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Jeff Fischer (former USC player) and Norm Chow (Former USC Off. Coordinator) never believed in Vincent Young. In my opinion Vince was put in a position coaching wise that did not support him to grow in the NFL. Both Fischer and Chow wanted Matt Leinhart (Former USC Qb). Hence the rest is history. In my opinion the 2009 Season showed the true colors of Jeff Fischer and what he actually thought about his young QB. The rest is history.
2009 seasonDuring the 2009 offseason, Coach Jeff Fisher announced that Kerry Collins would remain the Titans' starting quarterback for the 2009 season; Fisher said that if Young wanted to become the starting quarterback, he would have to "earn his job back".
On October 29, 2009, following a disappointing 0–6 start to the season, Coach Fisher announced that Young would replace Collins as starter. Titans owner Bud Adams had reportedly urged Fisher to give Young more playing time following the team's 59–0 loss to the New England Patriots on October 18, and became even more insistent during the team's bye week that followed. Fisher nonetheless withheld announcing the change "for competitive reasons" until the Thursday afternoon before the Titan's next game, on Sunday, November 1, against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Upon announcing the change, Fisher further stated: "I'm still in Kerry Collins' corner because I don't believe that our record is a reflection of the quarterback play," Fisher said. "It's a reflection of the team play. I'm still in his corner, but we've decided to go ahead and make this change."
Young won eight of his ten starts in the 2009 campaign. The 2009 Titans are the first team in NFL history to win five straight after losing their first six games. On November 29, 2009, Young led the Titans on a 2:37 long, 99-yard drive near the end of their game against the Arizona Cardinals. Young sealed the deal, with a 10-yard game-winning touchdown pass to Kenny Britt on 4th down as time expired. The Titans won 20–17. Young finished with a 99.7 QB rating, went 27 for 43, with a career-high 387 yards, 1 TD, and had 4 carries for 8 yards. Incidentally, due to an injury to Cardinals' starting QB Kurt Warner, this would mark a rematch of the 2006 Rose Bowl between Young and Cardinals' back-up QB Matt Leinart.
Young finished 3rd in the bidding for the NFL Comeback Player of the Year award behind Tampa Bay Buccaneers running back Carnell Williams and the winner, New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady. Shortly thereafter, Young was announced as the Sporting News comeback player of the year.
Young played in the 2010 Pro Bowl, taking the roster spot of the injured Phillip Rivers after Ben Roethlisberger and Carson Palmer declined to replace the San Diego Chargers Quarterback due to their own respective injuries. It was the 2nd Pro Bowl appearance of his career, his first being after his 2006 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year award winning season.
It's not Jeff Fishers fault that he's not in the NFL anymore.
He needed to mature and hopefully he has done that. I think he's more than talented enough to be on an NFL roster right now and some may argue to still be a starter.
I dont believe the whole Jeff Fisher and Norm Chow never wanted him. If they didnt they never would have taken him. Just my opinion though
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Fisher and Chow sabotaged Vince's career because he body rocked USC in the title game. It's the only thing that makes sense.
It definitely isn't because he's lazy, because he isn't lazy. Nope. No way.
One name that Jeff nor Chow could not argue with.........BUD ADAMS....(Texan) insisted Young over Matt.....Jeff and Chow were disapointed but you cant argue with the Owner.....
Definitely bizarre that he hasn't found a job as a back-up to come in and run the Wild-cat.
Here are the stats from Arizona Cardinals Qb's...horrible at best......
Here are the quarterback numbers for the last four games for Arizona, a combination of John Skelton and Ryan Lindley.
163 plays (including sacks and four QB rush attempts), 510 net yards, 0 touchdowns, 12 turnovers
Why cant Vince try out for the Cardinals? Rumor has it that if Vince Young try's out he might make the Team...Well duh...that is the whole point to improve your team..I do not get this .....
Roe...you do get this, you're choosing not to accept the truth that VY put himself in this position...
Multiple NFL teams are having QB problems & Vince isn't getting any calls...what should that tell you about the problems he's caused for himself around the league?
& don't blame Jeff Fisher
Vince is still very athletic. The problem is, he's been figured out. He doesn't read defenses very well. He also doesn't have the best reputation at studying film and putting in the work behind the scenes.
With the qb position in the nfl, you need physical and mental tools. He's got the physical tools but he's lacking in other areas.
A better coach might have been able to mask the deficiencies better than fisher but que sera, sera....something's just are.
So they were willing to put there own careers at risk by sabotaging the most important position on the team, just for spite?
The true test of a man's intelligence is how much he agrees with you.
Entitlement can ruin a career of a talented man.
Signatures are stupid. You should block them.
Their QBs are terrible. Wisenhunt is on the hot seat. Every win counts and they are still not interested in Vince. Pretty damning evidence that Vince and his issues arent wanted.
You should stop blaming everyone else for Vince's shortcomings
Okay, let me break it down here. Buffalo signed VY as a free agent. After training camp and pre season games, the Bills see fit to trade for Tavares Jackson! If one of the worst teams in football prefer him over VY, then that's on him.
These posts about VY are getting stupid.
I know Jeff and believe me he is a fine man and gave VY every chance he could.
That's not supported by the facts. He was forced to play Vince twice and Vince saved his job both times. He looked for every chance to yank Vince. He benched bo scaife for saying Vince had support in the locker room.
People can speculate about Vince and his work ethic, but to say Fisher gave him every chance is simply untrue.
He never wanted Vince and had no idea how to use him. If he had any skill as an offensive innovator he would have realized what he had and used it.
Sal, let's just disagree. I love what VY did for us but he did not translate to the nfl. You talk about "facts" but simply give me your slant on the events.
In the NFL they'd happily give a job to a convicted felon, if they thought that guy could help them win a game. The fact that NO ONE will give Vince a shot means that no one thinks having Vince on their team is better than their existing QB situation. In light of his physical abilities and past success, the entire NFL must view Vince as a poisonous teammate.
Vince should have gone to the Canadian football league to show the NFL owners he is still serious about football.
Again the stats and results on the field don't support your argument at all.
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The fact is he is no longer playing and appears toxic to any franchise. I'd say that is proof he hasn't translated to the nfl. Tons of physical talent. Mental? Not so much.
It's a mystery why VY is not playing in the NFL?
You can't just 'will' your team to win by playing street football in the NFL.
And Vince is not cognitively encephalized enough to do anything other.
We can argue until we are blue in the face about if Vince works hard, is a good teammate, etc. The perception around the league is obviously negative, and perception is reality. I happen to think that reality was painted by an egotistical mediocre football coach who never liked the fact that he did not have a say in who his quarterback would be. Some on here would vehemently disagree with me, and that's fine we've done that for the last two years and I really have no desire to do it again.
But to say that he didn't have success, his skills didn't translate, or that he was given every chance to succeed by Jeff Fisher is revisionist history and is not consistent with what actually happened. Use the google machine, he had plenty of success, it's not possible to have the success he had without having his skills translate, and his coach was forced to play him multiple times.
19 additional fumbles
Career Completion Percentage of 57.9. This year that puts him in the company of BlakeGabbert and Jake Locker.
All-time its worse than David Carr, JP Losman, Tavaris Jackson and Tim Couch.
This. I was thinking exactly the same thing. In some respects, his skill set would translate better to the CFL game anyway.
The best way for Vince to get back to the NFL is to go to the CFL, be successful, and show he has grown up and and can be the face of a franchise. Disappearing when pissed off and getting in fights in strip clubs at 3am isn't conducive to being the face of a franchise and no owner is going to pay millions for that kind of sideshow.
This post was edited by GoingCoastal 16 months ago
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