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ORLANDO, Fla. – Tiger Woods’ victory at the Arnold Palmer Invitational Monday is the 77th in his PGA Tour career and the eighth in this tournament at Bay Hill. Woods trails Sam Snead by five in career PGA Tour wins; five of Snead's wins came in team competitions. Here are other nuggets regarding Woods’ victory:
It took an extra day, but Tiger Woods wrapped up his eighth win in the Arnold Palmer Invitational on Monday and regained the No. 1 world ranking.
"Don't know. Never had one"
-- D. Royal-Mack Brown how to coach a team after a losing season
Tiger Woods’ win at Bay Hill puts him No. 1 in the world for the first time since 2010
"One of the toughest things in golf is learning how to forget. The weekend hacker steps on the tee at his local municipal golf course and, like a poker player, hardly remembers the great drives he's hit there but almost always thinks back to the snap hooks and push cuts that sailed well outside the fairway.
For Tiger Woods, it was never about forgetting, but rather, remembering"
From the blog Devil Ball Golf: One of the toughest things in golf is learning how to forget. The weekend hacker steps on the tee at his local municipal golf course and, like a poker player, hardly remembers the great drives he's hit there but almost … Continue reading →
Delighted with the win but Tiger's current swing is troublesome. Particularly with the driver he's looping at the top (presumably to encourage a cut) and then dropping down several inches at impact. He's spraying the ball all over the course as the driver face is often completely open at impact. I fear how long his incredible short game is going to save him. At tighter courses such as the U.S. Open it's unimaginable that he can hit so few fairways, play so few holes in regulation and still win. The last round was rather ugly to watch.
I disagree with you in part. He's not spraying it all over the place, and especially if you take the entire season into account. Brandel Chamblee broke it down last week on the golf channel. His left miss % off the tee is way down this season compared with the last 2-3 seasons.
In 2012, Tiger was 170th on tour in left miss tendency off the tee at 17.27%.
This season, so far, he is 6th in left miss tendency off the tee at 8.67%.
He's actually taken out the bad left miss, for the most part (had one bad left miss at Bay Hill in four days), and is missing it right much moreso.
I do think The Masters, post the last course changes, is problematic for him. He's forced to hit draws off the tee with driver on 4-5 key holes now after the changes...and that's what the shot he hates because the misses are his worst.
This post was edited by Gerry Hamilton 13 months ago
National Director of Scouting & Recruiting Analyst
I think his swing is getting close to 2000 in terms of production. What is missing are the fairways as Johnny Miller alluded to all weekend. But it isn't his driver that he's missing so often, in his final round he missed 3 fairways alone with iron. He's dominating the Par 5s again, his driver can't be too bad.
His misses are getting much closer to his target and he's pretty much eliminated one side of the golf course. He can hit a draw whenever he wants with every club in his bag except his driver. Is that problematic at Augusta? I don't believe so. If he's putting like that, nobody else has much of a chance.
77 tour wins now, people talk alot about majors because of how important they suddenly became in Jack's era but Snead's record is every bit as impressive to me. The goal is to win and if you do that more than anybody well I'd say you're better than just about everyone else.
This post was edited by Beast 512 13 months ago
I don't see how The Masters is problematic for a guy that has finished:
2006 - T-3rd
2007 - T-2nd
2008 - 2nd
2009 - T-6th
2010 - T-4th
2011 - T-4th
since his last win there. Yes, he played poorly last year but that is a remarkable run of finishes. Tiger has given Par 5s away and missed key putts down the stretch in those tournaments. Having to hit a draw isn't going to keep him from winning anything. That just doesn't make any sense.
I was in and out while trying to watch the last Bay Hill round but it seemed to me that Tiger was frequently missing fairways to the right (not the left) and that several of these were with irons off the tee. Some website says he missed 40% of the fairways which seems about right based on what I saw. I can't speak to earlier tournaments or rounds, just this one round. That can work when you have another fairway available to the right but it spells serious trouble in other situations. Personally I don't like the loop in his swing nor the downward lunge just before impact. His short game seemed astonishingly good. He's a fabulous athlete and I'm glad he's back.
If you happened to just be tuned into the Golf Channel, Brandel Chamblee just hit on what I'm talking about.
It may replay later tonight, or you may be able to find the segment.
(dwn voter) "Tiger hater"
I squared you back up
For the record, not saying Tiger can't or won't win The Masters.
I just no longer think he is the favorite. Different course - sight lines have changed forcing power fading right hander's hand on key holes (misses more magnified). He doesn't have the room for error off the tee he used to have, and is forced to hit his weakest shot since he has been playing golf - draw with the driver.
There are only two holes where playing a driver is the shot of choice. 13 is only 258 to the dog-leg with a downhill roll toward the green. With his length; he'll hit a three wood off the tee. 15 used to be a hole that favored a draw. With it new lay-out; the dog-leg is at 340 yards. Its now a hole that needs a drive up the right side and decide whether you want to gamble and go over the lake from 220-240. Two and five are the only holes that favor a draw with a driver.
Not a Tiger fan, but appreciated the link.
+1 for you, sir.
Brandel Chamblee is all over the place on Tiger. He's been dogging Tiger and his relationship with Sean Foley from the beginning. He looks incredibly stupid now and he's lost some credibility IMO. I understand him not liking the squat into the ground but he was overly critical of it all. Brandel is pretty good at what he does but far from being right all of the time. He's a little full of himself at times but nobody puts more research into their analysis.
He said that Tiger makes too many excuses now, that he should ditch Sean Foley and call Butch, that he'd never be consistent off the tee..........well that last part may be true but it's yet to be seen. It's still a work in progress, the last piece to the puzzle IMO.
Low and behold he offers up this quote today........"You're talking about golf's most predictable, golf's most animated man. And he's on the verge of doing to this generation's psyche what he did to the previous generation's psyche."
Haven't heard much of Chamblee but even a cursory look at Tiger's swing reveals what I think are fundamental weaknesses. A cut doesn't demand a loop and nothing requires the lunging squat that he now uses at impact. The head moving 2-4 inches downward at impact just makes no sense at all.
His short game, on the other hand, is just damned extraordinary. In his prime I thought he received far too little credit for his short game. Now, however, I still say he's spraying balls (mostly right, often with a ridiculously open clubface) and is headed towards trouble if his short game falters. Personally I hate this most recent swing change but am delighted with his recent successes. Hopefully I'm mistaken on all counts and Tiger restores golf to the spectator sport it once was.
This will sound weird but the current swing reminds me of Bruce Lietzke's. However, Bruce controlled his fade. They both have the same shoulder roll/loop.
Parenthetically, many of the better golfers began later in their careers to fade the ball. Sam Snead looped his shoulders (go to youtube) and Nicklaus began doing so early in his career. Even Hogan began to combat a pull hook with a weaker grip later in his career and started a fade. I just don't like seeing a power player like Tiger doing this.
This post was edited by mchief 13 months ago
The only Tiger wins the Masters is if I play as him on the good ole Xbox.
Fear factor: Woods' rivals better watch out
Sorry Rory, Phil and Bubba. Tiger is back at No. 1 and set to dominate once again.
Lateral Hazard: Tiger Woods' climb back to No. 1 ranks as one of his greatest accomplishments
From Yahoo! Sports: After winning at Bay Hill, Tigers Woods has officially reclaimed his standing as the world's most feared golfer. That's no small feat considering how far he had fallen.
Moi? Gracias Back at ya
The squat is taught by Foley. He believes the ground pushes you back up through Newtons law. His head is actually moving up at impact, not down
Everyone will pick Tiger but I think Justin Rose could win the Masters.
I'm going to have to disagree with Gerry about Tiger not being the favorite at the Masters. He's won 4 of them in his career, and as Beast512 pointed out, except for last year, he's finished in the top 10 there every year since winning the last of those 4, and 2 of those years when he finished in the top 10, 2010 and 2011, his game (relatively speaking) and his mind were a wreck.
Now, he's playing well and with a ton of confidence, and it appears that he's back in the other players' heads. For example, Rose had 4 bogeys on the back 9 in the 3rd round, and Fowler hit two balls in the water and took a triple on 16 yesterday, and 16 is a hole that should be a birdie at worst for these guys, so that triple was really like a quad.
I agree that he still doesn't have full control of his driver, but think you don't have to hit drives accurately to win the Masters.
And finally, Ladbrokes in London has him at 3/1. They have Rory as second favorite at 8/1. And if there's one thing I've learned in my several years of betting sports and losing my hind end, it's that the lines know a lot more than I do.
I've heard the arguments that you have to be able to hit a draw off the tee to win the Masters, but yesterday, I also heard John Maginnes say that he thinks not being able to hit a draw off the tee will not hurt Tiger's chances at the Masters. I play a lot of golf and watch even more, but I'm a hack and don't have the knowledge/expertise to form my own opinion on whether this is an issue or not; as a result, since there are opinions of experts going both ways, I'm going to say the opinions on whether you have to be able to hit a draw off the tee cancel each other out.
And for me, that makes Tiger's history in majors overall, Tiger's history at the Master's specifically, how Tiger is playing now, and what the lines say the more compelling evidence.
This post was edited by UTDwayne159381 13 months ago
Lietzke? Really? Tiger practices that over move to combat his tendency to get the club stuck behind him, usually his big miss right, and to feel the club in front of him exiting low left. It's just a feel thing, and not something that actually occurs in his swing. Corey Pavin has been doing the exact same thing for years. Bruce Lietzke, otoh, does that with every swing, real and practice, and can only hit the fade.
Btw, over shoulders and under hands is pretty much where it's at for ballstriking.
I got brains. I got big ol' brains. I got dinosaur brains.
On Chamblee, I'm just talking about what he has said about The Masters - the potential/likely/continued trouble off the tee, differences in course since changes, etc...
A lot of the other stuff, he's been wrong and right.
I am eager to see how Tiger will attack the course at The Masters. I expect him to use his driver less and his 3 wood more. He usually controls it better and has got pretty good at hitting a low stinger with his 3 wood on holes that force him to hit shots off the tee where he isn't confident with the driver. Tiger knows golf, understands his swing, and is one of the most imaginative golfers in the history of the game seeing the course and attacking it. I agree he might not be the odds on favorite but not many in the field want to see him near the top of the leaderboard come Sunday afternoon. As always short game is key for anyone in the field. GIR and fewest putts will be key stats to watch as always.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by UTfandallas 13 months ago
For the stats junkies, the game has changed so much since 1999-2004. There used to be such a demand on driving the ball in the fairways. The fairway % hit is way down on a whole on tour since 2004.
1999 - 81.44% led the PGA Tour in fairways hit. Tiger was 71.31%, but that was only 65th on tour. Won 8 and a major. 5th in GIR's at 71.44% and 1st in scoring at 68.43.
2000 - 79.75% led. Tiger was 54th at 71.22%. Won 9 and 3 majors. 1st in GIR's at 75.15% and 1st in scoring at 67.79.
2001 - 81.10% led. Tiger was 145 at 65.48%. Won five and a major. 5th in GIR's at 71.91% and 1st in scoring at 68.81.
2002 - 81.24% led. Tiger was 107th at 67.52%. Won 5 and 2 majors. 1st in GIR's at 73.96% and is in scoring at 68.56.
2003 - 77.86% led (start of down turn in driving accuracy as a whole on tour). Tiger was 142nd at 62.71%. Won 5 and 0 majors. 26th in GIR's at 68.63% and 1st in scoring at 68.41.
2004 -75.97% led. Tiger was 182nd at 56.13%. Won 1 and zero major (swing change year). 48th in GIR's at 66.90% and 3rd in scoring at 69.04.
2005 - 76.97% led. Tiger was 191st at 54.58%. Won 6 and two majors. 6th in GIR's at 69.89% and 1st in scoring at 68.66.
2006 - 78.43% led. Tiger was 139th at 60.71%. Won 8 and two majors. 1st in GIR's at 74.15% and 1st in scoring at 68.11.
2007 - 75.47% led. Tiger was 152nd at 59.83%. Won seven and a major. 1st in GIR's at 71.02% and 1st in scoring at 67.79.
2008 - 80.42% led, but second was 74.89%. Tiger was 169th at 59.83% Won 4 and a major before missing most of the season. 1st in GIR's at 71.39% and 1st in scoring at 67.65.
2009 - 74.09% led. Tiger was 86th at 64.29%. Won six and zero majors. 16th in GIR's at 68.46% and 1st in scoring at 68.05.
Fast forward to 2013 after getting up off the life and golf mat...
2013 - 73% leads, but only 8 players are hitting 70% of fairways. Tiger is 142nd at 55.8%. Won 3 of 5 thus far. 75th in GIR's at 67.1% and 1st in scoring at 68.33.
An interesting look is at what used to be driving the ball well vs. what is driving the ball well now due to changes in the game. If you look at where the driving accuracy numbers used to be on tour and where they are today, Woods is about at the same place as years he won majors.
Will be an interest next three years. That's pretty much his legitimate window on chasing 18. Venues set up well in 2014 and 2015 IMO.
2013 Majors: The Masters, Merion, Muirfield and Oak Hill
2014: The Masters, Pinehurst No. 2, Royal Liverpool and Valhalla
2015: The Masters, Chambers Bay, St. Andrews and Whistling Straits
I think the weather is going to be interesting...how the course is going to play. It's not ideal right now in that part of the country. Course conditions leading up to will likely effect how guys have to play the course off the tees because of second shot green quadrant demand.
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