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If you want to crown him then crown his ass. Personally,I'll wait until i see more than 6 minutes worth of action in a controlled scrimmage against a unit last year who was the worst in UT history. Who by the way lost its 2 best defensive players.
I liked the way he broke tackles and ran over DBs. Then I remembered that Texas gave up over 90 yards a game last year after first contact.
The play where he avoided pressure and hit the guy in the flat doesnt get me excited. If youre a DI quarterback you better be able to do that.
I was suprised that he didnt seem as lost as i thought he might but I predict his career peak lands him much closer to David Ash than that of a "star".
Well for him to have already passed overstreet and brewer on the depth chart says something and I'd expect a Baylor fan to think he won't become anything.
Yes he should RS unless Ash is done for the season early in the year.
The good thing about him not redshirting though would be that there would be more separation from Heard if Heard redshirts. I think both will be good QBs and I don't think Heard would stick around to only start 1 year.
I had thought the same thing. He probably only will on campus four years regardless. Two year starter after Ash leaves, then off to the pros. Allowing his to get reps this year will only accelerate his development. Applewhite can install some packages for him. If he red-shirts, good; if he doesn't that's fine as well.
We will see. He was quicker than I thought he would be. He seems to have a little moxie about him. He has the tools to be pretty good. I am hoping Major can coach him up. Always thought Ash had the tools but did not handle adversity very well. Have a feeling is he was at Baylor, you would have a slightly different opinion.
McCoy’s arm and mechanics lets him down sometimes, but he sees and try’s to use the whole field better than the rest. I do think Brewer shows the most promise as a passer.
I still wait for Bobby enter into the conversation since if I remember he did not think that Swoopes ever would be the solution !!!
No shit. 2 passes and 10 minutes of football in a scrimmage and everyone thinks the new messiah has arrived. He looked good and I hope he turns out great but lets not get too far ahead of ourselves. You couldn't take away anything on his ability to read a defense or make a pass from that brief time on the field. He showed his athleticism which 247 has always claimed he had but not much else simply because it was far too brief a period of time running the offense.
He has passed Brewer and Overstreet on the depth chart. That happened before the scrimmage started. He looked pretty damned impressive in the scrimmage, which I will bet dollars to doughnuts you did not watch. But please, carry on.
Hey, we're desperate here. Cut us some slack.
Gilbert? Whiff. Ash? ? Little McCoy? Whiff. Brewer and Overstreet? Apparently just passed in the pecking order by an athlete who should still be in high school. You can understand why people are jumping on any bandwagon they can find.
Never seen the young man play but I believe that much of sports is about muscle memory (I place passing, baseball pitching and the like into that category) and the rest is about raw athleticism and instinct. Almost anyone can be taught to pass a football or throw a baseball. Not everyone can be taught to hit a baseball or to run elusively. I've never doubted that this youngster could be taught to pass effectively. Can David Ash or Connor Brewer, on the other hand, be taught to run elusively? I doubt it even though I remain a fan of David's. It's my take that Swoopes is a raw talent without much formal coaching who'll be a star with the proper help. Connor Brewer and David Ash likely don't have the physical skill set that Swoopes does. If we're headed back to a dual threat quarterback then Swoopes ultimately will be the guy.
Actually I watched the scrimmage thus my comment. But passing those two may be more of a sign of their lack of progress. Of course, you're an expert so carry on.
I understand it and I am all for the kid succeeding. I just don't think you can say he's definitely is this or that based on the one scrimmage. He definitely showed something with his legs when the plays broke down but there is no way to determine if the passing is there yet and that has been by all accounts his Achilles heel. Although ask VAgHorn he apparently thinks you can.
I just find it funny that after that brief bit of time of the field the pro-TS guys are out in force saying 247 and BB got it wrong and they should eat crow. Its similar to the anti-TS guys last fall who were wondering why we weren't offering another QB because the kid will end up as a TE. My take was he showed his athleticism, which everyone has said all along he had but not really much of a chance to show his QB skills. The pass to MJ was a nice one but again that is the type he was routinely praised for by sites and at camps.
I guess I am still in the fingers crossed lets wait and see mode.
Don't forget decision making and the mental side of the game.. You can have all the skill and athleticism in the world but if you cant/don't make good decisions you're not going to succeed at this level.
Thanks, I will. Swoopes is all about potential. He comes from a 2A school and is far from a finished product. Brewer has benefited from a lot of coaching/QB camps. Both he and Overstreet have had a year of college. No doubt they have improved greatly. So what does this kid that should still be in high school do? He passes both on the depth chart. You keep making straw man arguments so you can refute them. No one is saying that he is the messiah. No one is saying he is close to a finished product. We are just suggesting that you should post less on this thread.
1. Swoopes should still be in High School. Not only that, but coming out of his 2A school, this is Swoopes' first real offseason/spring where he's focused exclusively on football his entire athletic career. Only going to get better, still unsure how much, but its all potential and upside.
2. Obviously too early to crown him anything.*
3. *Except as a real QB with real potential. A lot of the over-the-top rhetoric was that Swoopes wasn't even a real QB prospect and shouldn't have been offered.
A lot of Swoopes fans (of which I've been since the beginning) are overreacting mainly due to how terrible he was supposed to have been (according to some) and how he wasn't long for the QB position anyway (according to same).
I would love to be completely wrong about Swoopes. I'm on record as wanting to move him to DE or something after his senior season in HS. He looked better than I anticipated in the scrimmage.
Overstreet doesn't see the field at all; he missed wide open guys to pull the ball and run. Brewer - meh.
Signatures are stupid. You should block them.
If Swoopes has the legs that have been described here then it would seem to put a lot of pressure on the defensive backfield. If you're playing man coverage and you turn your back on the guy you've got some potentially serious problems. I would expect him to draw a zone variety of coverage. Not sure exactly what that means for him, good or bad. Others on here would have a much better idea.
The hyperbole about Swoopes went futher than that - some were even suggesting that he would only have a future at TE and he would be a project at that. The commentary on his lack of potential was really over the top and unsubstantiated.
Correct. The naysayers were out in force back then and the fans are out now. I just think its a bit early to tell if he is the answer at QB just yet. 2 passes doesn't tell you a whole lot but his runs were impressive which is an important part of his game.
Overstreet can run too but passing is his Achilles heel much as has been said about TS although he seems a bit more polished than JO. One could just as easily argue JO has been passed by TS because they have similar skill sets and athleticism but in the year he has been on campus his QB skills haven't improved so lets move on to the next guy who has similar skills, fits our offense and has time to develop. To me CB has been passed because he lacks the mobility of the other two although he slings a nice ball. Basically the other two are a better fit for the new offense.
He broke tackles? Against our defense? No way!
Not bashing the kid, but high school isn't college and this kid hasn't thrown much of anything in college. He does have the QB sneak down though.
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