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Dennis Dodd on Big 12 realignment

  • Pretty good read.

    Big 12's born again -- and feeling its oats sitting at 10, 12 or 14 - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Schedule and BCS Rankings

    After Texas A&M and Missouri bolted and Texas and Oklahoma eyed the Pac-12, the Big 12 was on the ropes. But as the league meets, Dennis Dodd says it has re-emerged as a power player with big cards still to play.

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  • Line of the year...

    "We're there, we're back, we're it, we're as strong as anybody else," Dodds said. "Let's move on."

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  • Wake me up when something significant actually happens with the Big 12 and realignment. The endless hypotheticals are a bit overkill, IMO.

    Heisenberg

  • Heisenberg said...

    Wake me up when something significant actually happens with the Big 12 and realignment. The endless hypotheticals are a bit overkill, IMO.

    I concur.

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  • The SEC-Big12 "Champions Bowl" is the classic case of an oxymoron. Seriously, what are the chances that the Big12 and SEC champion will ever meet in that game. More than likely, it will be the Big12 Champion against the SEC number 2, SEC Champion against Big12 number 2, or most likely of all the Big12 number 2 against the SEC number 2. If the Big12 and SEC champions ever meet in that game, it means that both conferences have fallen on hard times.

    aggiecutter

  • Every one of these articles that you see is riddled with the words "could" and "might." It's not news. It's speculation. Unfortunately, it's presented as news, and that get's people excited. Then, when nothing happens, they get angry.

    (Hey, I think I might have the premise for one of those DirecTV commercials.)

    texaztom

  • Interesting how Dodds always uses Dodd as one of his media monkeys to project his powerful image and agenda biggrin

    MackRickAugie

  • aggiecutter said...

    The SEC-Big12 "Champions Bowl" is the classic case of an oxymoron. Seriously, what are the chances that the Big12 and SEC champion will ever meet in that game. More than likely, it will be the Big12 Champion against the SEC number 2, SEC Champion against Big12 number 2, or most likely of all the Big12 number 2 against the SEC number 2. If the Big12 and SEC champions ever meet in that game, it means that both conferences have fallen on hard times.

    Yeah, it should be called the "Consolation Bowl."

    BubbaJacques27

  • "As a Texas-ex and massive Longhorn fan, I think of everything through a burnt orange lens. I think you could put a gun to the head of DeLoss Dodds and he still wouldn't sign a deal saying that Texas is fine without receiving a penny more in TV revenue if the Big 12 were to add Notre Dame. The only reason Texas is courting Notre Dame is because it would be a financial windfall for Texas. The only reason Texas does anything is to make more money for Texas, and this is how it should be."

    Tuxedo Yoda: Dennis Dodd accidentally makes the twitterverse go bananas

    http://tuxedoyoda.blogspot.com/2012/05/dennis-dodd-accidentally-makes.html

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  • aggiecutter said...

    The SEC-Big12 "Champions Bowl" is the classic case of an oxymoron. Seriously, what are the chances that the Big12 and SEC champion will ever meet in that game. More than likely, it will be the Big12 Champion against the SEC number 2, SEC Champion against Big12 number 2, or most likely of all the Big12 number 2 against the SEC number 2. If the Big12 and SEC champions ever meet in that game, it means that both conferences have fallen on hard times.

    That is very short sighted.

    It is obvious the Big 12 and SEC want the champions to be in that bowl if they are going to sell it outside the BCS direct to the networks. The Champions Bowl could be the leverage used to break the back of the BCS and/or the bowl system. Don't think that the conferences are going to lie down while they lose money going to bowls because someone has to fund the chairman's scrip club tab.

    The Champions Bowl is the most interesting thing to happen to the bowl system in 20 years.

    El General

  • Heisenberg said...

    Wake me up when something significant actually happens with the Big 12 and realignment. The endless hypotheticals are a bit overkill, IMO.

    This 100%.

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    Texasmdcoach

  • El General said...

    That is very short sighted.

    It is obvious the Big 12 and SEC want the champions to be in that bowl if they are going to sell it outside the BCS direct to the networks. The Champions Bowl could be the leverage used to break the back of the BCS and/or the bowl system. Don't think that the conferences are going to lie down while they lose money going to bowls because someone has to fund the chairman's scrip club tab.

    The Champions Bowl is the most interesting thing to happen to the bowl system in 20 years.

    You get it.

    CelinaHorn

  • HookemDTX said...

    "As a Texas-ex and massive Longhorn fan, I think of everything through a burnt orange lens. I think you could put a gun to the head of DeLoss Dodds and he still wouldn't sign a deal saying that Texas is fine without receiving a penny more in TV revenue if the Big 12 were to add Notre Dame. The only reason Texas is courting Notre Dame is because it would be a financial windfall for Texas. The only reason Texas does anything is to make more money for Texas, and this is how it should be."

    No, it is not as it should be. It is exactly backwards. The only reason Texas should do anything in athletics is to win championships and you win championships by setting championships as the standard that matters most. You win championships by creating a mindset that UT is going to be the home of champions and you adopt a willingness to take on all comers rather than cower behind "easy routes" that never work and suppressing competition within the conference. If you win a lot of championships, you will make a lot more money than you ever will placing money first and championships somewhere down the priority list.

    UT has been making lot of money for a lot of years but winning championships at a 15% rate under Mack Brown. Even if making money is all that matters to you, winning a lot of championships is the only way to maximize making money. The reality is that UT has been leaving a lot of money on the table because it does not demand consistent championship performance in football or basketball. That lost money could be invested in raising UT's academic standing to a much higher level to the benefit of all UT alums.

    If you do not believe this, just look at the state of Alabama where the last 3 MNC's have been won in a state that has a tiny fraction of the people and the resources as the State of Texas. The difference in Alabama is that championships really matter and winning them often raises the enthusiasm of the potential fan base thus increasing the TV ratings and ancillary revenues. The UT fan base would explode if UT started winning championships consistently.

    Step one in a change of philosophy to a championship mentality is adding FSU and Clemson and making the conference and its TV footprint as strong as possible without adversely affecting the path to the MNC in any material way. There is not a real UT fan who would not welcome these additions and it would create enthusiasm in the fan base, the media and in the minds of the players and potential recruits. It would also being the perfect ending to the aggy implosion.

    InsightTexas

  • BobbyBurton said...

    I concur.

    The problem with this mindset is that nothing is likely to happen for the better if the UT fan base remains asleep.

    InsightTexas

  • El General said...

    That is very short sighted.

    It is obvious the Big 12 and SEC want the champions to be in that bowl if they are going to sell it outside the BCS direct to the networks. The Champions Bowl could be the leverage used to break the back of the BCS and/or the bowl system. Don't think that the conferences are going to lie down while they lose money going to bowls because someone has to fund the chairman's scrip club tab.

    The Champions Bowl is the most interesting thing to happen to the bowl system in 20 years.

    If busting up the BCS/bowl system is their primary goal, then do something really bold and say the SEC and Big12 champion will meet in the Champions bowl, without any qualifiers attached. That would be really bold, but it's not going to happen.

    As far as leverage is concerned, they have none because of point one. And, as long as the qualifiers are attached to the participants of the game, they will have none. Do you really think a network is going to pay a premium for a game that is most likely to feature the second best teams in each league. That is nothing more than what one now sees in the Cotton Bowl on a yearly basis.

    The only thing that will change the current BCS/bowl system are super-conferences and a true playoff system.

    aggiecutter

  • I am sick and tired of Deloss Dodds and the rest of our leadership focused on money, money, money....

    81horn

  • InsightTexas said...

    The problem with this mindset is that nothing is likely to happen for the better if the UT fan base remains asleep.

    What do you expect UT fans to accomplish here?

    “Kansas may wind up number one in these polls, but that would be so unfair to Texas...” -- Len Elmore, 2/13/11

    Bob in Houston

  • Heisenberg said...

    Wake me up when something significant actually happens with the Big 12 and realignment. The endless hypotheticals are a bit overkill, IMO.

    Couldn't agree more.

    And no offense to you papa, but that article was the same yada, yada, yada we've been reading for the last couple weeks - nothing new.

    BuckHorn

  • aggiecutter said...

    If busting up the BCS/bowl system is their primary goal, then do something really bold and say the SEC and Big12 champion will meet in the Champions bowl, without any qualifiers attached. That would be really bold, but it's not going to happen.

    As far as leverage is concerned, they have none because of point one. And, as long as the qualifiers are attached to the participants of the game, they will have none. Do you really think a network is going to pay a premium for a game that is most likely to feature the second best teams in each league. That is nothing more than what one now sees in the Cotton Bowl on a yearly basis.

    The only thing that will change the current BCS/bowl system are super-conferences and a true playoff system.

    They have a contractual obligation to the BCS through 2014. They are not fools. They arrange this for leverage no matter what the next form of the BCS/Playoffs/Bowl system is. This is the first bowl owned by conferences. If you can't see why this is a game changer, I can't help you.

    El General

  • El General said...

    They have a contractual obligation to the BCS through 2014. They are not fools. They arrange this for leverage no matter what the next form of the BCS/Playoffs/Bowl system is. This is the first bowl owned by conferences. If you can't see why this is a game changer, I can't help you.

    I can see it clearly. They have about as much leverage as the longhorn network, which has been a smashing failure. Remember, the longhorn network was supposed to be a revolutionary game changer in college athletics. The net effect of the longhorn network is that Joe fan won't be able to see 2-3 football games this fall. The powers that be at ESPN and Texas grossly over played their hand. They thought the major cable and satellite providers would succumb to fan pressure and carry the network. It didn't happen.

    The only thing that will be a true game changer is when the major conferences realign and there is a true playoff system. Until all the major conferences are on the same page, nothing of note will happen in the bowl structure, BCS or no BCS. Two conferences owning a bowl is not going to be enough to change the landscape of the bowl system. It's kind of like when the USFL thought they would challenge the NFL. Despite having marquee talents like Herschel Walker, they folded like a tent in no time. True leverage will only come when everyone is on the same page.

    aggiecutter