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Depth chart notes, changes for Oklahoma (some notable moves)

  • I wish they would at least look at Evans more because of his speed. The way people are getting loose on us, we need someone to track them down. He must not be a good practice player or something.
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  • The scheme might be the biggest problem. Still can't believe we are in this situation during the 2nd week of October.

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  • jskipper said...

    I thought it was #11 Jackson.

    You are correct. My bad

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  • chupita said...

    Well, that said... didn't Bergeron miss a game earlier due to "injury"?

    Yes but for some reason there is an unhealthy affection towards Bergeron that I can't explain.

    maninblack1

  • maninblack1 said...

    Yes but for some reason there is an unhealthy affection towards Bergeron that I can't explain.

    Major taking out his frustrations from a decade ago.

    Note: this is sarcasm

    This post was edited by WildBill71 on 10/8/2012 at 3:07 PM

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  • Yes, he's starting the taller guy who doesn't perform as well but looks better in uniform.

    TexasBlackjack

  • chupita said...

    Well, that said... didn't Bergeron miss a game earlier due to "injury"?

    This year no, last year yes. But Bergeron can do no wrong I guess. He's just too slow to play tailback and his 2.7 ypc against WVU is the proof. Hopefully Brown is back soon.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by ShinerRyan on 10/8/2012 at 6:12 PM

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  • TexasBlackjack said...

    Yes, he's starting the taller guy who doesn't perform as well but looks better in uniform.

    Or starting the less recruited guy that is described as gutsy, tough, blue-collar, hard worker, etc. over the guy that came in with all the accolades.

    It was a joke, though.

    WildBill71

  • maninblack1 said...

    Yes but for some reason there is an unhealthy affection towards Bergeron that I can't explain.

    I agree... I don't understand that either. We need to work him in as a FB.

    chupita

  • ShinerRyan said...

    This year no, last year yes. But Bergeron can do no wrong I guess. He's just too slow to play tailback and his 2.7 ypc against WVU is the proof. Hopefully Brown is back soon.

    Actually, yes... he did miss a game already this year. And, I agree with you.

    Brown is our best - Brown and Gray are our 5* studs (Thunder and lightning), let Bergeron play with both of them and still get 8 to 10 carres per game with receptions. He's a great talent and will be an amazing FB option.

    chupita

  • jskipper said...

    I thought it was #11 Jackson.

    I thought it was Jackson as well.

    Thompson will become progressively better as he gets real game reps. We're going to have growing pains; but Phillips simply isnt getting it done. His shoulder may still be an issue; despite someone claiming that all shoulder surgeries are a success. We need to remember; Thompson should be a red-shirt freshman this year. He was a QB in high school, not a safety. The staff wasted a year by not red-shirting him.

    gordosan

  • Bergeron can be a very good back; at fullback. He is Ivan Williams redux, hopefully with the quadraceps tendon injury.

    gordosan

  • i agree that having Brown third on depth chart at RB is supposed to motivate him.

    Endust

  • texassborn said...

    +1 i agree man....bergeron just doesnt burst to the hole is very slow! He's big and strong but his 2 yard runs just arent getting it done(even if he sprinkles a 10 yard carry here and there). And for the Second straight week we got GAPPED on the left side. Back-up gets 200? Sorry..i said i was gonna let it go! frustrated

    You have that and you have a lack of offensive tackles. Difficulty running between the "Tackles"-Guards.

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  • gordosan said...

    Bergeron can be a very good back; at fullback. He is Ivan Williams redux, hopefully with the quadraceps tendon injury.

    with? or w/o?

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  • w/o. Sorry

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  • chupita said...

    Well, that said... didn't Bergeron miss a game earlier due to "injury"?

    No, with the Bye, his Shoulder injury, he was cleared by the Medical staff to play against OStU.

    College Confidential: Bergeron cleared to play for Longhorns

    Texas Longhorns starting tailback Joe Bergeron is progressing from a shoulder injury and will play against Oklahoma State on Saturday. Bergeron injured his shoulder in the second half of UT's 66-31 win against Mississippi on Sept. 15. He did not...

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  • The way this defense has played, looks like it should have been Manny Diaz that was moved to the 2nd team.

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  • I'm not sure why our DB's are struggling so much this year. It has always been one of our strengths. To me, it's about scheme and responsibilities within, and somehow these guys are just not getting it this year.

    Phillips struggles surprises me more than anyone. He has just been lost out there at times.

    Diaz needs to take a hard look at what he's doing and what he can do to get this defense to perform. He's got the talent, but he's got to figure out how to maximize that talent.

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  • Do we know the extent of M. Brown's injury?

    And let's not forget Brown had supplanted Beegeron as the starter before getting injured. I think when Brown is healthy, he'll take away more of Berg's carries than Gray's.

    ThornyHorn

  • Racer X said...

    Rolling another converted high school QB to Strong Safety and expecting him to have the instincts of a Safety? I guess we'll see.

    I didn't see it very well from my seats, but wasn't Thompson the guy who blew coverage on the play where the WVU RB caught a TD pass only to trip over the 20-yard line and save us 4 points? I know Thompson dropped an INT that resulted in points as well. And this is our big defensive upgrade for OU week. I'd much prefer L.Scott or S.Evans. At least we know instincts and the hitting that goes along with being a Safety won't be an issue.

    It was Tevin Jackson who blew the coverage.
    As long as we stunt ourselves into being out of the play, we are dead.
    I agree with those who think K. Vacarro should be playing ss.
    I also think C. Byndom is getting beat like a drum every Saturday.
    Benching Phillips is long overdue; he plays like he is still hurting from the shoulder surgery: I think S. Evans should be given a chance in the cb slot opposite Diggs, as no sane OC is going to attack Quandre very much.

    docfarmerdds

  • Endust said...

    i agree that having Brown third on depth chart at RB is supposed to motivate him.

    You don't motivate an injured player by calling them out or benching them. I think you are seeing the effect of playing an injured player with the play of Phillips too soon after his shoulder surgery. Ditto for A Fera and his groin tear.
    M Brown and J Hicks should only play if they are game ready. Playing them injured is not very bright.

    docfarmerdds

  • Fran the Italian Jesus said...

    M. Thompson was in a position to make a couple plays the other night and was unable to come up with them.

    I actually like the move and enjoyed watching him play the other night.

    agreed, i actually seen the ball hit Thompson's hands multiple times that game, while the only time i noticed Phillips by the ball was when he let Bailey cross right in front of his face in the endzone

    roc4roc

  • AvidFan1 said...

    I'm not sure why our DB's are struggling so much this year. It has always been one of our strengths. To me, it's about scheme and responsibilities within, and somehow these guys are just not getting it this year.

    Phillips struggles surprises me more than anyone. He has just been lost out there at times.

    Diaz needs to take a hard look at what he's doing and what he can do to get this defense to perform. He's got the talent, but he's got to figure out how to maximize that talent.

    In the secondary, I think you have to look at the individual pieces.

    I think Byndom is not having a good year. He's lost a little bit of that edge he was carrying with him last year. The chip on the shoulder isn't there IMO.

    With Phillips, I think it's clear that he's not an instinctual deep safety. He's more of a physical corner or guy who covers the slot underneath. He's best when he's directly engaged, not playing centerfield and trying to out-think the opponent.

    Vaccaro and Diggs are playing very well. Vaccaro has missed some tackles but I don't see it as a big deal compared to other issues.

    Behind Phillips, you have Mykkele Thompson and Josh Turner. Thompson has had recognition issues but has terrific speed. Turner is excellent in recognition but lacks outright speed. All three have been spotty tacklers at times.

    The primary problem in the secondary is that Texas has no obvious choice at middle field//deep safety.

    Vaccaro hasn't played it in his career. They tried Sheroid Evans there and felt like he was better at corner.

    They've never trained Diggs or Byndom there, both of whom might be plausible answers. So it's nearly impossible to ask Diggs or Byndom to do something like that in mid-season.

    I think Byndom still gets beat by Donte Moncrief and Steadman Bailey multiple times, but I think he looks better on the whole if he has a better middle field safety.

    This post was edited by BobbyBurton on 10/9/2012 at 9:41 AM

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    In the secondary, I think you have to look at the individual pieces.

    I think Byndom is not having a good year. He's lost a little bit of that edge he was carrying with him last year. The chip on the shoulder isn't there IMO.

    With Phillips, I think it's clear that he's not an instinctual deep safety. He's more of a physical corner or guy who covers the slot underneath. He's best when he's directly engaged, not playing centerfield and trying to out-think the opponent.

    Vaccaro and Diggs are playing very well. Vaccaro has missed some tackles but I don't see it as a big deal compared to other issues.

    Behind Phillips, you have Mykkele Thompson and Josh Turner. Thompson has had recognition issues but has terrific speed. Turner is excellent in recognition but lacks outright speed. All three have been spotty tacklers at times.

    The primary problem in the secondary is that Texas has no obvious choice at middle field//deep safety.

    Vaccaro hasn't played it in his career. They tried Sheroid Evans there and felt like he was better at corner.

    They've never trained Diggs or Byndom there, both of whom might be plausible answers. So it's nearly impossible to ask Diggs or Byndom to do something like that in mid-season.

    I think Byndom still gets beat by Donte Moncrief and Steadman Bailey multiple times, but I think he looks better on the whole if he has a better middle field safety.

    Thanks for the analysis. I'm no defensive expert so appreciate the education. Do you think Phillips might get some of Byndom's time at corner?

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