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Could be A LOT MORE to the Sandusky Situation

  • I bet this is only the beginning...

    Questions on Sandusky Wrapped in 2005 Gricar Mystery - NYTimes.com

    The district attorney who looked into the sex-abuse case against Jerry Sandusky in 1998 went missing in 2005 and has been declared dead.

    www.nytimes.com

    Willow01

  • Interesing... Doubtful anything comes of it, but there are definitely some oddities in play.

    BhamHorn

  • You can bet this story will become a movie at some point. There are many sub-plots to this story. In addition anybody wonder why this all comes to light just a few day after Joe Pa secures the record for most wins in college football history. Is the timing just a coincident?

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    austinr

  • I get a feeling that Schultz or Curley is going to flip and start giving out all the names and involvement on everyone who participated in the coverup including the most powerful man at Penn State.

    Hookem89

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    mcwast

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I

    Willow01

  • Saw this on Twitter via Dan Bernstein:

    "FYI: names are being (cross)checked with Sandusky's Second Mile, and there are other older adult men with "curious" relationships. Only the start."

    Sadly, not surprising.

    VillageHorn

  • VillageHorn said...

    Saw this on Twitter via Dan Bernstein:

    "FYI: names are being (cross)checked with Sandusky's Second Mile, and there are other older adult men with "curious" relationships. Only the start."

    Sadly, not surprising.

    Damn.

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  • VillageHorn said...

    Saw this on Twitter via Dan Bernstein:

    "FYI: names are being (cross)checked with Sandusky's Second Mile, and there are other older adult men with "curious" relationships. Only the start."

    Sadly, not surprising.

    just sad

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  • I have read that Sandusky started Second Mile in the late 70's. If he is a pedophile he did not just become one in the mid 90's. Hard to believe that Sandusky wasn't found out sooner.

    okhornfan

  • Without a doubt he was......complaints actually filed with police go back to 1994 the grand jury file stated.

    Detectives were always told to drop things.

    This is going to get real bad for a lot of people up there.

    Willow01

  • After watching that video clip, it's seems like they are a cult. I can understand supporting/loving your coach, but it is like he is a God up there to those people. This will not end well for those that broke the law, as well as for their followership.

    Flounder32

  • Flounder32 said...

    After watching that video clip, it's seems like they are a cult. I can understand supporting/loving your coach, but it is like he is a God up there to those people. This will not end well for those that broke the law, as well as for their followership.

    Ohio State students marched to Jim Tressel's house in his support after he was found to be a liar to the NCAA and the university. Exuberance doesn't equal intelligence or understanding.

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  • The word fanatic doesn't describe most fans these days.......it describes stupid and souless people that follow cult type leaders because of their thirst for entertainment.

    Maybe, just maybe when more of this comes out many of these people will wake up disgusted and have the feeling of being robbed. Joe Paterno's legacy and everything it stood for was nothing but a charade.

    Willow01

  • From the evidence I just don't see how Paterno didn't know what was going on with Sandusky, and he let him keep an office and stay around the program even after he retired.

    Two things I was thinking about: 1) Paterno defenders say "well he took the info to his superiors" and I say at PSU Paterno has no superiors. He's an 83 yr old coach of a major D1 program and that's embarrassing. They've been wanting him gone for over a decade and he's just laughed at them. If anyone was in a position to smash this thing from the start it was him.

    2) How is the GA not getting a bad rep? He physically saw this and did nothing to ensure it stops. He didn't rush in and get the kid out and confront Sandusky. He didn't follow up and ensure police were notified and something was done to Sandusky. How many of us would see this and the end result wouldn't be Sandusky taking a chair to the head and the kid gets taken out of the situation?

    JumpingTheGun

  • Willow01 said...

    The word fanatic doesn't describe most fans these days.......it describes stupid and souless people that follow cult type leaders because of their thirst for entertainment.

    Maybe, just maybe when more of this comes out many of these people will wake up disgusted and have the feeling of being robbed. Joe Paterno's legacy and everything it stood for was nothing but a charade.

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  • okhornfan said...

    I have read that Sandusky started Second Mile in the late 70's. If he is a pedophile he did not just become one in the mid 90's. Hard to believe that Sandusky wasn't found out sooner.

    Castrate him!

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  • I hope they take everyone down that was involved or turned a blind eye to this incident. Better yet, try them in Texas. That'll expedite the pending punishment from our Maker. Though living with the thoughts of doing nothing to help innocent boys as they were assaulted and sodomized by homosexual predators maybe far worse that any capital punishment that our legal arms could assess. How could you coach for 9 years after doing nothing? Inconceivable to me.

    Rriggan

  • Report: Three men claim they were abused by Sandusky in '70s, '80s

    Police are aware of three men who say they were abused in the 1970s or 1980s by former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky, CNN contributor Sara Ganim reports for the Harrisburg Patriot News. The allegations are the first to involve claims of abuse by the coach before the 1990s.

    on.cnn.com
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  • From the story linked by the OP:

    "Months later, the laptop was found in the Susquehanna River without its hard drive, which was discovered later. It was too damaged to yield any information. On the fourth anniversary of his disappearance, investigators revealed that a search of his home computer yielded a history of Internet searches for phrases like “how to wreck a hard drive,” according to a report at the time in The Centre Daily Times."

    bierce

  • VillageHorn said...

    Saw this on Twitter via Dan Bernstein:

    "FYI: names are being (cross)checked with Sandusky's Second Mile, and there are other older adult men with "curious" relationships. Only the start."

    Sadly, not surprising.

    Second Mile is becoming more and more like a sad sick pathetic front for NAMBLA. Personally hope they put anyone involved in jail and keep them in gen pop. See how long they last.

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  • BobbyBurton said...

    Ohio State students marched to Jim Tressel's house in his support after he was found to be a liar to the NCAA and the university. Exuberance doesn't equal intelligence or understanding.

    Truer words have never been spoken....

    81horn

  • It really doesn't seem like there's any connection between the Gricar disappearance and Sandusky, but it is an interesting story.

    This post was edited by bigdukesix on 7/16/2012 at 4:37 PM

    bigdukesix

  • http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48184556/?ocid=ansmsnbc11

    Another case of child abuse by a priest in Pennsylvania. What seems to problem over there? Must have to do with a very cancerous culture.

    Like everyone, I am flawed by the monstrous behavior of this person but it seems to be a way of life there. It is a suspension of disbelief to accept that he did not abuse children from the 70s to 90s? The man did not suddenly decide to start in the 90s after maintaining a "kiddie ranch" for nigh 20 years. Someone covered for him during that period as well.

    To really cut out the cancer, they have to investigate the entirety of his association with children including the mouse trap "kiddie ranch" he created to lure them. Authorities there should expand the scope of fact finding to include talking to every young person that visited the place. What about people who managed the children on a regular basis? Why did they not notice anything? They need to do a major exhaustive excavation of this whole sordid mess. Who knew what when? It needs to involve the entire community. How can a monster of this magnitude carry-on this life and hide in plain site for nigh 30 years? Not possible unless a lot of people looked the other way. Accepted it as a way of life in which case a lot more people are involved in the practice.

    He was not that important of a coach--a DC--that they would bend everything to suit him. Not saying DCs are not important.

    Who else in the school was involved in the behavior? They refused to annoint him as heir-apparent for a reason. What was the reason? Why did the school give him a nice parachute when he retired? Why did he retire so young? Finally they can apply coercive means to compel confession. Use anything they can--his wife included. How in the world did she not know her husband was abusing children when their adopted son has come out and confessed that he also was a victim of his abuse? Again not possible.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by horn4life1 on 7/16/2012 at 5:58 PM

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  • bigdukesix said...

    It really doesn't seem like there's any connection between the Gricar disappearance and Sandusky, but it is an interesting story.

    How do you reach that conclusion when you have absolutely no idea of the information that is out there? May not be a connnection, but investigations aren't concluded off what's put in a news article. The timing of his disappearance at the time he was investigating this is strange. At first he said he was investigating. Then he indicated he was calling it off. Not long after that he disappears. There are rumors of Sandusky's Second Mile connections with very wealthy, highly influencial men who shared an interest in boys. People in that league have the money and power to end investigations that could end up in prosecution for them. My bet is that this NAMBLA type organization, the Second Mile, reached into the darkest of places you can imagine and involved powerful men that simply could not afford to be exposed. Now, the FBI is getting involved because of connections via emails to and from Sandusky crossing state lines. Somehow, I bet they delve a little deeper.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by TexasBlackjack on 7/17/2012 at 4:13 PM

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