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Statement from Jerry Gray

  • Bevo52 said... (original post)

    Are you just as pissed at Akina?

    Only if I were to confuse 11 years of dedication to the program with 3 weeks of dishonest intentions to coaches, players, and parents.

  • Bevo52 said... (original post)

    Are you just as pissed at Akina?

    Do you honestly think the Akina situation was somehow similar to what Gray pulled? Do you not get that most of us are upset with Gray because he was here for less than ONE MONTH after he willingly accepted the situation/position??

    Disciplina praesidium civitatis

  • Aristotle said... (original post)

    Only if I were to confuse 11 years of dedication to the program with 3 weeks of dishonest intentions to coaches, players, and parents.

    Oh, so if someone ditches another job after three weeks in favor of UT, that's different?

    "I've heard some of our fans say, 'We were always an SEC school. We just didn't know it," athletic director Bill Byrne said.

  • If Stoops really did pull the bait and switch on Akina with the Co-DC title then it's a completely different thing. That would be like Mack telling Jerry he'll be Co-DC and make more money then switch it on him once he got to campus.

  • Jeff Howe said... (original post)

    From the Texas SID office...

    Statement from Jerry Gray on going to the Tennessee Titans:

    "This was the hardest decision I've ever had to make, and I want to thank Coach Brown, DeLoss Dodds and everyone at Texas for all of their support during the process. There's no way I could have ever imagined that two jobs that mean so much to me would come up at the same time. Working for Coach Brown and Texas, and Mike (Munchak) and the Titans are opportunities of a lifetime. At the end of the day, a defensive coordinator's job with Mike and in the NFL was just to much to pass up.

    "That said, there has been some misinformation out there that I do want to clarify. Money had nothing to do with this. I wouldn't have come to Texas if that was an issue, and I wasn't at all concerned about what anyone else was making. I wanted to be at Texas and there's no reason I left other than a great job opportunity, period. I hope the fans and everyone at Texas can understand and appreciate my decision and realize how difficult it was.

    "I have a great relationship with Coach Brown and the Texas football program and am excited about their future. I had some really good conversations with Coach Brown before I left and appreciate all of his support. We will remain friends and supporters of one another. I texted every one of the players when I made the decision and encouraged them to keep working hard and continue the great things they're doing to get ready for the season. This is a program with outstanding kids and coaches and they're going to have a lot of success, and that made the decision even tougher. I'll be in Tennessee, but I'll still be pulling for the Longhorns as hard as I ever have."

    It occurs to me that a very talented and well qualified coach was truly torn between two "dream jobs". The better of the two jobs is obviously the higher paying NFL DC position. I would surmise that taking the Titan's job was not that difficult of a decision and that Mack fully understood the dilemma Jerry faced. At the same time, he knew that Akina would come home at the drop of a hat. I doubt that it took a week for Jerry to make his mind up. IMO Mack, Jerry, Munchak, and Akina were all working out the logistics of their respective moves.

    As far as Jerry notifying the players via text, that seems to be the preferred method of communication for the younger generation.

    Good Luck, Jerry and Hook'em Horns.

  • I'm sure the Arizona fans feel like we did when Jerry announced he was leaving. That feeling is certainly justified and I feel for them. We all should since we know exactly what they're going through.

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  • Bevo52 said... (original post)

    Oh, so if someone ditches another job after three weeks in favor of UT, that's different?

    Yes, that is different, because as Aristotle said, Akina sweated and bled 11 years for the program. More importantly, I don't care what happens to Arizona, just as I don't expect anyone from the Titans fan base or organization to shed a tear for us. But if Arizona should want to put Akina on the persona non grata list, I can certainly understand that.

    Disciplina praesidium civitatis

  • Kir'ks article reads like Gray felt it good to vent to someone, Kirk, whom he'd known for a long time and wouldn't probe too hard things like "you didn't question Mack first about Cleve/money first before taking the job?" Then, after he'd vented, he didn't really like the way he came across. Thus the followup. "Well, I did mean to break up with her but I don't want her to be mad at me and tell my friends I was a jerk."

    As for whether or not Kirk is a nice guy who does nice things, I really don't care past saying, "good for him". It does not impact his columns. In this instance he let his friendship with Gray result in a onesided critique. Kirk, too frequently, does things in a misguided attempt to prove his professionalism.As in vote Reggie Bush over VY, as in hold UT to a standard different than he'd hold other teams, just so he can prove he's not a homer. You can not be a homer but you've got to have the common sense to recognize that sometimes the very best is right in front of you. Not voting Vince as the heisman candidate didn't translate into more esteem from colleagues for Kirk, it just made him look like a dummy. The one thing I'll give Kirk credit for is that when he does publish a column that you disagree with he will write you an email to respond to your criticisms. So, he's got that going for him.......

  • sadly too many OB immature type posters landing here

  • The Bigdawg said... (original post)

    sadly too many OB immature type posters landing here

    Yeah. It had to happen.

  • Aristotle said... (original post)

    He's replying directly to Bohls article. Knowing that Bohls was on the money from beginning to end of the whole situation, it's easy to determine who's more credible here.

    Kirk Bohls report--
    1. Jerry Gray is the new defensive coordinator of the Tennessee Titans for several reasons, not the least of which is much more money and a title. But he also left his position as Longhorns secondary coach because he and boss Mack Brown never thoroughly vetted each other or felt comfortable together.

    No one made Gray leave the Seattle Seahawks and accept the Texas job. Gray truly wanted to come back to his alma mater and help it win another national championship, but he didn't know his $425,000 salary would be so low on the current staff — tied for fourth with offensive line coach Stacy Searels — and that he would make $200K less than defensive coordinator Manny Diaz despite being more qualified.

    Gray also worried privately that Brown is still trying to bring back his football ops director Cleve Bryant, who has earned about $80,000 from the university since he took paid leave in October during the school's internal investigation of accusations made by a former female employee.

    Gray is a terrific coach, and I think if Brown had made him defensive coordinator, Gray would still be in Austin today. But he started to have misgivings about the Texas program and began talking to new Titans head coach Mike Munchak two weeks ago, even before Munchak had the job.

    But remember this: Mack is all about family, and Gray was looking after his family. I know it hurts the Longhorn Nation, which feels betrayed, but this is probably the best outcome for all parties. I'm told former Horn Van Malone will be high on Brown's list of possible Gray successors.

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  • Bruce7 said... (original post)

    Kirk Bohls report-- 1. Jerry Gray is the new defensive coordinator of the Tennessee Titans for several reasons, not the least of which is much more money and a title. But he also left his position as Longhorns secondary coach because he and boss Mack Brown never thoroughly vetted each other or felt comfortable together.

    No one made Gray leave the Seattle Seahawks and accept the Texas job. Gray truly wanted to come back to his alma mater and help it win another national championship, but he didn't know his $425,000 salary would be so low on the current staff — tied for fourth with offensive line coach Stacy Searels — and that he would make $200K less than defensive coordinator Manny Diaz despite being more qualified.

    Gray also worried privately that Brown is still trying to bring back his football ops director Cleve Bryant, who has earned about $80,000 from the university since he took paid leave in October during the school's internal investigation of accusations made by a former female employee.

    Gray is a terrific coach, and I think if Brown had made him defensive coordinator, Gray would still be in Austin today. But he started to have misgivings about the Texas program and began talking to new Titans head coach Mike Munchak two weeks ago, even before Munchak had the job.

    But remember this: Mack is all about family, and Gray was looking after his family. I know it hurts the Longhorn Nation, which feels betrayed, but this is probably the best outcome for all parties. I'm told former Horn Van Malone will be high on Brown's list of possible Gray successors.

    I think Gray wanted to be Coach of the Longhorns, someday, but not too long.

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  • horninatx said... (original post)

    So, is he closer to the Titans or Texas? I ask this because I think he burned his bridge at Texas in order to go to a lame duck organization. It's not like he was here for a few seasons (or even 1 season) and left for another opportunity. Coaches do that all the time. He left at a really bad time, and hurt his former school in the process. That is hard to forgive, particularly if it was not about the money. When was the last time a legacy came back to his school to coach and left a month later?

    If a person likes his boss, the boss gives him almost complete autonomy, it is a big plus.

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  • Jerry was upfront and honest about everything. I respect his decision and we get back our outstanding db coach to boot so all is good. Win, win. Best of luck to one of the greatest to ever play on the 40.

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  • TexShoe - if you don't consider a DC position in the NFL(only 32 of these jobs in world) that pays $1.3+ million a great opportunity then we will just agree to disagree. The NFL changes each year and just because a team had a down year doesn't mean it's a terrible job. Especially if the guy has any aspirations at all to becoming a HC.

  • TexShoe said... (original post)

    Yes, that is different, because as Aristotle said, Akina sweated and bled 11 years for the program. More importantly, I don't care what happens to Arizona, just as I don't expect anyone from the Titans fan base or organization to shed a tear for us. But if Arizona should want to put Akina on the persona non grata list, I can certainly understand that.

    As long as we are all clear that there is a double standard and some are okay with that.

    "I've heard some of our fans say, 'We were always an SEC school. We just didn't know it," athletic director Bill Byrne said.

  • Does anyone actually "talk" on a cell phone anymore? Texting is the preferred mode of communication for Gen Y.

  • Alan Trubow said... (original post)

    Guys, a couple of things. This isn't directed at any individual, just an overall post to the board:

    Bohls did have very good sources for this story. You can question him if you want to, but it would be an ill-informed opinion.

    I have no problem if you want to disagree with what Kirk writes and want to take him to task for that on this board. You're more than entitled to your opinions, and we want to hear them. There have been plenty of times when I've disagreed with Kirk. Trust me, we've had our arguments.

    However, the personal insults need to stop. Kirk is not only a co-worker of mine (and indirectly affiliated with this site), but he's one of my closest friends. To boot, he's an extremely good person. He wakes up at 3 a.m. every Tuesday morning to go feed the homeless. He mentors troubled students at local elementary schools. He's easily the hardest-working journalist (and worker for that matter) I've ever encountered. The world would be a much better place with more Kirk Bohlses.

    Again, this isn't to say you can't critique his work or call his column idiotic. That comes with the job. No more personal insults.

    You may now post how much I suck (that's fair game), or make sarcastic jokes about how it's sweet I came to the defense of my valentine, Kirk Bohls.

    Kirk Bohls p***** me off because he sometimes writes things I don't agree with and sometimes has the audacity to say things I might not want to hear. And in my paper, in my team's town, he sometimes writes bad things about my team. I cuss him, I gripe about him, and I vehemently disagree with him quite often.

    And I keep buying those papers or going online to see what he wrote next.

    Like I said, he knows exactly what he's doing. Never said he wasn't good at it - as a matter of fact, based on the vitriol spewed about him not only on this site but on others, I would say he's pretty darned good at what he does!!

    Hats off to Kirk for his community service but that has nothing to do with this. My pastor is one of the best people I know... but I srongly disagree with him all the time. Of course him being an aggy doesn't help things...

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  • Frisco Horn said... (original post)

    Screw you Jerry. Feeble attempt at damage control.

    You can't be serious. Jerry has every right to pursue a DC position in the NFL. What you should be mad at is the fact he wasn't offered the same position for UT. That's something to be upset about.

  • TexShoe said... (original post)

    Do you honestly think the Akina situation was somehow similar to what Gray pulled? Do you not get that most of us are upset with Gray because he was here for less than ONE MONTH after he willingly accepted the situation/position??

    you have no reason to be upset. if Fisher doesn't get fired Jerry doesn't get the opportunity he got. You can't be upset at an opportunity for a promotion.

  • Johnny Walker said... (original post)

    you have no reason to be upset. if Fisher doesn't get fired Jerry doesn't get the opportunity he got. You can't be upset at an opportunity for a promotion.

    +1

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  • Johnny Walker said... (original post)

    you have no reason to be upset. if Fisher doesn't get fired Jerry doesn't get the opportunity he got. You can't be upset at an opportunity for a promotion.

    We can agree to disagree on this. Intellectually, I know I have no right to be upset, but emotionally, it's a different story.

    Frankly,we're all fans of the school, and to be totally honest with you, I'm a little surprised at how strongly I feel about this. I didn't have nearly the reaction when Perriloux played us. I didn't feel this way when Muschamp left, or when Akina first left. I don't work in sports, but I think I have a vague understanding of how the business works so i understand when coaches move around. Also, I firmly believe that good coaches will always be in demand, so I don't see the need to forsake your own personal reputation while selling someone out to jump at the next opportunity. It's just not worth it to me.

    Fundamentally, I think here's the difference: those of us that are near sick to our stomach over this probably would not make the same move ourselves if we were presented with a similar opportunity, where as those that don't see any issues with what Gray did would probably jump on the chance if they were in a similar situation. Either way, this is over with, and we came out okay. it's Gray (and Akina) that have to live with their decisions.

    Disciplina praesidium civitatis

  • Aristotle said... (original post)

    Stating that texting every player to say the same thing was done in bulk rather than individually to save a tremendous amount of time and effort is not so much as an assumption, but a logical conclusion.

    You can go back and read the Jerry Gray threads while this was taking place for some observations that go into great detail about honor, loyalty, class, honesty, and what employers do during the hiring process b/c they also have to protect themselves. These aren't assumptions but exercises in logic and drawing from experience of everyone who has worked for an organization or has gone through a job interview.

    You are responding to my accusation that you are jumping to conclusions based on false assumptions by... once again jumping to conclusions based on false assumptions.

  • OldOrangeOne said... (original post)

    Kirk Bohls p***** me off because he sometimes writes things I don't agree with and sometimes has the audacity to say things I might not want to hear. And in my paper, in my team's town, he sometimes writes bad things about my team. I cuss him, I gripe about him, and I vehemently disagree with him quite often.

    And I keep buying those papers or going online to see what he wrote next.

    Like I said, he knows exactly what he's doing. Never said he wasn't good at it - as a matter of fact, based on the vitriol spewed about him not only on this site but on others, I would say he's pretty darned good at what he does!!

    Hats off to Kirk for his community service but that has nothing to do with this. My pastor is one of the best people I know... but I srongly disagree with him all the time. Of course him being an aggy doesn't help things...

    This. I know what Bohls is, because I am one myself: A s***-disturber.