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Could ACC add four Big 12 teams?

  • http://texas.247sports.com/Article/Could-ACC-add-four-Big-12-teams-39996

    Sources have indicated the Longhorns could head east with a few unexpected Big 12 brethren

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    Alan Trubow

  • UT to the ACC would be a hall of fame level piece of stupidity.

    RealityBased

  • maninblack1

  • I'm not agreeing that it's a great idea. I'm just trying to stay on top of where the story is.

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    Alan Trubow

  • Ugh.

    Socal resident still keeping my fingers crossed for the Pac-12.

    alphahydro

  • Alan Trubow said...

    I'm not agreeing that it's a great idea. I'm just trying to stay on top of where the story is.

    I appreciate that Alan. Just don't turn into the mouthpiece for Bellmont that the competition has become.

    maninblack1

  • I actually like the ACC more than the PAC 12, I think top to bottom it is a better conference for football.

    easttxhorn

  • That would put a halt on the Big East wanting to expand to 20 teams for Basketball... They want the Kansas schools, Missouri, and Iowa State. I guess they could take ISU and K-State.

    We need to help find Baylor a home so they have nothing to sue about. I still think A&M should try bringing Baylor with them to the SEC. Give the SEC 14 teams and stop the law suit from happening.

    I think the ACC would be great for our three major sports: Football, Basketball (amazing for Basketball), and Baseball.

    Football would be the weakest, but we could have a game every year in Florida. Lets go get some Florida recruits!

    The Pac12 and Big10 would be tough on our football team. I love the Big12, we've always been the 2nd best football conference, but I sure would like to play for more Championships. I think the ACC would provide that. There doesn't seem to be any reason we shouldn't be in the ACC Championship game just about every year.

    LotusHorn

  • Is there ANY support amongst alumni for Texas to the ACC? Seems to me they will have a major revolution if they really try to go through with this. In some regards I feel like it's time for us to get a little more outspoken, however there is still a strong possibility that they're just using this as a negotiation tactic with the Pac12 and B1G.

    Hornographer

  • I prefer the ACC to the Pac-12 as well, especially with 3 Big12 teams with us. It's just easier on travel and tv sets.

    texas1393432

  • To the ACC with Tech, KU and MIZZU? Texas is not about to win the boobie prize in conference realignment while Aggie and OU laugh at us. No offense Alan, I know you're reporting information as you get it, but this scenario is ridiculous.

    ThornyHorn

  • ThornyHorn said...

    To the ACC with Tech, KU and MIZZU? Texas is not about to win the boobie prize in conference realignment while Aggie and OU laugh at us. No offense Alan, I know you're reporting information as you get it, but this scenario is ridiculous.

    The booby prize has already been claimed by the soon-to-be-even-more-mediocre aggies. OU covets the fertile recruiting ground of Cali (and the B10 doesn't want them). Texas to ACC really isn't that bad an idea. IMO it's better than the PAC from both a logistics and quality of competition standpoint. My preference would still be B10, but ACC is better than PAC or a watered down BXII.

    ChampKind

  • I guess it's all relative but all these scenarios seem pretty lame for one reason or another.

    From a non-revenue sport standpoint the SEC, PAC12 and ACC are the best.

    From a regionality standpoint the SEC is the only one that makes sense.

    From a recruiting perspective the PAC12 makes the most sense.

    From an academics standpoint the ACC, PAC12 and BIG10 are most in line with Texas.

    Culturally it seems the PAC12 is the best fit.

    From an endowment perspective i'm pretty sure the BIG10 lines up the best but could be wrong.

    Whoever is making this decision is doing one hell of a KT analysis that's for sure.

    maninblack1

  • Ugh. What a joke. (Not you Alan.)

    Chuckie Finster

  • The ACC is definitely not the sexy pick. I think this move hurts our recruiting in football. Conference strength and prestige is an important selling point. Also where do we fall if we don't win a perceived "weak" football conference on a regular basis? At least Auburn or LSU gets to say they are in the SEC!

    4thand5

  • If the ACC takes those four schools, then there will be no easy way for the Pac-12 to get to 16.

    Personally I think with the ACC, folks are putting out scenarios that try to push people one way or another.

    I think the ACC remains a horrible decision.

    It's not defensible and no amount of money or word is going to keep a Florida State from bolting if the SEC ever offers them. Same with BC to the Big 10. They would be no different than A&M. They'd just respectfully ask for a divorce.

    Furthermore, Texas will have lost A&M and Arkansas as conference mates in the last 20 years and also will have lost Oklahoma in conference.

    If that turns out to be the case, I think the Longhorns lose part of their identity and are trading it for Tech, Kansas and Missouri. Not an even trade no matter how someone tries to spin it.

    This post was edited by BobbyBurton on 9/14/2011 at 11:30 PM

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  • maninblack1 said...

    I appreciate that Alan. Just don't turn into the mouthpiece for Bellmont that the competition has become.

    I also hope I'm not doing that.

    As I've quickly found out, conference realignment is a very fluid story that isn't easy to decipher. Things change. People lie. People have agendas.

    I can tell you that not once have I just heard something and thrown it out to you guys in a story. There have been discussions with other well-informed people who are talking to other sources.

    [B] BELOW IS 100% MY OPINION, NOT COMMENTS FROM ANY SOURCE[/b]

    While everybody comes up with a lot of issues surrounding each conference, I really think this all boils down to the LHN.

    The Pac 12 and the Big 10 don't seem to want anything to do with the LHN in its current format. I don't blame them one bit.

    Texas has no intention of giving up the LHN. I don't blame it one bit. This and power to control the conference are the reasons UT wants to keep the Big 12 together

    If everybody sticks to his/her guns in this situation, it's possible that negotiations between Texas/B1G/Pac will end at an impasse. If that's the case, it's understandable that Texas would take a good, hard look at the ACC.

    If Texas joins the ACC, it's basically deciding that keeping the LHN is more valuable than joining the PAC or B1G.

    *********
    separate rant ...

    As somebody who grew up in Chicago, I cringe every time I hear somebody in Austin say that they don't want Texas playing football in Ann Arbor in November because the weather is too much of a disadvantage. First of all, realize that comment sounds cowardly coming from a state that prides itself on tough football. Secondly, it's not always snowing or 10 below zero. Sometimes it will be. Sometimes it won't. Thirdly, it's cold for everybody on the field if it's cold. It's hot for everybody if it's hot.

    The only things that are disadvantages when you play in weather you're not used to is footing and timing. In that respect, Texas going up to Ann Arbor in November is no different than the Big 10 teams having to come down south for every bowl game in January.

    And ... Rant over.

    I now assume that you will bring up 7 points I never thought about and make me take back everything I just wrote. This should be enjoyable.

    P.S. Baseball is a completely different argument. I agree that the B1G would stink for Texas baseball in many aspects.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by Alan Trubow on 9/14/2011 at 11:52 PM

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    Alan Trubow

  • easttxhorn said...

    I actually like the ACC more than the PAC 12, I think top to bottom it is a better conference for football.

    Excited about the possibility, anything is better than the PAC though. Just thinking about playing at Florida State gets me reved. At VaTech, VA, Clemson..not sure if the ACC idea has not pulled even in my mind with the Big10. I'd be happy with either, just please no PAC12.

    dentonhorn

  • maninblack1 said...

    I guess it's all relative but all these scenarios seem pretty lame for one reason or another.

    From a non-revenue sport standpoint the SEC, PAC12 and ACC are the best.

    From a regionality standpoint the SEC is the only one that makes sense.

    From a recruiting perspective the PAC12 makes the most sense.

    From an academics standpoint the ACC, PAC12 and BIG10 are most in line with Texas.

    Culturally it seems the PAC12 is the best fit.

    From an endowment perspective i'm pretty sure the BIG10 lines up the best but could be wrong.

    Whoever is making this decision is doing one hell of a KT analysis that's for sure.

    I agree. We don't seem to "fit in" anywhere. I thought the Big 12 was a pretty good fit for us, but if it's not salvageable, independence is starting to look better. The state of Texas, our fans, student body, alumni is just so big and diverse, that I think it's hard for us to identify with any one conference. We're not west coast, east coast, midwest, or deep south. We're just...Texas. shrug

    austen

  • Kids in Texas grow up dying to play in the ACC. sarcasm

    I think it would be a stupid move and it would cost Texas badly on the recruiting trail.

    There are a few teams between Texas and the East coast. Give them a look Dodds before we all regret it.

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  • Does anything make you want to puke more than Texas vs. ACC teams?

    WildBill71

  • WildBill71 said...

    Does anything make you want to puke more than Texas vs. ACC teams?

    Yeah, the SWC

    Syed

  • maninblack1 said...

    Culturally it seems the PAC12 is the best fit.

    Why do people keep saying this?

    UVA and UNC are closer "culturally" to Texas than any other schools in the country.

    ErikEstrada

  • I swear that all of these chancellors, presidents, ADs, etc have lost thier minds...they are just totally overcome by greed.

    Why in hell UT would want to align with a bunch of schools on the east coast as far north as Boston I have no clue

    How are the needs and interests of our student athletes and fans advanced by this? Nearly impossible to attend an away game in any sport.

    Seriously, if this is the best they can come up with, they all need to resign

    blisssm

  • What would be funny is if UT was doing this to make OU's trip to the Pac less attractive by taking the teams away that the Pac wants to add with OU and using that to try and salvage the B12. That would be impressive and ballsy.

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