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What you're describing is actually happening, at least at UT-D. The campus screams high tech. The problem is it doesn't say much else. In addition to what you've suggested, stuff like football matters. It is why I think UTSA is in a very good position to take off. What they have going for them is pretty strong. A large campus that has been very well thought out, lots of new buildings and new dormitories. D-1 football played at that Alamodome is going to be a boon for the entire system.
That isn't happening at the undergraduate level, the primary discussion we're having here. If you want to make the claim that the top 8 rule benefits only minorities, you're wrong. What the folks found who wanted to amend or remove the top 10 rule found was that there was surprisingly stiff opposition from some very conservative rural farm and ranch communities. They feared removal meant none of their constituents could get in because they couldn't compete with the largest suburban schools who have oceans of high SAT/high GPA kids ready and waithing in the wings. In other words, it isn't just minorities that benefit. As far as there being unmotivated or less qualified top 8% kids, the retention and GPA figures examined after admission don't agree.The top 8% kids didn't get there by accident. What I tell my kids who bemoan going to a very competitve HS is that there are smart kids everywhere, don't make the assumption that because their competitors went to a poor or rural school that they're automatically less qualified.
Sorry to have wasted my time attempting an exchange of information with you. You have distorted most everything I say- either on purpose or for some other reason. You are very defensive about the process. Nothing is perfect and Ut's admission process is far from perfect.
275-0 scoring margin
Dana X Bible's National Championship team
I'm far from defensive about the process. I've simply undertaken the effort to understand how it works and can thus explain the how's and why's the system is the way it is. I just can't make you like them.
You are somewhat of a zealot, but I appreciate that. Here are figures from what I believe is a reliable source.
Perhaps 9% is an insignificant number to you, my only reason to discuss this is I have seen the quota system work to the disadvantage of several people who I knew well. I believe that tax supported institutions should take care of their tax base citizens first. If you believe otherwise, then hopefully we are both free to voice our views. I would be more interested in reading why you think there has been such a dramatic increase in not teaching professionals at the college level. I was taught that it was a good thing to keep administrative cost down and have run my business on that principle
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