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mcb0703 said...
Again from Broussard during the Heat-BOS series...Boston mgmt wants to get younger & more athletic...KG & Allen will not be back opening ALOT of cap space
Broussard's contention was that if KG & Allen aren't gonna be back, & if BOS could trade Rondo for another PG & draft picks, then it only makes sense to add multiple, athletic players...Broussard said this would "probably" be reviewed again after the playoffs heading toward the draft, possibly a "draft day deal"
BOS making this trade then puts RW @ PG with Bradley @ SG...if Broussard is right about BOS wanting to become more athletic, then RW/Bradley back-court is definitely more athletic
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mcb0703 said...
Again from Broussard during the Heat-BOS series...Boston mgmt wants to get younger & more athletic...KG & Allen will not be back opening ALOT of cap space
Broussard's contention was that if KG & Allen aren't gonna be back, & if BOS could trade Rondo for another PG & draft picks, then it only makes sense to add multiple, athletic players...Broussard said this would "probably" be reviewed again after the playoffs heading toward the draft, possibly a "draft day deal"
BOS making this trade then puts RW @ PG with Bradley @ SG...if Broussard is right about BOS wanting to become more athletic, then RW/Bradley back-court is definitely more athletic
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Gerry Hamilton said...
Completely different players IMO. Rose is a PG, Westbrook is a selfish two guard moonlighting as a wanna be PG with the best scorer in the NBA on the wing as the focal point of every defense.
Give Rose KD and see what happens.
You can't look at numbers with RW and compare to Rose IMO. Watch how he plays the game - he is nothing like Rose.
OKC has, and will be open to trading RW again. Doesn't mean they will get what they need/desire to make it happen, but they looked/considered it for a real good reason IMO.
Hopefully Westbrook can keep everything in check, wake up on the right side of the bed, for the NBA Finals.
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gordosan said...
I would restate that and say that Westbrook is a selfish PG or a two guard masquerading as a point. Assists define a point guard and Rose has two assists more per game than Westbrook; with a better A/T.O. ratio. Rondo has five more assists per game. That equates to ten plus points in the stat line; but much more than that in team chemistry and movement. Rondo is a bigger, better defender T.J. Ford. Westbrook is a more athletic Daniel Gibson.
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Deep Red said...
I don't know why you and Broussard would think that OKC would give up RW and draft picks. I also don't know why OKC would choose to get less athletic.
My guess is that OKC is happy with RW and his new contract and does not trade him. A good way to lose your job would be to advocate breakIng up a championship team by trading an All NBA player who is 24 years old and under contract for 5 years at less than max.
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Gerry Hamilton said...
Completely different players IMO. Rose is a PG, Westbrook is a selfish two guard moonlighting as a wanna be PG with the best scorer in the NBA on the wing as the focal point of every defense.
Give Rose KD and see what happens.
You can't look at numbers with RW and compare to Rose IMO. Watch how he plays the game - he is nothing like Rose.
OKC has, and will be open to trading RW again. Doesn't mean they will get what they need/desire to make it happen, but they looked/considered it for a real good reason IMO.
Hopefully Westbrook can keep everything in check, wake up on the right side of the bed, for the NBA Finals.
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Deep Red said...
Cool. A player evaluating moment for you. We shall follow Westbrook's career at OKC and see if you have evaluating skills or not.
You surely don't believe that OKC wins any championships with Russ at the PG and the Thunder's backup out all season? We'll see. I bet on the side of the All NBA PG Westbrook winning multiple championships.
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Gerry Hamilton said...
The evaluation is already done man. I didn't have to evaluate anything. RW is a SG playing PG, which isn't natural for him.
He doesn't have PG feel or vision. He doesn't have feel for game/clock situations other than getting his own shot, how and when to ride the hot player without the OKC staff forcing it through half court sets, etc.. That doesn't mean a guy can't improve over time, because anyone can improve through hard work - but a PG isn't made, they have a natural feel about them.
Scott Brooks provides the evaluation for all of us in this instance. Westbrook doesn't see the floor as well as Harden or Durant, and the OKC staff shows everyone this in key situations. That's been seen since they have all been together.
If anyone expects Westbrook to ever play PG to the level of the Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, Rondo types, they should lower their expectations.
That doesn't mean OKC can't win a NBA title, as they have the best roster of youth and talent combined. Westbrook needs to keep everything in check though IMO.
I think everyone looks at RW's play on the court as the lone reason OKC looked to move him, and will very likely look again behind the scenes, but I think it's more what is seen publicly.
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Deep Red said...
Westbrook plays the PG just fine. When you look at the Thunder record this season, they had the better record in games that RW shot more shots than they did when KD shot more shots.
For those saying he is not a PG, that's pretty uneducated considering he is in his 4th year of playing PG. where are all the other PGs? They aren't in the finals. If Tony Parker is as good at PG as they say, why doesn't he have his team in the finals? Could it be that he tried to do to much himself and shot his team out of it?
If everybody says Rondo is so good, where is his team? Could it be that he shot Boston out of it? Made too many bad decisions in 4th Qtrs?
Derrick Rose? His team was supposed to contend, but wasn't he injured much of the year? He wasn't much help to his team. They are sitting at home. Westbrook is the best PG of those guys, he is still playing. He doesn't get injured. Maybe Maynor did, but he's the backup.
RW is a great PG, no question. His stats are hard to match and he has his young team in the finals. A team that many say have a scoring liability at the 4 and 5, yet they are still in the finals. RW has as much as anyone to do with OKCs season this year.
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NLeininger said...
Good f'ing gosh.
Switch Parker and Westbrook and which team in in the finals? It still isn't the Spurs. Hell switch those 2 and the Thunder most likely sweep the Spurs. You don't seem to understand, the Thunder are always going to be Durant's team. In the playoffs alone Westbrook is the 4th best person on his team in terms of Win shares, and this coming when he dominates the ball, as his 30% Usage demonstrates.
Westbrook is a great athlete but is not a PG. The Thunder are so freaking good that his deficiencies at the position are mitigated by being surrounded with 3 guys that are playing great and better basketball.
This post was edited by Deep Red on 6/12/2012 at 1:03 PM
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Deep Red said...
I wouldn't want Parker. He had a chance to get a truly great team with all the necessary parts past a young OKC team with issues at the 4 and 5, but he just didn't do it. Some said he didn't play well in the losses. That's too bad, he's a veteran.
OKCs two time NBA all star PG who was 5th in the league in scoring got his team into the finals though. It's a good thing Westbrook can score because many times the Thunder can't depend on their 4 or 5 scoring. That handicap would sink most teams, but the Thunder counter it with a PG who scores around 25 a game.
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