL:atrubow@statesman.com___TWITTER: http://twitter.com/#!/aTrubow

    Alan Trubow

  • Alan, I've seen some of that today and, frankly, I just don't see the issue with what you wrote. I think it safe to say that the offensive side of the ball has received more scrutiny in recent seasons. As such, it is logical to suggest that whoever is responsible for that side of the ball will be hot under the microscope. With that said, I think everyone in the organization will be feeling pressure. That includes players. I wouldn't get too worked up about it. It's nothing compared to the way your good friend Kirk Bohhls got worked over today with his AAS piece. Yikes.

    TXStampede

  • After 5-7, everybody is under alot of pressure, regardless if they just arrived or not

    This post was edited by mcb0703 on 2/25/2011 at 7:44 PM

    mcb0703

  • I find nothing wrong with that opinion. I think both coordinators will feel tons of pressure this year. I also feel like Mack will ultimately bear the biggest pressure load, especially if Texas loses 5 or more games this year and looks to struggle.

    The wheels came off in a big way last year and Macks legacy is at steak. If he does not right the ship and quick, he stands to lose the most here. He can either be right up there with DKR or he can be the guy that let his loyalties and stubborn ways ruin everything he built.

    All I know is that I'm rooting for all to succeed!

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    Cousin Eddie

  • Nope, he won't be feeling much pressure. This spring we have 8 TEs, none of them impact players, and 7 healthy offensive lineman. If we don't have success, it's because of how Mack put together this roster. These next few years are going to be painful. Period. We need to give a long leash to these coaches and let them build this program back up brick by brick.

    Quarterback

  • TXStampede said...

    Alan, I've seen some of that today and, frankly, I just don't see the issue with what you wrote. I think it safe to say that the offensive side of the ball has received more scrutiny in recent seasons. As such, it is logical to suggest that whoever is responsible for that side of the ball will be hot under the microscope. With that said, I think everyone in the organization will be feeling pressure. That includes players. I wouldn't get too worked up about it. It's nothing compared to the way your good friend Kirk Bohhls got worked over today with his AAS piece. Yikes.

    I'm not worried about it, I'm just surprised.

    I don't care if Harsin brings the most innovative offense ever created to Texas. It's about production.
    You really think fans will view him as an improvement if the Texas offense doesn't put up the numbers it did over the past 10 years. I don't. That's my point.

    I've just been surprised that this is what people have been e-mailing me about. Normally I can predict the emails that are coming. These ones have surprised me.

    Lead Writer Hookem.com___EMAIL:atrubow@statesman.com___TWITTER: http://twitter.com/#!/aTrubow

    Alan Trubow

  • Pressure is not when you take over after a 5&7 year. It's taking over after a team goes 13 & 0 and the OC you replaced gets a head coaching job. You have nowhere to go but down.
    Harsin will eventually feel the full pressure that comes with coaching at Texas; but I think he will have a little slack early on due to the years of fan frustration with our previous scheme or lack thereof.
    At this point we crave innovation and execution.

    JBHSM

  • IMHO, I think the coach that will be the most scrutinized will be Diaz. For the most part, us fans were willing to take a retard chimp to replace Davis. If Harsin shows any semblance of creativity and ability to adjust... I think he will be a fan favorite. Many are willing to give him a pass for the horrible evaluations the past few years at OL, WR, and TE.

    Why do I think Diaz will be under more pressure? We just lost one of the best DCs in college football. Muschamp was a fan favorite and was being groomed as our next HC. In addition, he took a porous defense in 07 and gave us two top 10 defenses in the following years and developed a good amount of NFL players in his time here. With Diaz's aggressive scheme, and inexperience in the secondary... I could see us struggling his first year. If there is a significant drop off, the avg idiot will say, "look at him, he's way over his head. Can't believe we hired a guy that was the DC at Middle Tennessee St. just 2 years ago".

    Just my 2 cents.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by victory10 on 2/25/2011 at 7:59 PM

    victory10

  • I think the fact that Diaz is following a fan favorite (Muschamp almost had a cult following) makes for an interesting dynamic.

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    Silky Johnson

  • Pressure is a good thing and all the coaches should be under pressure.

    maninblack1

  • No but id put Diaz right there.

    hursthorn

  • As Lee Trevino once said, "You don't know what pressure is until you've played for $5 a hole with only $2 in your pocket."

    textex

  • I think they are all under pressure, including Mack. He let the program go to ---- last year and now he wants a winner. He picked these coaches so he'd better hope everything is in place to be a winner. If it isn't a winning season (say 9-10 wins), do you'll think Mack's job would also be in jeopardy?

    texasgal

  • This is Texas we are talking about. All coaches will be under pressure, including Harsin and even Mack. Just look how much Mack has physically aged in the last 12 years. You are correct, Harsin will have more pressure here than he had at Boise.

    NorthsideHorn

  • Easy act to follow. Unpredictability, misdirection and coherance will go a long way.

    Diaz will be the one looked at with askance.

    exuLt

  • After the way the defense played last year, I am looking forward to what Manny can do. Our defense played poorly last year.

    marathon

  • Every OC in college is under pressure and will be blame for anything that goes wrong

    The Bigdawg

  • Silky Johnson said...

    I think the fact that Diaz is following a fan favorite (Muschamp almost had a cult following) makes for an interesting dynamic.

    Alan,

    I understand your point but I'm surprised that you are surprised by the responses.

    Harsin simply hits GD average scoring and suddenly he'll be declared far superior simply because the fans see 25 formations, motion and a few trick plays.

    Diaz OTOH will be the opposite. Unless his performance is better than what we've seen in the past ( an average year, a great year and a poor year), he'll be raked over the coals.

    Mark my words, Harsin will be compared to '10, Diaz' standard will be '09.

    TEXAS fans are nothing if not predictable.

    And my post won't be popular but watch how true it will ring.

    Personally, I think both are going to do pretty well. Malcom Brown alone will make the O better even if nothing else changes and I bet there are lots of changes. Diaz is going to put guy in positions to succeed though he will be handicapped by a lack of DTs and CBs.

    If production was ever an issue, fans would have had far different opinions.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by echeese262 on 2/25/2011 at 8:59 PM

    echeese262

  • Basically the standard at this point is that if our pre-teen daughters can't accurately predict the offensive play it will be an improvement. Most fans are well aware the OL has had issues since the 2007 season. I agree that Diaz will face more scrutiny than Harsin.

    This post was edited by GoingCoastal on 2/25/2011 at 9:45 PM

    GoingCoastal

  • Harsin could be viewed as a superstar even if our scoring ranks well below our beloved GDGD's output. All he needs to do is show a pulse when we play OU. If he does that, then no one will care that he only beats the cream puffs by a 35 point margin instead of 50.

    VaHorn

  • Great article and dead on IMO. Hr is the high profile guy replacing an unpopular yet mostly successful Greg Davis. It's going to be interesting. It's going to take him some time and our fans aren't going to be patient.

    randoke77

  • randoke77 said...

    Great article and dead on IMO. Hr is the high profile guy replacing an unpopular yet mostly successful Greg Davis. It's going to be interesting. It's going to take him some time and our fans aren't going to be patient.

    Huh? We were subjected to Greg Davis for 13 years. Harsin will get at least 2 years before the fans bring the heat on under performance.

    GoingCoastal

  • Texas fans are known for their patience. Harsin will be given plenty of time to produce before he starts feeling any pressure.

    ChampKind

  • Alan Trubow said...

    I don't care if Harsin brings the most innovative offense ever created to Texas. It's about production. You really think fans will view him as an improvement if the Texas offense doesn't put up the numbers it did over the past 10 years. I don't. That's my point.

    This is the point in a nutshell. Texas fans like to complain because, after watching GD's offense for 13 years, they felt like they could predict what plays would be run. After 13 years, you'd have to be a pretty casual fan not to have picked up on some of that. The fact remains, despite all of the complaining, GD's offenses were tremendously productive, both yards and points.

    Harsin may go about it in a different way, but, eventually, he will be judged by whether his teams can put up 500 ypg and 40 ppg. If he can't, all the misdirection and trick plays in the world won't satisfy the Texas fans.

    I am confident that the offense will eventually be successful. When it is, it will be partially about coaching, partially about play-calling, and partially about good players executing what they have been taught. Hocus pocus isn't going to win many meaningful football games.

    texaztom

  • texaztom said...

    This is the point in a nutshell. Texas fans like to complain because, after watching GD's offense for 13 years, they felt like they could predict what plays would be run. After 13 years, you'd have to be a pretty casual fan not to have picked up on some of that. The fact remains, despite all of the complaining, GD's offenses were tremendously productive, both yards and points.

    Harsin may go about it in a different way, but, eventually, he will be judged by whether his teams can put up 500 ypg and 40 ppg. If he can't, all the misdirection and trick plays in the world won't satisfy the Texas fans.

    I am confident that the offense will eventually be successful. When it is, it will be partially about coaching, partially about play-calling, and partially about good players executing what they have been taught. Hocus pocus isn't going to win many meaningful football games.

    GD's "production" was all smoke and mirrors. Our schedule is always a Charmin soft 1 game season. I really don't care whether we can score 40 or 65 on North Texas. Here's the points we've put on OU since 2000:

    14, 3, 24, 13, 0, 45, 28, 21, 45, 16, 20

    Average: 20.8

    Quarterback