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Winning cures all.
If A&M had won 11 games & won a Heisman in the Big 12, they would have gotten the same response they are now. Problem is I don't think they could win 11 games playing high scoring offenses week in and week out.
The B12 needs to rally around each other like the other conferences are doing. texas is the money maker in this league and seems to call many of the shots. Something needs to change before there is no B12 conference.
There is nothing more dangerous in this world than a man with nothing to lose.
A&M didn't crap the bed. They won 11 games last season. You aren't living in reality.
He is talking long term. If you think they will Win 11 consistently you are not living in reality.
Couldn't agree more. The problem is the person calling the shots for the big money maker is someone no one else outside of Austin really wants to rally around. I honestly believe the biggest problem with Texas athletics AND the Big 12 is DeLoss.
4 OOC patsies
3 intradivision weaklings (currently Auburn, Ark, Miss. St.)
2 interdivision (so they lose one when they draw Florida or Georgia or South Carolina)
1 spring game
That's ten in most years, anyway.
Dude, I wouldn't count A&M out winning near that total consistently. They are recruiting big time talent, they have a great coach and they have ESPN in their corner. They have a real chance to keep their name up with the best for a long time and Sumlin is a great coach.
Winning matters, and would cure almost everything and would make a difference, but now, the SEC is in Texas, and we gotta deal with it.
We gotta either play A&m straight up, join the sec....or watch UT potentially be lost for a decade.
Your only as good as your recruits, recruits wanna play IN A Conference where its the sexiest...passionate,, b12 is regional...its Texas.
We better schedule A&m now....thats the only way Texas can justify to recruits that b12 is valid.
Out state recruits like...love the State of Texas....but given the choice of playing at waco and lubbock....manhatten...fort worth......, its not going to hold water compared to A&m schedule of LSU, ARKANSAS, BAMA, AUBURN, MSU, FLORIDA...OR GEORGIA...S. CAROLINA.
ESPN has already cast A&m as the new sexy....even if they are second fiddle to us in recruiting, they will bring difference makers who want to play in Texas and play on espn on a world class college football environment.
We lose in state recruits to the sec , to a&m , and we will begin to lose out of state recruits due exposure...ala espn coverage of sec...a&m
Sorry , im not buying the leadership of deloss....
We better get on the train or be prepared to be another FSU....MIAMI.....OR has beens, smart but game environment sucks
Just an opinion....why take it personally
Why wouldn't they? With as much talent as they are bringing in now, they should be a threat to win consistently every single season, from now on.
The reality is, A&M joining the SEC and having first year success has permanently changed the recruiting landscape in Texas. Forever.
If you want the new reality, read The Eyes that was posted a few minutes ago. UT is recruiting a receiver (Zamora so?) that in the past would never get an offer. Nice measurables but he had 5 catches and he isn't 6'3. You'll end up offering the prospect bc UT doesn't have any choice, but he's a 3rd or 4th or 5th tier offer. A project at best.
Everything has changed.
I've said it over and over but the best long term strategy for UT is to go independent and drop the crappy conference they are in.
Nothing is forever. Don't be so dramatic, slut.
Independent is off the reservation. I have long been a fan of the Pac. If Texas goes somewhere that would be a great landing spot. Problem is people look at the Pac vs SEC today, but do not envision what it would look like with OU and TExas. 3 top 10 schools historically in USC, Texas, and OU. Washe pington and UCLA is in that 20-30 range. Huge population growth. Ridiculous mkts. Imagine Seattle, Denver, LA, SD, Dallas, Austin, Phoenix and Houston all connected. California and Texas recruiting grounds. Most importantly Pac finally gets inventory for day games. That is something that has continually hurt them over the yrs in the media.
It is much easier to get to 10-11 wins than it is to stay there. Do I have proof that they will sink back? No. I just refuse to buy the latest fad. The next 2-3 years will give us a glimpse of what might be. They will always be competing with Alabama, LSU, Florida, Georgia, Ole Miss among others. Until it happens year in year out it is just speculation.
This is the simple answer. If Texas is winning and going to the playoffs every other year in football then nobody would care about the conference.
"4 OOC patsies"- they have four games w/ USC and Oregon scheduled. "patsies". Oregon? unfortunately, they're pretty good through dirty recruiting. how fitting.they played for the NC two seasons ago. USC has two NC's(one vacated) and played for another in the last decade. aTm hasn't seen a football NC since the Roosevelt administration before probably anyone here was probably even born.
3 intradivision weaklings (currently Auburn, Ark, Miss. St.)- Auburn is a weakling? they won the National Championship two seasons ago. Arkansas they're 1-3 against in the last four years. Jerry Jones is out to get them, which is why he keeps moving games to his stadium. Miss St is a weakling? what's this? wins- 11,7,9,6,4,5,9,6,7,4,6,8,7. that's not Miss. St. looks like one good season over 12. the rest average to bad w/ over half that aganist non-BCS or bad teams. that;s aggy, 11 of those seasons were in the Big 12.
2 interdivision (so they lose one when they draw Florida or Georgia or South Carolina)-they have to play South Carolina and Spurrier now. if they draw Florida or Georgia, good luck.
1 spring game- that's a guaranteed win and they'll count it.
"That's ten in most years, anyway"- far from it.
aggy thought they hit the lotto. they hit the wall. they'll find out soon. SEC! SEC! SEC!
We need a feature that limits the ability of posters to start new threads. If a 3 strike rule were to be implemented, this would be strike 1.
It was a joke to set up the punch line about the spring game. Thanks for the critique of my delivery.
Go independent - what?
Tell me that when the LHN is gone. Or when espn figures out they have (HAVE) to offer it in an a la carte pricing version and then they tell our guys they have to rework the contract - i.e., lower $$$s. And this will happen. All you have to do is follow what is going on right now with cable TV and sports programming right now. Espn will not get comcast or timewarner to bit without a la carte pricing.
So back to independence. That would be idiotic - in my opinion. What about all the other sports - just leave them in a crappy conference? What about when football starts to run into winning problems? What happens when it all crystalizes that the new playoff system will revolve around the power conferences. Heck even Notre Dame is figuring out they can't be completely independent.
Listen, our guys want to join the PAC rather than the SEC. Fine, I can live with that as long as OU comes as well. But lets just call this whole thing what it is. We are in this crappy conference for one reason and one reason only - it is called the LHN and the $$$s that come with it. It has nothing to do with our student athletes and certainly nothing to do with fans and alums.
Wow, I cant wait to see the responses to this.
I have continually disagreed with moving to the SEC for the simple reason that I didn't want to associate with that part of the country and universities with such low academic reputations. I think I would have rather us join the Pac 10 or bring in FSU and Clemson etc. However, the prospects of adding FSU or moving to the Pac 10 seem close to impossible now. Accordingly, I would be happy to move on to the SEC.
I'm tried of paying for season tix against the likes of TCU, WVU, Baylor etc. and would love to have college powerhouses like Georgia, Florida, LSU, Bama etc come to town every year. Moreover, recruits WANT to play against the best and WANT to play on the biggest stage, and that's simply not the Big 12. I feel like the rest of college football is evolving and moving on without us. It's time to act like real Texans and not be scared by competition and playing the best. Yes, it might be harder to get to the NC game, but if Alabama, Florida, and LSU can do it, so can we.
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Agreed. A conference with USC, Texas, OU, Oregon, UCLA in it is a big deal and has the potential to rival the SEC. The problem is that I think the Pac 10 overextended itself with their latest additions.
The problem, and Texas' reality is the people who built the Texas brand are those over seeing its current demise and are unable or unwilling to stop it. History will harshly review Deloss' tenure with critical errors made in acting like this is The Texas-ou Conference, hiring spineless, powerless, visionless conference commissioners and allowing LHN to create such a distraction as to lose sight of what built the brand ESPN was willing to pay so much for.
I fault DD for:
Southwest Conference ii
SEC with no UT
FSU , CLEMSON, LOUISVILLE, GT...etc.
We are the Jones's
As a kid in the 80's Texas sucking was sad and embarassing. I caught a lot of crap from old and young in the Texas Hill Co.
I'm pissed now, watching one pathetic coach after another fail and have no reason for doing so. If Texas doesn't matter to those who are in charge, tgere is nothing I can do about it.
How did the Pac 10 "overextend" by adding Utah and Colorado? They got two of the three biggest metro areas that were outside their immediate sphere but still in a neighboring time zone. They got the conference championship game they wanted. I don't understand your complaint.
Edit: Sorry, that was in response to Heisenberg's comment.
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