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Sorry, I beg to differ. The "rebuilding" has been going on since after the loss to Bama
And with Baseball, after '05, after '03 in Basketball
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"Don't know. Never had one"
-- D. Royal-Mack Brown how to coach a team after a losing season
Less talk, more action. I'm sick of all of these coaches saying players have to learn how to win and what goes into winning. Teach them, it's your job. They have enough experience.
I can't wait to see what happens this year. Mack and Texas should be the conference favorite going into the season.
TCU and Oklahoma State should have something to say about the Big 12 Championship as well.
While I think Texas will be in the top 3 going in, TCU should be the favorite with OSU 2nd. Until the defense shows vast improvement, I can't trust Texas to win the big games yet.
I disagree - TCU was 7-6 last year and 4-5 in the conference. Sure, they beat Texas, but that's about it. Even when Pachall wasn't doing blow out of whiskey bottles, he barely beat SMU 24-16.
Okie Lite lost to UT in their own house and they lost significant talent with Randall, and a few offensive linemen.
I don't think that UT will go undefeated, but I don't see anyone that would be expected to be better than them right now either. Gotta win the games and we have the top talent in the conference that is more mature this year. We didn't have that advantage the last 3 seasons.
OU? I know LJ is gone but they're still talented.
Texas has a combined 80 pt deficit to the Sooners the last two years so I'd probably start in Dallas and worry about the rest of the conference after that game.
I think the D will be the strength of the team (or should be providing Manny pulls his head out, too much talent)....and it will be interesting to see how the new O works with the personnel on campus....run game should be good based on talent alone, passing game will make or break the team this year imo. If either of the QBs can figure it out then scoring shouldn't be an issue.
Should be a 4 team race unless Baylor discovers how to play D (TCU, Tex, OU, OSU)
OU depends on what happens with the QB position. Blake Bell could easily be Garrett Gilbert, or Rhett Bomar. Nobody has a clue whether this guy can pass or not. From the limited film we've seen - I would lean to not.
Also, they lost a ton of experience on both sides of the ball. Top 2 WR's, LT, QB, entire DL, LB's, and top DB.
I see them fighting with Baylor for 4th or 5th place in the division.
And to say that "Texas has a combined 80 pt deficit is laughable"... last year will have nothing to do with this year, and 2 years ago certainly will not.
They've been rebuilding for three years.
2 years, actually. 2011 and 2012.
Went 8-5 and 9-4 with a bunch of freshmen and sophomores. First year that we have had significant senior leadership.
Then why do you mention TCU's 2012 record and OSU losing "in their house" to Texas, if last year has nothing to do with this year?
If 2010 wasn't a rebuilding year then what the hell was it?
Winning at this level requires a nasty attitude at all times when on the field. We all know Mack doesn't have it, so he can't teach it.
You can always shake hands and be a nice guy in the off season.
And 2013 is year 3.
2013 will be year 3 -- correct.
Then how the hell did he win the National Championship 8 years ago, and put his undefeated team in the NCG again just 4 years ago? Not all winners are dlckheads. Some do it right, and ethically
Sometimes I think Mack actually thinks the offense was the problem last year and not the record setting in futility of the defense.
How many times is a 60+ year old HC allowed to rebrand the team?
How many 60+ year old HC bottom out as Mack did in 2010 and ever return to the level they were at before bottoming out?
Mack has a used car salesman manner. He doesn't fool any of the other coaches with his glad handing and imo the players see his excuses and they are conflicted in their attitude. Could you image Mack leading Marines into battle. Players know Saban will put his pointed toe shoes in the place the sun doesn't shine and they also take on his warrior type attitude. OU tends to have more of a warrior type attitude. I think Texas kids are confused. Ten wins are good enough, less hug everyone, it's just a game, have fun, free orange slices.
A guy named Vince Young and a DC named Muschamp.
First you would have to find a handful of coaches that have even tasted the type of success that Mack has to answer your question. He took the UT program where not many coaches have ever taken a college football program. Paterno did something very similar... 4-7 to 11-1 at the age of 80.
I'm sorry that you hate your elders. You will be one yourself one of these days.
LOL! VY was one part of Mack's only #1 rated recruiting class. Take a look around the NFL and tell me how many of his peers are playing, and then tell me where VY is. VY was great, and a huge component of that team, but he didn't cause or pickup the fumble by Bush at our 18 yard line that could have put us down two scores... he didn't kick the 46 yard fg on 4th and 24 to put us on the scoreboard, he didn't have that amazing interception to keep the score 7-3 instead of down 14-3. He didn't bust the 30 yard TD run that made the score 16-7, he didn't stuff Lendale White on the game deciding play with 2 minutes remaining... you sir, are full of shit.
And Muschamp? Wasn't he our defensive coordinator in 2010 during our 5-7 season? Pretty much a poor man's Gene Chizik.
Yep I hate old people. Got me.
So you got one example?
So not many HC have won 2 conference titles in 15 years?
only to Sooner fans I would imagine
I was never good at math but the calculator says 118-38=80
should be a better game this year if Manny has a pulse
I already gave you one - Joe Paterno. Did you not read my response?
And, no, not many coaches guide their team to an average of 10 wins per year over a 15 year career, stay out of NCAA trouble, win 10 bowl games, and have 2 trips to the National Championship (while being screwed out of a 3rd opportunity)... Saban and Meyer come to mind, but whoelse has shown that level of success currently?
Tech beat OU by 28 in '09, then lost to OU by 38 the next year, only to turn it around and beat OU the next year.
You see how those "deficits" make a difference from year to year? Not one single bit.
I see a younger, less experienced OU team in Dallas in October and a more veteran, senior led program in Austin. Even so, we were talking about the entire conference and I see OU behind TCU, UT, and Okie Lite coming into 2013.
Senior leadership, and experience will generally win most games between talented schools. UT will have their first veteran team since 2009 going against a relativly new OU lineup.
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