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  • jjloehr said... (original post)

    I cannot believe I'm paying to read this stuff (because of how painfully sobering it is). I've gotta do an attitude check. I just got back from Future Texas HC's post on TOS. I couldn't bare to read all of it. Just read the "my $.02 worth". It was worse than I'd hoped. I don't know if that guy knows his stuff, but his analysis reads pretty thorough... Do you guys have an opinion on his accuracy?

    Anyway, yes, El Gato, your comment is a great summary. We are not designed to play from behind defensively, unless it is against a passing team. That is so true. I sit here wondering how this wasn't more obvious. I think I was so smitten by the speed on D and Muschamp's brains that my Miami Hurricane flashbacks just took over...

    Is it too late for a bunch of JUCO transfers to come in and help us?

    :)

    That post will show repeatedly how pathetic our run blocking is. Some people will hide behind scheme changes and say/think we are having growing pains. I am sure we are, but flat out Hix/Huey/Snow and co are getting whipped at the point of attack. It doesn't matter what scheme we would be using, they would be getting dominated in their one on one matchups when they attempt to run block. That is the problem.

    First, we made mistakes in evaluating and recruiting them. We then made mistakes in develoing them, possibly with poor technique in individual instruction from their postion coach. And last, they clearly are not inspired or motivated by their position coach or the OC. You can see it in the effort level, or lack thereof.

  • Keep in mind I'm a dumbazz peanut gallery fan commenting on guys who actually know what they are doing with no "inside" info what so ever (other than what EM shares)

    Given who they have recruited, next year this offensive change looks smart and it probably takes a year or 2 to coach the OL's up to new techiques (again, WTF do I know)

    Can we keep the plates spinning long enough to see the infusion of young talent?

  • The OL/RB evaluation/recruiting have a bust the last four years, McWhorter must be fired because of the OL joke, the RB coach has promoted to position (team baby sitter) and Major has not allowed to recruit the RB is wants.

  • echeese262 said... (original post)

    Keep in mind I'm a dumbazz peanut gallery fan commenting on guys who actually know what they are doing with no "inside" info what so ever (other than what EM shares)

    Given who they have recruited, next year this offensive change looks smart and it probably takes a year or 2 to coach the OL's up to new techiques (again, WTF do I know)

    Can we keep the plates spinning long enough to see the infusion of young talent?

    So you are suggesting that our head man approved a change that would take 2-3 years to impliment? What new techniques need to be coached to the OL? Blocking is blocking. Pass pro is virtually the same, run blocking is virtually the same. Every scheme has zone blocking and more traditional blocking. Just percentages and plays change.

    I believe our OL may be getting poor individual instruction. They were unable to execute well in run blocking with the old scheme in 2008/2009. They are unable to now. Matthews was not impressed with the indiviudal instruction. The OL coach is not performing well in his specific task.

  • echeese262 said... (original post)

    Keep in mind I'm a dumbazz peanut gallery fan commenting on guys who actually know what they are doing with no "inside" info what so ever (other than what EM shares)

    Given who they have recruited, next year this offensive change looks smart and it probably takes a year or 2 to coach the OL's up to new techiques (again, WTF do I know)

    Can we keep the plates spinning long enough to see the infusion of young talent?

    i remember you posting this summer about this offense and why in the world would Texas want to change something that has produced so much. I was thinking about it this summer and how much Mack and the staff we're mortgaging the team's immediate future on this scheme change, considering the lack of talent at running back and the OL issues. Sometimes it's better to go with what you got unless you're willing to write off a year or two (which can't happen at Texas). I know we have MB coming in next year, but i'm not sure it's going to be much better than the current version. The OL next year doesn't look much better and the addition by subtraction theory (on the OL) doesn't appear to have much merit.

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  • Quarterback said... (original post)

    This isn't shocking at all. List some players on offense that are sure fire NFL draft picks? There are none.

    While I agree with the no NFL talent comment, and agree it is a serious issue regarding evaluation and development considering we get almost everyone we offer in February of their Jr year (a different discussion entirely), this game got me thinking. Does UCLA have any real offensive NFL talent? An experienced QB? Years in the same offensive scheme? No. My point isn't that UCLA is great (even though they imposed their will against a good defense), I'm aware of their record, my point is there is no excuse for it to be as bad as it is. Tweek things, scheme, coach up, put playmakers in good spots etc, is all on the coaching staff, none of which seems to be happening. Nothing new here, just my first time on the board since the game and had to vent and this is what I can't get off the brain.

    This post was edited by Richard 4 years ago

  • Blaming the defense for this loss is nonsense, but typical disinformation by the Mack/Greg/Mac enablers.

    Our offense scored 12 points, including 6 in garbage time against a 1-2 team that was shredded by Stanford and lost to K-State. Our offense and punt return team gave UCLA 13 points in the first half, alone. Therefore, from a scoring standpoint, the outcome was decided before halftime. The 80 yard drive was immaterial, the typical strawman argument.

    We actually have quality talent evaluation, effective coaching and player development occurring on the defense. Are they perfect? No, but they're damn good. Is our defense hopelessly idiotic? Absolutely not. It is one of the best in the nation.

    Is our offense a total and complete disorganized cluster f&%# by any available measure? Yes, and there is no hint of improvement in sight, which is confirmed by the comments of the OP's source. So stop blaming the defense for the fact that our offensive staff doesn't have a clue about what they're doing with this team. While inside sources are interesting, they aren't necessary to see the desperation on offense. 101,437 people all saw it before halftime on Saturday and gave up, just like the team.

  • Lots of great insight on this thread...some of it tough to swallow...but I appreciate the quality discussion.