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Inside the Team: Practice No. 4 -- Lots of notes from Wed.

  • cohorn said...

    I repeat he is not the biggest problem on the OL. If the OL is not good enough to overpower Good DLs then we have to run an offense that covers that up by making it less important. It's called play calling.

    I definitely think going to uptempo spread is going to help the Oline this year. Just how much we'll have to wait and see

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  • Hookem89 said...

    I think I will take this approach too until proven otherwise. I cannot imagine that the OL will not improve with every starter back and adding a starter in Harrison. If nothing else they should improve from another year of experience and S&C. I could also see one of the young lineman stepping up. I also believe the new offense should help out the OL. If the OL can be above average the offense will take off.

    Agree, new offense will be key to making OL better next year. Experience and new contributors should help but since they are not going to become NFL all pros then scheming is most important.

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  • cohorn said...

    Maybe you think I should rewrite my other comments about the Brewer situation I have all ready mentioned, but I think what makes these boards so crazy sometime is that individuals keep saying the same thing over and over. I think you have probably already read my other voiced opinions. If not you could read them so you will understand my comment to you.

    No, I don't have to read your comments since I wasn't addressing you to begin with when I made my own. If you want to tell me where I'm wrong in my statement on the Brewer issue, that's one thing, but to simply throw out a statement that "I'm reading too much in to something" without expanding on that is not exactly telling me anything. You apparently put some post out regarding your own opinion on the issue and that's fine, but guess what, I still get to post mine. I'd be happy to debate it with you if you would like to contribute something other than a one sentence reply based on what you thought of mine. If I misunderstood your statement in some way, then please expand on your original comment.

    This post was edited by txhookem78 on 3/1/2013 at 12:48 PM

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  • txhookem78 said...

    On the surface, I agree things don't add up with Brewer; however one could argue that logic falls in to several of our recent decisions regarding QB development and evaluations. It could very well be that he just doesn't fit in to what Applewhite wants to do with the offense. We know he's not known for his running ability, so it's not exactly a conspiracy theory to go out and say the guy simply could be on the outside looking in with respect to the QB order of things (as convoluted as that list appears to be at the moment). I do think if that's the case, then the coaches need to be up front about it so the kid can make a decision going forward that might put him in a better situation. I think there are just too many unknowns obviously to start comparing his situation with that of a Jordan Hicks. No question that Hicks can play and is a difference maker when on the field. That's not to say his athletic ability should be an excuse for a quicker punishment, but that's simply stating the obvious. My own personal view is that the moment Applewhite became the OC and decided to go with a faster tempo, that decision alone hurt Brewer more than anything else. I could be wrong, but based on what I know (been reported), that seems more likely than anything else at the moment.

    I've gone back and reread your comment. I think it is crazy to think his punishment has anything to do with where Brewer fits into any changes in the offense. I also don't know or do you know enough about this "up tempo' offense to know how Brewer will fit in. He is a young guy who will not challenge Ash this year. McCoy will probably be the backup due to his experience so it's not Brewer's time yet. Maybe he will challenge for the backup spot. I hope he does, but his punishment has nothing to do with it. Hell, it may mean they want him to step forward. That's why I think you read too much into his punishment.

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  • txhookem78 said...

    No, I don't have to read your comments since I wasn't addressing you to begin with when I made my own. If you want to tell me where I'm wrong in my statement on the Brewer issue, that's one thing, but to simply throw out a statement that "I'm reading too much in to something" without expanding on that is not exactly telling me anything. You apparently put some post out regarding your own opinion on the issue and that's fine, but guess what, I still get to post mine. I'd be happy to debate it with you if you would like to contribute something other than a one sentence reply based on what you thought of mine. If I misunderstood your statement in some way, then please expand on your original comment.

    Where did I say you can't make a comment. I simply thought you were over thinking the punishment thing so I said so.

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  • cohorn said...

    I've gone back and reread your comment. I think it is crazy to think his punishment has anything to do with where Brewer fits into any changes in the offense. I also don't know or do you know enough about this "up tempo' offense to know how Brewer will fit in. He is a young guy who will not challenge Ash this year. McCoy will probably be the backup due to his experience so it's not Brewer's time yet. Maybe he will challenge for the backup spot. I hope he does, but his punishment has nothing to do with it. Hell, it may mean they want him to step forward. That's why I think you read too much into his punishment.

    Oh wow, I guess you need to read it a second time, because you missed my point entirely. First, I was addressing Black Shipley's point that his recent infraction had something to do with the lack of snaps he's currently getting in practice and his comparison to that of Jordan Hicks being out on the field with the first team at the start of spring ball despite his team violation during the lead up to the Alamo Bowl. That wasn't my argument, so I have no idea where the hell you got that I thought his punishment had anything to do with his lack of snaps???. I speculated that his lack of snaps could be a result of other things and I went on to point those out, like for example Major’s change to a more up tempo style of offense (requiring a more mobile QB) and that not exactly being one of Brewer's strongest abilities. I went on to state that regardless of whatever it is (punishment or not), the coaches should give him a realistic picture of where he stands on this team so that he can make the best decision going forward for himself. I also went on to say their certainly could be other things that we don’t know about (unknowns) affecting this situation and as spring practice moves forward, I would think that would be made more clear in terms of what Connor’s situation ends up being with this team. Again, help me out and tell me where exactly am I "reading too much" in to those possibilities? For someone who apparently doesn't like to see things repeated on this board, you certainly have a habit of repeating things from others on your own. " McCoy will probably be the backup due to his experience". I could of swore I saw that posted somewhere from someone in an earlier post on this thread. I wonder who that could have been?

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  • txhookem78 said...

    Oh wow, I guess you need to read it a second time, because you missed my point entirely. First, I was addressing Black Shipley's point that his recent infraction had something to do with the lack of snaps he's currently getting in practice and his comparison to that of Jordan Hicks being out on the field with the first team at the start of spring ball despite his team violation during the lead up to the Alamo Bowl. That wasn't my argument, so I have no idea where the hell you got that I thought his punishment had anything to do with his lack of snaps???. I speculated that his lack of snaps could be a result of other things and I went on to point those out, like for example Major’s change to a more up tempo style of offense (requiring a more mobile QB) and that not exactly being one of Brewer's strongest abilities. I went on to state that regardless of whatever it is (punishment or not), the coaches should give him a realistic picture of where he stands on this team so that he can make the best decision going forward for himself. I also went on to say their certainly could be other things that we don’t know about (unknowns) affecting this situation and as spring practice moves forward, I would think that would be made more clear in terms of what Connor’s situation ends up being with this team. Again, help me out and tell me where exactly am I "reading too much" in to those possibilities? For someone who apparently doesn't like to see things repeated on this board, you certainly have a habit of repeating things from others on your own. " McCoy will probably be the backup due to his experience". I could of swore I saw that posted somewhere from someone in an earlier post on this thread. I wonder who that could have been?

    This is much more clear than your first post, but I think I got it the first time. Which is why I made my original comment about "over speculation". I think the punishment was just punishment all the rest is just speculation. You certainly have the right to opine all you want as I have the right to say "your over thinking". As for as Brewer not being suited to the new offense we just don't know that yet, but go on and speculate. A QB does not have to be a dual threat to go up tempo. If Brewer turns out to be a good QB I'm guessing the coaches will modify our offense to meet his abilities as part of an attack that fits in with the rest of the talent. A good coach will "dance with the ones they brung". But then that's just speculation.

    This post was edited by cohorn on 3/2/2013 at 3:36 PM

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