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Is Dez Bryant The Next Terrell Owens?

  • njohnson12 said...

    Is that a joke?

    No.................the record is very clear. Teams don't win long term with jerks like TO or Dez Bryant. They might have great stats but winning is a different animal. There is a reason the Pats win on a consistent basis..........and jerrysboys lose on a regular basis. Plus is there is something called right and wrong........while no person is perfect consistently doing the wrong thing is not acceptable with class organizations.

    "Leadership is wisdom, courage and great carelessness of self"

    austinr

  • austinr said...

    No.................the record is very clear. Teams don't win long term with jerks like TO or Dez Bryant. They might have great stats but winning is a different animal. There is a reason the Pats win on a consistent basis..........and jerrysboys lose on a regular basis. Plus is there is something called right and wrong........while no person is perfect consistently doing the wrong thing is not acceptable with class organizations.

    This has nothing to do with your original statement.

    You said, "You are only a great or good player if you are a good teammate," which I think is asinine. TO is one of the most productive receivers of all time, so, I'd say that yeah, he's at least a "good" player. He may not have a ring, but neither do Randy Moss, Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, etc. Do they suck too?

    I've been down this road on TO before (on this very site no less) and don't feel like going down it again, so I won't continue it any further. I just think that your parameters on what make a good player are crazy.

    njohnson12

  • TO never assaulted his mama.

    Grady Wilson

  • austinr said...

    You are only a great or good player if you are a good teammate..............TO was never in any circumstance a good teammate.

    I hate you for making me defend TO. 2nd all-time yards and touchdowns and 6th in receptions say you are incorrect.

    COACH CUTLIP

  • COACH CUTLIP said...

    I hate you for making me defend TO. 2nd all-time yards and touchdowns and 6th in receptions say you are incorrect.

    How many championship teams did he play for..................stats are stats. There is a difference

    "Leadership is wisdom, courage and great carelessness of self"

    austinr

  • mcb0703 said...

    Bryant arrested for misdemeanor domestic assault last night...between Dez's childhood problems, the issue with his mother during the NFL pre-camp interviews, his out of control spending, hiring Drew Rosenhaus, and tremendous on-field talent, it's almost as if he's following the TO playbook

    Would help if someone other than Drew Rosehaus were his agent

    http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8172124/dez-bryant-dallas-cowboys-arrested-domestic-violence-charge

    No. TO was a major prima donna with a big mouth but he hasn't been arrested or beaten up a woman that i am aware of. I'd hang with TO for amusement. I wouldn't get near Bryant. He's a drive by waiting to happen.

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    JeezGuy

  • mcb0703 said...

    No. TO, like Dez (as stated in the original post) had significant childhood problems, that's where it began

    & more info about TO in the link below...I stand by the comparison based on the personal childhood, problems with NFL mgmt, wrong agent, continued cycle of problems, & on-field talent

    http://www.inquisitr.com/276026/terrell-owens-facing-jail-time-t-o-misses-court-dates-child-support-payments/

    I'd still say no. Not the same. Its like saying Coke and Pepsi are the same thing just because they are both soda water.

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  • mcb0703 said...

    No, I used a YahooSports writer to support my point. Did you bother to open the link?

    No point. not the same IMO. Its easy to want to compare them but not the same.

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  • austinr said...

    You are only a great or good player if you are a good teammate..............TO was never in any circumstance a good teammate.

    can be mutually exclusive and not conditional.

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  • austinr said...

    How many championship teams did he play for..................stats are stats. There is a difference

    does not matter. he was a great WR and very productive. How many did Barry play for. I guess he was a crappy teammate.

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  • njohnson12 said...

    This has nothing to do with your original statement.

    You said, "You are only a great or good player if you are a good teammate," which I think is asinine. TO is one of the most productive receivers of all time, so, I'd say that yeah, he's at least a "good" player. He may not have a ring, but neither do Randy Moss, Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, etc. Do they suck too?

    I've been down this road on TO before (on this very site no less) and don't feel like going down it again, so I won't continue it any further. I just think that your parameters on what make a good player are crazy.

    nj..........sorry you think its asinine. Next time I will run my posts by you before I post them on the main board. I am sorry you are a fan of people like Dez and TO................

    "Leadership is wisdom, courage and great carelessness of self"

    austinr

  • austinr said...

    How many championship teams did he play for..................stats are stats. There is a difference

    One and played the game on a leg that had been broken a month before. You keep changing your argument. By your logic,Marino not a great player.

    COACH CUTLIP

  • austinr said...

    nj..........sorry you think its asinine. Next time I will run my posts by you before I post them on the main board. I am sorry you are a fan of people like Dez and TO................

    Don't get high and mighty its just a discussion and its very unbecoming

    COACH CUTLIP

  • JeezGuy said...

    does not matter. he was a great WR and very productive. How many did Barry play for. I guess he was a crappy teammate.

    Great WR have great hands...............did TO? No! Again a difference between stats and winning on a consistent basis.
    I had a baseball coach who used to say everybody can hustle, everybody and back a play up, everybody can study and everybody can have a good attitude. Not everybody can run a 4.4 or bench 350 lbs................so for me I don't want to be anywhere near a player who can't do what everybody else can do. ..............There is a reason the Spurs every year..............there is a reason the Pats win every year...........there is a reason the Giants win on a consistent basis..........character counts.

    "Leadership is wisdom, courage and great carelessness of self"

    austinr

  • COACH CUTLIP said...

    Don't get high and mighty its just a discussion and its very unbecoming

    Coach I was responding in kind...............the nj is the one who was "high and mighty". Saying a post is asinine is the example..........

    "Leadership is wisdom, courage and great carelessness of self"

    austinr

  • austinr said...

    nj..........sorry you think its asinine. Next time I will run my posts by you before I post them on the main board. I am sorry you are a fan of people like Dez and TO................

    It's just a conversation man. No need for the smug little remarks. If you took offense to me calling your statement crazy or asinine, it wasn't meant as an attack on you.

    I just wasn't following your logic in that you can only be a good player if you are a good teammate or on a winning team.

    njohnson12

  • austinr said...

    Great WR have great hands...............did TO? No! Again a difference between stats and winning on a consistent basis.
    I had a baseball coach who used to say everybody can hustle, everybody and back a play up, everybody can study and everybody can have a good attitude. Not everybody can run a 4.4 or bench 350 lbs................so for me I don't want to be anywhere near a player who can't do what everybody else can do. ..............There is a reason the Spurs every year..............there is a reason the Pats win every year...........there is a reason the Giants win on a consistent basis..........character counts.

    You say T.O. doesn't have great hands, but go look at his stats.

    Oh, you say stats don't matter, go look at the teams that T.O. made 10 times better.

    T.O. is not the reason those great teams he played for didn't win the Super Bowl in their great years. Go check his stats on a broken leg in the Super Bowl against the Pats.

    T.O. is not liked by many because of locker room drama, but to say that he isn't a great receiver is crazy. Guy gave 100% every Sunday.

    NavyHorn28

  • TO was a receiver with HOF stats and production, Dez can't even produce enough to be a #1 on his own team.

    TO was a terrible teammate who divided locker rooms, Dez has shown flashes of idiocy on the field but probably hasn't divided anything... Yet.

    Similiarities? They're both black, big WR, struggle with press coverage, and can't manage money.

    JumpingTheGun

  • Dez is a thug & an idiot
    TO is just a head case & a narcissist

    WildBill71

  • austinr said...

    Great WR have great hands...............did TO? No! Again a difference between stats and winning on a consistent basis. I had a baseball coach who used to say everybody can hustle, everybody and back a play up, everybody can study and everybody can have a good attitude. Not everybody can run a 4.4 or bench 350 lbs................so for me I don't want to be anywhere near a player who can't do what everybody else can do. ..............There is a reason the Spurs every year..............there is a reason the Pats win every year...........there is a reason the Giants win on a consistent basis..........character counts.

    LOL. Ok. you win. Outside of the 1100 catches, 16,000 yds and 150 tds he sucked.

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  • JeezGuy said...

    LOL. Ok. you win. Outside of the 1100 catches, 16,000 yds and 150 tds he sucked.

    Jeez................Thanks!biggrin

    "Leadership is wisdom, courage and great carelessness of self"

    austinr

  • Honestly after his upbringing its amazing to me he's not locked down in Huntsville

    COACH CUTLIP

  • Dez Bryant's mother told friends that her son 'tried to kill me' | NewsOK.com

    In an emotional 911 call, the mother of Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant can be heard telling friends that her son

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  • austinr said...

    Great WR have great hands...............did TO? No! Again a difference between stats and winning on a consistent basis. I had a baseball coach who used to say everybody can hustle, everybody and back a play up, everybody can study and everybody can have a good attitude. Not everybody can run a 4.4 or bench 350 lbs................so for me I don't want to be anywhere near a player who can't do what everybody else can do. ..............There is a reason the Spurs every year..............there is a reason the Pats win every year...........there is a reason the Giants win on a consistent basis..........character counts.

    There are some pretty big character flaws on all those teams you named.

    Blurred Vision

  • mcb0703 said...

    No, I used a YahooSports writer to support my point. Did you bother to open the link?

    Those "writers" have no connections to the teams they cover and are totally incompetent. The articles are painful to read.

    rozell99