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Inside the Team: Practice No. 4 -- Lots of notes from Wed.

  • Hookem89 said...

    I agree with you. Case screws over the team and makes national headlines and he is back getting his reps. They both showed poor judgement yet Brewer is still being punished.

    Wouldn't be the first time Mack played favorites, cronyism is his forte.

    Hoop98

  • Sounds like our G-C-G combination is still not capable of knocking DTs off the LOS, and our DEs and backup DTs are still having trouble getting off blocks. All the media blather about Ash's progress becomes extraneous if our linemen on both sides of the ball can't overcome these core deficiencies.

    detly wepun

  • Has Hicks ever been considered for the MLB position? I'm not sure of the skill set needed for that positions, but I would think that a Jinkens, Hicks, and Jackson lineup looks real good...

    LonghornMando25

  • I don't believe much from practice reports but I will make the following comments.

    1. I have no expectation for the OL being any better than we've seen the past five years.

    2. The defense will be more similar to last year than 2011. It will be painful to watch.

    3. Bryant Jackson is DeSean Hales redux.

    4. Malcolm Brown will be hurt before October.

    Still haven't seen/heard anything to make me think this team is better than 8-4 and won't be competing for anything meaningful after Halloween.

    PHLHorn

  • mcb0703 said...

    I'll be honest, this sounds like a spring report from 2012 (Jeff, meant that against this team, not your reporting)...

    Same players injured Same players showing potential Same players having problems

    Same 9-4 season.

    Don't understand how an individually talented OL is consistently struggling against a porous DL.

    NLeininger

  • PHLHorn said...

    I don't believe much from practice reports but I will make the following comments.

    1. I have no expectation for the OL being any better than we've seen the past five years.

    2. The defense will be more similar to last year than 2011. It will be painful to watch.

    3. Bryant Jackson is DeSean Hales redux.

    4. Malcolm Brown will be hurt before October.

    Still haven't seen/heard anything to make me think this team is better than 8-4 and won't be competing for anything meaningful after Halloween.

    Can't really disagree with any of that, only hope is it's 6 months until game 1 so time to improve. Question is if it'll be enough to be good enough to win.

    JohnnyHornBalls

  • I think you need to balance Brewer's punishment with stunting his development. Missing 4 practices is in the area of hurting his development IMO. If you think he might be an answer at QB after Ash, he can't miss many of the limited reps available to the backup QB's.

    I still continue to be stunned we didn't go after a JUCO interior OL. Dom and Walters should both be backups.

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    MartiMar

  • PHLHorn said...

    I don't believe much from practice reports but I will make the following comments.

    1. I have no expectation for the OL being any better than we've seen the past five years.

    2. The defense will be more similar to last year than 2011. It will be painful to watch.

    3. Bryant Jackson is DeSean Hales redux.

    4. Malcolm Brown will be hurt before October.

    Still haven't seen/heard anything to make me think this team is better than 8-4 and won't be competing for anything meaningful after Halloween.

    Our biggest reason to hope for improvement over 9-4 is that Texas will have the most experienced team overall and the most experienced QB in the Big 12, and we won't face a Top Ten opponent. It's the kind of situation where Mack Brown has the chance to look like a better coach than he probably really is.

    detly wepun

  • PHLHorn said...

    I don't believe much from practice reports but I will make the following comments.

    1. I have no expectation for the OL being any better than we've seen the past five years.

    2. The defense will be more similar to last year than 2011. It will be painful to watch.

    3. Bryant Jackson is DeSean Hales redux.

    4. Malcolm Brown will be hurt before October.

    Still haven't seen/heard anything to make me think this team is better than 8-4 and won't be competing for anything meaningful after Halloween.

    would love to disagree with you on 1,2 and 4 but can't. I think Bryant Jackson performed when he got the opportunity which can't be said about Hales. JMO

    churchill

  • cmhoover said...

    Why not? Not enough info here to make it official? Not trying to be obnoxious here but that's not much of an answer.

    Is this really worthy of an FBI level investigation/interrogation?

    rozell99

  • NLeininger said...

    Same 9-4 season.

    Don't understand how an individually talented OL is consistently struggling against a porous DL.

    Do you really think this OL is "individually" talented?

    I'd say they're ok, but they're not special. No five stars except Walters and that was prior to his second foot injury. And he's just nowhere near the same player.

    I just think it's a decent OL, not great. Could be 2-3 play in the pros but not starters. Just my take.

    This post was edited by BobbyBurton on 2/28/2013 at 10:05 AM

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  • rozell99 said...

    Is this really worthy of an FBI level investigation/interrogation?

    Stop jingling and jangling the spurs, Lash LaRue. It's been settled

    JohnnyHornBalls

  • MartiMar said...

    I think you need to balance Brewer's punishment with stunting his development. Missing 4 practices is in the area of hurting his development IMO. If you think he might be an answer at QB after Ash, he can't miss many of the limited reps available to the backup QB's.

    I still continue to be stunned we didn't go after a JUCO interior OL. Dom and Walters should both be backups.

    I'm just going to have to disagree with you guys here. He's not missing practices. He's there, he's learning, etc. He's just not seeing as many reps as others from what we are told.

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  • LonghornMando25 said...

    Has Hicks ever been considered for the MLB position? I'm not sure of the skill set needed for that positions, but I would think that a Jinkens, Hicks, and Jackson lineup looks real good...

    Muschamp tried him there early and decided against it ultimately.

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    Do you really think this OL is "individually" talented?

    I'd say they're ok, but they're not special. No five stars except Walters and that was prior to his second foot injury. And he's just nowhere near the same player.

    I just think it's a decent OL, not great. Could be 2-3 play in the pros but not starters. Just my take.

    Excluding the OL that never play, the rest are all 4 stars are better according to every site including yours. Most came from the Top 200 composite players in the country. So I think yes, individually the OL is talented, but for whatever reason they have not developed individually or together.

    NLeininger

  • NLeininger said...

    Same 9-4 season.

    Don't understand how an individually talented OL is consistently struggling against a porous DL.

    Porous mainly because of scheme. There are at least two NFL caliber talents in that DL group. I just don't get Diaz trying to use this BS system when there are proven ones that actually work.

    rozell99

  • detly wepun said...

    Sounds like our G-C-G combination is still not capable of knocking DTs off the LOS, and our DEs and backup DTs are still having trouble getting off blocks. All the media blather about Ash's progress becomes extraneous if our linemen on both sides of the ball can't overcome these core deficiencies.

    I think the Walters-Espinosa combo on the OL and the lack of being able to hold a point of attack at DT are the two biggest problems facing the team up front. I don't know that either of those will ever get "fixed" in 2013 no matter what anyone does.

    The bottom line is outside of Malcom Brown, every other defensive tackle looked like he was on roller skates when they were stunting, completely unable to shed and anchor. Completely.

    Walters just plays too high IMO. Espinosa is ok against quicker guys but can be pushed around too easily by bigger guys who also have some quickness. Casey Walker, for instance, gave him a lot of issues as did the TCU DT.

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  • The O line, particularly at center is what stands out as a concern for me from this report. That position has to improve this year or we could be looking at a repeat performance from last season in terms of our ability to run the ball when things aren't clicking in the passing game. Not sure what to think about Ash, except it seems to me that he has a confidence problem at times. You could argue that he definitely warranted a pass his freshman year and to some extent last season, but now there is no excuse. He's got to take command out there and seize the opportunity he has now been given to run that unit. Things aren't always going to go the way you want them too in the game and it's during those adverse situations where he has to be able to come out of it and lead his team to victory. I thought in the second half of the Alamo bowl he did that. It's still very early, but let's hope things improve, especially at O line as we move forward. We can ill afford to have the kind of inconsistency at that position next season.The same can be said for our linebackers. The lightbulb has got to turn on at some point you would hope.

    On a positive note, it was great to hear the secondary report with respect to guys picking it up and back-up’s really making a run for a spot on the first team. We’ll need that kind of competition after losing KV. Good to hear that Malcolm Brown is full speed ahead and healthy. I really think we could be very explosive this year in the backfield as long as the O line does its part. The up tempo should help in that regard.

    This post was edited by txhookem78 on 2/28/2013 at 10:12 AM

    txhookem78

  • JohnnyHornBalls said...

    Stop jingling and jangling the spurs, Lash LaRue. It's been settled

    Just catching up. Sorry.

    rozell99

  • NLeininger said...

    Excluding the OL that never play, the rest are all 4 stars are better according to every site including yours. Most came from the Top 200 composite players in the country. So I think yes, individually the OL is talented, but for whatever reason they have not developed individually or together.

    Meh. We disagree. I think it's not overly talented.

    I don't see a first rounder on the current OL with the possible exception of Kennedy Estelle but he's young and he's already had a major injury for an OT.

    What's more, I don't see a second or even third rounder in it either.

    If you do, let me know who. Maybe Hawkins as a guard?

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    Meh. We disagree. I think it's not overly talented.

    I don't see a first rounder on the current OL with the possible exception of Kennedy Estelle but he's young and he's already had a major injury for an OT.

    What's more, I don't see a second or even third rounder in it either.

    If you do, let me know who. Maybe Hawkins as a guard?

    That's development and it's been poor going on 6 years now. I'm speaking relative to where they were viewed coming out of high school. Most if not all the 2 deep were viewed highly as prospects coming out of HS. So a lot of people thought they were talented individually.

    NLeininger

  • NLeininger said...

    That's development and it's been poor going on 6 years now. I'm speaking relative to where they were viewed coming out of high school. Most if not all the 2 deep were viewed highly as prospects coming out of HS. So a lot of people thought they were talented individually.

    Where they were as high schoolers is no longer relevant IMO.

    As of where they are today, it's just not an overly talented line individually.

    I'm not trying to pick nits, but I am talking about reality not previous recruiting rankings.

    Bottom line, there are no current high draft picks starting on the Texas OL.

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  • NLeininger said...

    That's development and it's been poor going on 6 years now. I'm speaking relative to where they were viewed coming out of high school. Most if not all the 2 deep were viewed highly as prospects coming out of HS. So a lot of people thought they were talented individually.

    I'm with you it's development. Per 247s own rankings, Cochran was a 150 player, Hopkins was a top 100, Espinosa was a 200, Flowers was a 5 star, Hawkins was a highly rated juco. That strikes me as talent .

    Qpackage

  • BobbyBurton said...

    Muschamp tried him there early and decided against it ultimately.

    In favor of Muckelroy though, not against Santos or Edmond.

    GPie

  • BobbyBurton said...

    Where they were as high schoolers is no longer relevant IMO.

    As of where they are today, it's just not an overly talented line individually.

    I'm not trying to pick nits, but I am talking about reality not previous recruiting rankings.

    Bottom line, there are no current high draft picks starting on the Texas OL.

    These guys were once thought of has talented, or they wouldn't have been recruited by a bunch of quality football schools. Where they are now speaks to the lack of development by the coaches (OL and S&C) as well as the players themselves, but to say they weren't talented at one point would mean your rankings and those of other recruiting sites aren't worth a shit.

    NLeininger