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I find it interesting you mentioned Gundy, Bobby. I never really thought about him being at Texas. Would be interesting. Give him a blank check to hire a defensive coordinator and I think Texas would be in business.

All for Saban, but I don't see it happening. Nor Muschamp, who I am not completely convinced is the guy. Gundy is an interesting idea and Briles simply has not shown the necessary committment to "D" that is necessary. Seems to me he is stuck in the "out score'm" mode. Although, Sumlin was as well prior to going to TAMU. Maybe Briles could/would change. For my money, Patterson is a no-brainer, as long as a quality compliance officer is on board with him.
Bobby, can you expound a little on why you don't see David Shaw on your short list?

Briles or Gundy would be a monumental fvck up imo.

Disagree wholeheartedly. At some point change has value in and of itself. That point was October 13, 2012. We are now well beyond that point.

You are much higher on Briles and Gundy than most, it seems.

I think there are several other worthwhile candidates, in order of desirability:
- Meyer (if your going to include Saban on the list...)
- Shaw
- Strong
- Mora
- Diaco
- Mullen
- Doeren
- Smart
- Chavis
- Fitzgerald
- Franklin

Notre Dame doesn't recruit Texas? LSU doesn't recruit Texas? What are Saban's ties to Texas? Briles is a proven winner? Of what? Without RGIII is he on Burton's list? Doubt it. Did Florida care about the "ties to the state" or "small school/commuter school" nonsense when they hired Urban Meyer? Get real.

But Mack had Royal's blessing because of his Southern ways and knowing he could reconnect with the high school coaches, which he has.

I don't see Saban making too many connections with the Texas HS coaches (not saying he couldn't bring in recruits as he just has to show a couple of rings). I definitely don't see Kelly doing that as he would probably be considered an outsider with his background up in the Midwest and Northeast.

Saban no based on his performance, but I think his arrogance would turn on him with the HS coaches. Do I think he can still get the talent here, yep, at least for awhile. Do I like him and wish him here, yep.

Kelly, I'm not as sure with. I saw what a Midwest head coach can do as a Texas head coach and it wasn't pretty. Kelly ain't no Mackovic, but I would keep it much closer to home.

Saban, like Will and Patterson would have the attention & respect of our hs coaches immediately. When Will went to his first hs coaches convention the hs coaches were immediately sold. They respect knowledge and passion for the profession.

One session of Saban talking DB's or Defense and they would be all in.

Plus his success, history in the relative region (LSU, AL) and no nonsense approach.

I do think having someone from out west or north would be more difficult in the short term.

I agree with you about patterson. A search should start and end with him.

I have a coaching friend who hopes to never send Patterson a recruit again. He thinks Patterson treats the kids like cattle and has no problem backing out on them if something better comes along. He thinks he has no loyalty to the kids that have committed.

Big difference between starter and a kid that got left behind.

This.