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The problems are greater than scheme at this point.

I mentioned this in Gerry's Friday Night Games thread but if you want to throw up in your mouth a little bit imagine if Texas had recruited Darron Thomas, Robert Griffin, Russell Shepard and Jamal Turner as QB's and we're running an offense similar to Oregon.

Of course that would take forethought and imagination which I don't think Mack or Davis have much of when it comes to offense.

I might post more in-depth thoughts, but many of the problems (at least offensively) go beyond just this year. The Texas offensive staff made a conscientious decision awhile back to build their offense around pro-style quarterbacks instead of dual threat QBs. I am not just talking Gilbert over Sheppard...but look at every QB we have recruited since VY.

Colt McCoy was a little bit of an anomaly. Was he VY? No, of course not. But he had a limited arm with excellent accuracy and scrambling ability. His skills forced us to keep our offense more spread out to utilize those skills.

Gilberts skills (less mobile with a bigger arm) have now caused us to move back to the pro-style offense, and if we are all being somewhat realistic, the results in that offensive system (Simms, Applewhite, and now Gilbert) were 0 Big 12 titles or BCS wins. All thats to say, I am not sure the offensive woes magically go away after this year. But yes, they should improve with Mike Davis, Darius White, and (if he is who we think he is) Malcolm Brown playing significant minutes in the future.

By the way...I don't think the defense is anywhere near blameless. They were not good today. Thats why having a balanced team (offense and defense that can win you a game) is so important. Last year we win this game 42-28 and everyone chalks it up as Texas sleepwalking the week after a big win at Nebraska and moves on.

Any thoughts?

Hadn't thought about that...scoring early really does play into Muschamp's aggressive style of defense.

Unless it's due to injury, there should not be any player red-shirting for the rest of the season...I don't care if D Cobbs moves back to RB or plays more @ Safety, if T Shead played 1A football last year, or if D Terrell needs to gain weight for a position change...every job should be open starting tomorrow morning, regardless of experience on this team

We need to quit having our coaches find out what to do and find coaches that already know what to do!

None of the guys I mentioned where Pro Style QBs in high school. Your assertion was that Texas went after Pro Style QBs, when they did not until Gilbert.

Of course, Ryan ended up at LSU, but the Texas coaches wanted him to be the heir apparent to VY. McCoy was never really intended to be the starter.

Where the coaching staff made a huge blunder was to whiff on QB in 2008 in order to ensure Gilbert committed, and let 3 good ones get away.

Thats valid...I guess I should have been more detailed in my explanation as opposed to just saying 'pro-style' or 'spread'. So round two...

It seems Texas has gone after pass-first qbs and have gone away guys who are dynamic with their legs. In my opinion, that was a mistake, and it seemed to be a contentious decision by our staff. Of all the guys we recruited, Chiles was the only one I would call 'dynamic' and he was the only one we definitely didn't want to play QB.

It is obviously possible to run a pro-style offense and be wildly successful (Bama right now...USC 5 years ago)...but the Texas offensive staff hasnt shown the ability to run that offense and be successful (the opposite is true). So given that, for Texas, I want a QB who is dynamic with his legs. That might be normally hard to find, but I think its very realistic for a school like Texas.