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What a baby. It's always everyone else's fault when MBTF fails. From the wind to the fans, he sure does know excuses.
What would you have wanted him to say?
This post was edited by tigerqb7 17 months ago
This looking around stuff is pretty stupid. If you have a guaranteed committable offer from UT, it is worth 3 of the vaporware offers you can commit to at A&M or Alabama until a better recruit comes along. If they want to look, then don't commit and it should never have gotten away from that policy. If you let them look there is too much chance for a late flip that made you miss anyone comparable to the talent. He isn't blaming anyone but himself for letting it happen and he learned that it doesn't work.
Mack is tone deaf.
Anyone hoping that the lackluster recruiting presence and losing recruits to Baylor might wake him up a bit should be very disappointed.
The guy is just not very smart and extremely lazy. He's put up so many self-imposed restrictions for being able to sign with Texas that its a surprise when enough guys actually pass the test to send in an LOI.
The lesson from decommitments isn't to not allow visits. That just means you'll be submitting to adverse selection, the lesson should be that showing significant progress in the program is the only way to save it. Note: winning 9 games in year 15 is not significant progress.
Mack Brown still thinks he has clout. He thinks the decommits happened because they chose some poor personalities and made a tactical error in the visit process. He's telling himself these lies to protect his own ego in how he identifies himself as a recruiter. He's a pleaser and he cannot fathom that he can't please the right characters to stay with him after yes.
Meanwhile, he's looking like a clown with his offer process, with shunning satellite camps, and by adding other restrictions to who he offers and how. I cannot wait for this idiot to hit the road. His sales process has been jumped in the market and he is too lazy and confused to adjust with the times and fix it. Everything he is doing is reactive and half-assed.
I just don't think you can approach recruiting like that anymore. These kids want to embrace the process.
If you're going to go after commitments when guys are in the spring semester of their junior year there's so much time that passes to not at any point wonder if they should at least go check out another campus. It's the nature of the game now, IMO, and I don't think Mack going so strongly the other way is going to get Texas back into the top 5 of recruiting classes.
I think you and Mack Brown have more in common than you might ever imagine. At least from your description of him.
I think he tried being flexible with commits taking visits and it blew up in his face. I think it's fair for him to expect commits to be committed and not look around. If they are wanting to look around, they're not committed so why should we be?
I know all things Mack Brown draw your wrath but this is the way it should be.
So my question is if Mack really means it, did he just pull the offers away from Daniel and Knox? Or were they told, hey if you want to see anywhere else, please do it before Jr day as this is what's happening?
Who do you think it will hurt more if Jerrod Heard decides to visit LSU and tOSU over the summer and Mack "decides to look round"?
Answer- not Jerrod Heard
It's human nature to wonder if the grass is greener in the next field, or in this case in the next university stadium. And it's even more that way for a 17-year-old whose life experiences have been largely confined to his community. For that 17-year-old enjoying the singularly rare experience of being pursued, not just by coaches but entire communities and state- or region-wide fan bases, it's not only not disingenuous but also entirely expected that his eye is going to wander and wonder about the potential of greener grass. LET IT, MACK. Texas is still Texas, with great facilities, a great education, a great support system and, recent disappointments notwithstanding, a great tradition and the opportunity to play in big games on a grand scale. For Mack to take the attitude that kids shouldn't commit until they're absolutely sure they're not going to succumb to human nature -- when he's asking them to commit in the first place -- is a serious mistake. It's saying he's not confident in all of those advantages Texas still has, and that the 17-year-old is not smart enough to recognize them if he looks around.
One of Mack's personal recruiting advantages has always been that easy folksiness, that pervasive confidence that what he's selling is something those kids will want to buy. Taking this hard-edged tack will come off as desperate and grasping, because it is. Don't do it, Mack. It's a mistake.
I find it ironic that Mack only wants kids who really want to be at Texas and now doesn't want his assistants "talking kids into coming". Meanwhile, he is very fond of telling how he had to be talked into coming by Darrell Royal and was ready to back off until Royal told him he needed to come. By his own rules he should have been turned down for the job.
Part of the art and success of recruiting is changing someones preconceived idea of how they see themselves relative to your program. You have to do this, or you won't always get the best players without always being the "hot" program.
So you are proposing that Knox and Gresham should not have offers right now?
And that we should have said thanks but no thanks with Hassan Ridgeway?
Mack knows that this class is not what it could have been. Anyone with a pulse knows that. But it can't be Mack's fault, right? It's those kids who take free visits across the country.
What other elite programs do you know of that pull offers because a commit went and visited another campus? I'll wait.
Mack Brown has become the Steven Seagal of college head coaches. I don't mean the Steven Seagal badass of "Above the Law" or "Out for Justice" (Anybody seen Richie!?! I'm going to keep coming back til someone remembers him!). I mean the Steven Seagal fatass of the last 10 years, who stars in direct-to-dvd movies in which the bad guys simply run into his waiting fists and half-hearted karate chops in the one fight scene in the movie that Seagal's aging endurance will allow. They're no longer chasing guys, kicking ass wherever they go and standing for what is right in their universe. They're just two old fatasses, picking up paychecks and seeking positive affirmation for their starring turns from any sycophant who will provide it.
It is stunning watching you post. I enjoy it.
someone upvote this man. I accidentally hit the downvote button
I think recruits should be told directly what is expected of someone who commits to play football at the University of Texas. This '14 class is an interesting one because for the first time in the Mack Brown era we have offered multiple juniors before our first junior day. If our philosophy has shifted back, I think these commits need to have it explained to them that if they are planning to visit elsewhere that we will continue recruiting them but that they probably shouldn't commit until they finish their visits. It's kind of like getting married. Pushing for early commits is pointless if kids are just accepting offers as an insurance policy. That's just my two cents. I hope we can have a good discussion here.
What else should a coach do that lost players late in the process? Texas can't afford to trust these kids and get left holding their jock. Only an idiot would continue to play that game.
This post was edited by Beast 512 17 months ago
I also feel that if a kid is still looking around after committing then we damn well should be too. I realize the luster has worn off a bit from UT football but I don't necessarily want to model ourselves after what everyone else is doing. I would rather have commits take their time, check everything out and be solid. What's the problem with that. I'm sure from time to time their might be an exception or two given that Head coaches are hired and fired changing the landscape.
I hope CTJ isn't watching me post because I'm on the toilet and that would be kind of weird.
I wouldn't say that Knox and Gresham shouldn't have offers but if I was Mack I would start looking to recruit their positions and if Texas gets commitments from other players and there wasn't room then they wouldn't have a committable offer.
The last 2 great recruiting classes made Mack and the staff cocky and they entered into this recruiting cycle complacent thinking they could just pick who they wanted for a smaller class and cherry pick a few recruits at the end. Mediocre results finally caught up to Texas. Lots of mistakes from Akina taking his time on offering DBs to not having any backup plans when decommitments happened. When Texas was scrambling at the end most of the recruits hadn't heard from Texas for a long time.
I don't think Mack is saying he's going to pull an offer on a kid if he decides to look around. He's saying that if the kid's going to look around, so are they. This doesn't mean he won't let the kid recommit!!! He's just saying they better recommit before Texas finds someone of equal or better talent.
If Mack is at fault of anything, it's he feels Texas's verbal commitment to the player is just as binding as the kid's commitment to Texas. Mack will never pull an offer from a kid at the last minute because a better player shows interest or any of that kind of shady stuff. I'm cool with that.
Better corch than Mack Brown.
I agree with this.
However Mack Brown does not have the leverage he once had in cherry picking and dictating to recruits how the process will work. I wonder if he realizes this.
The commiting and still looking around is happening a most schools it seems. Because of this it would not surprise me to see football have early signing dates a lot like some of the other sports do.
Well you can't let them dictate to you how things will play out. Plenty of talent in this state. Get off your asses and find it.
I'd prefer he either remain silent about or take the blame for his failings. Make no mistake, the quality of this class in sum is the result of his actions. The way he talks about this and everything else MBTF related is done the way a loser does things.
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