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  • T. Boone Pickens was once quoted as saying, "Dodds "is a friend of mine, but DeLoss had too many cards and he played every damn one of them. I think that's too bad. You get tired of saying 'aaah' while you get something shoved down your throat." This may come across as being negative, cynnical, not so nice, however I believe the University of Texas' arrogance from its AD/Administration have led us to this point.

    The AD/Administration talks about having programs with similar academics backgrounds/requirements in their conference yet allows WVU in?

    The AD/Administration chides the SEC for academics yet on last count the SEC had 4 AAU schools and the Big 12 has 2.

    The AD/Administration chides the SEC for recruiting practices yet seems to have forgotten the misdeeds that OU, Okie State have done in the pastand has turned a blind-eye to what Baylor is doing in basketball AND football today because it is convenient?

    The facts are:

    1. There is a reason schools like Nebraska, Colorado, Mizzou, & Texas A&M are no longer in the Big 12. It's not because they are idiotic or morons or meanies- it is because the Big 12 is severely flawed.

    2. UT & OU want the easiest path to a National Championship game at the expense of making the conference more competitve and actually killing it.

    3. People are not stupid- they see what UT & OU are trying to do here and will punish accordingly. Not withstanding out of conference scheduling, whichever team that does come out of the Big 12 undefeated will certainly be punished by a selection committee for a playoff by being given a lesser seed or ignored altogether from a playoff.

    4. The fans are the ones being screwed here. Would you rather watch UT play Iowa State or Tennessee? Would you rather watch UT play K-State or Florida? Would you rather watch UT play Baylor or Georgia? Would you rather watch UT play Tech or LSU? Pretty much a no-brainer here. BTW, to avoid there being SEC bias you could substitue Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, & LSU with Oregon, USC, UCLA, & ASU OR Florida State, Virginia Tech, UNC, & Clemson OR Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, & Wisconsin. The takeaway is the Big 12 and its destinations flat-out suck.

    5. You know what made the Dallas Cowboys "America's Team" back in the good old days? TV Exposure. Sure UT is winning in the boardroom with the LHN and all but what do I as a fan have to show for it? I STILL don't have the LHN which means there are now 3 games a season I don't get to see. Guess what? That means there are 3 games a season where a perspective recruit doesn't get to see "Texas' Team" play football. In the meantime, Johnny "Football" is a Heisman front-runner at a school that is now getting a 2nd look with a Head Coach that High School Football Players can more closely identify with than an aging Mack Brown. It is "arrogant" of this AD/Administration to think that sports fans across the country will clamour for a Network that shows underperforming, underachieving football and basketball programs. Here's a novel idea: WIN ON FOOTBALL FIELD, BASKETBALL COURT, & BASEBALL DIAMOND INSTEAD OF WINNING IN THE BOARD ROOM!! UT has better businessmen and acumen than other schools? Great! Unfortunately there are NO spectator, collegiate sports that include those categories.

    6. Speaking of winning in the boardroom, looks like Swarbrick threw his old buddy Deloss a big curve by taking all of the non-football sports to the ACC. Wow, who DIDN'T see this one coming? The Academics of the ACC vs the Academics of the Big 12. NEVER saw that one coming at all.. Perhaps Swarbrick is forcing Dodds hand to have Texas leave the Big 12 sooner than later? dunno..

    The bottom line is the University of Texas AD/Administration has outsmarted itself. Its arrogance has led to the break-up of a once proud conference with the only remaining members being Texas, OU and the have nots. That is not exciting for fans nor is it exciting for HS players to commit to playing in for 4-5 years. Kids want to play against the best. The Big 12 Conference does not represent the best. The University of Texas prides itself on being the "Jones". It is time for the "Jones" to quit avoiding the big boys and go play with the big boys AND WIN! Competition is a GOOD thing. It forces us to go further than we thought we could. The University of Texas did it in the Big 12 back when Nebraska was still Nebraska & Colorado was somewhat strong. With our resources and facilities we can do it in ANY Conference we choose. The time for laziness is over. If Deloss and Powers don't have the stomach for everything that needs to be done (including adressing Mack's AND Barnes' future) then it is time for them to be shown the door.


    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Santa Gertrudis 17 months ago

  • You and T. Boone use vague terms as to exactly how UT has been arrogant. The most common charge these days is UT's insistence on keeping the Longhorn Network revenue to themselves. The Big 12 and NCAA rules allow them to do it. And, as I understand, it contributes around 5 mil a year to the academic side of the university. So it was an opportunity that could not be declined in good conscience. Sharing the revenue would only significantly dilute the objective. It was a business decision in the best interests of the university.

    UT has, and always will, be accused of being arrogant, no matter what they do. Goes with the territory of the name the school bears, and the wealth and power that it has.

    Don't like the SEC and have no interest in joining them. Although not perfect, the new Big 12 is a viable place for UT to be. Football is king, and it is still a very viable football conference. UT athletics needs to do one thing first, IMO - have a preeminent football program. Everything else, including the money, will fall in place.

    By the way, I don't approve of DeLost, Mack, or Barnes. But the arrogance stuff will never die and is not usually warranted, IMO.

  • I tend to agree with you SG. I view dodds as a win/lose type of guy as opposed to a win/win, and I suspect our conference mates (and rest of country) see it the same way. It will eventually catch up to him ( and us), unfortunately.

    This post was edited by rgrhorn 17 months ago

  • dude, stop whining...

    the big 12 is fine and anyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot. can it be improved, sure but let's not pretend it is vulnerable.

  • I need a tissue... and some toilet paper

  • If the Big 12 wasn't vulnerable, it wouldn't have lost schools to the B1G, the Pac-12, and the SEC over the last 3 years.

  • Good post SG, chupita makes a negative comment anytime there there is a post not positive about Texas regardless of the value of the post.

  • Stopped reading after #2. Terrible post.

    Nebraska, A&M, and Missouri left because THEY were greedy and had penis envy. Colorado left because they thought UT, OU, OSU, TT, and A&M were headed to the Pac 10 and they wanted to make sure they got in instead of Baylor.

    For your 2nd point, adding WVU and TCU didn't make the conference weaker. It's not like they added Maryland and Rutgers.

    This post was edited by HoopsCoach 17 months ago

  • If you don't believe that then you have absolutely NO idea of what goes on at Belmont or the Big Cigars. You are extremely naive.

  • Having a 14-team, split division conference has allowed the SEC to avoid cannibalization of its best teams and have several members with 10-win seasons. The Big 12's round-robin schedule mathematically means it's possible for only 1 conference member to post 10 wins. The critical question is how important are 10-win seasons when it comes to post season rankings.

    The other question comes down to "who" can the Big 12 add that brings more value in terms of both revenues and fan interest. Texas should've learned enough with U of H in the old SWC to avoid city colleges like Louisville or Cincinatti just to add bodies. And, IMO most conference championship games are generally lackluster, and only provide opportunities for NC contenders to get knocked off by opponents that aren't in the NC consideration.

  • Santa Gertrudis you nailed it......... a fish rots from the head.

  • JeezGuy

    that plus the SEC plays conf games early and OOC cupcakes later which always helps since losing early in the season works in your favor in the polls.