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Remember what all the SEC 'ers said when Aggy joined?
We would rather have had Texas, but we'll take A&M.
This aggy banter reminds of the early 90s. Then what happened?
You are correct about the SEC network, but you are missing the bigger picture. My following comments are only about today, because I am not smart enough to see what will happen in the years to come. Currently, UT would bring significantly more viewers than A&M to actual game day broadcasts and therefore, advertisers would be willing to pay more to CBS, ESPN or whoever ultimately televises the games. It’s about viewers over forced subscribers that don’t watch.
Lol coming from a dumbass whose team hung a championship banner for two conference title games they didn't even play in. I'd rather support a "white trash" school that just wins decade after decade than a supporter of a gay cult whose biggest accomplishment was finishing 3rd in their own division. Congrats on the magical 3rd place finish. Douche.
Superfluous language aside, why not take a stab at answering his question?
We became one of the ten most successful programs of the decade?
Just a thought: at some point the LHN is either going to get picked up by a delivery system that matters or ESPN will settle the remaining contract. Last time I contacted DirecTV about it they said they had no plans to pick up LHN. ESPN is going to be the SEC's partner in the SEC Network. It isn't impossible to imagine a scenario where the SEC, ESPN and LHN find a resolution. Mike Slive gets what he wants. If he wanted UT, and if UT were willing, there would be a way to make it happen. Until things change at UT, it's a moot point but the Tier 3 rights matter isn't an impossible stumbling block.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by ppbrittain 14 months ago
No need to be mad.
Does anyone else find the "3rd in your division" disingenuous? Notwithstanding its truth, of course.
Did you finish third in your division?
If so, then no. That's the choice y'all made in joining the SEC. You can have a top 5 team and still be third in your division.
I'm not saying y'all made a bad choice.
But you finished third in a tough division. Those are the facts, no matter how "disingenuous" it may seem.
Y'all can still put it on your stadium though. Facts have never stopped you guys before.
Can we lock this damn thread...sooners & aggy bitching @ each other on a Texas board
Place is going shaggy on us.
Anyway to take out the trash and get back to the subject at hand?
This threads entertainment value is worth the price of a subscription.
A bunch of speculation about something that will never happen with the current regime in place at Texas compounded by being overrun by all of the also ran 2nd tier schools of various states within in the SEC screaming we's don'ts wants dem. Little brother syndrome at its finest. At least they are all standing together.
I'm enjoying the hell out of it.
Didn't OU just have a trophy ceremony for "winning" the conference after losing to KSU?
But still couldn't rise any higher than #5 in any of those years.
They have a "gentleman's agreement" not to add a school from any state already in the SEC. This was discussed extensively when A & M was added as the 13th school and people were speculating as to who would be the 14th school. As AUoutlaw mentioned, FSU and Clemson weren't considered since Florida and SC were already in the conference. This also applied to Georgia Tech, Louisville, and Miami. This is one of the reasons Missouri was added as the 14th team even though some of those schools have better football programs and are a better fit geographically.
Good post, agree with all of your points.
Tied for the best record and had there been a conference title game and OU been left out of it, there would be no claiming of championships. In the current Big 12 with no championship game, right or wrong OU was co big 12 champions. Just like the Big 8 and SWC days. Aggy claimed conference titles despite not playing in the title game.
This post was edited by SoonerSeif 14 months ago
I apologize. I'll try to show better restraint. A&M is the only team I have bad blood towards of those that left because they got their tails kicked every year in the Big 12 but now that they're out of that shadow, they act like they're big boys and its irritating. Yes they beat OU, that doesn't change the fact that for the past decade they were hardly competitive in the Big 12.
1. Texas and OU made all remaining members of the Big 12 pledge their TV rights for a decade to make sure the conference stayed together. My understanding is that the GOR has teeth and is much more effective at preventing schools from leaving than any exit fees that other conferences have in place. It makes it unfeasible financially to leave the Big 12. Texas and OU put the GOR in place and that basically prevents them from leaving too.
2. The SEC will not allow the LHN now and especially once the SEC Network is up and running. There is no way Texas will give up the LHN or share its revenue. The SEC is different than other conferences because they share revenue equally between the schools. Texas does not want to share.
3. The SEC has an agreement that prevents adding another school from the same state as an existing SEC school. Now that the Aggies are in, no other school from the state of Texas will be allowed in the conference. Plus, there has to be a unanimous vote of conference Presidents to admit a new school to the conference. At a minimum, A & M, Arkansas, LSU, Missouri, and Alabama would not vote for adding Texas for recruiting reasons alone.
Bottom line, Texas is not getting into the SEC.
This post was edited by kman89 14 months ago
Is that true? I thought the SEC let the schools keep their own revenue for 3rd tier rights? Shows what I know.
The most bothersome idea that seems to be getting traction in this whole mess is the notion that we couldn't compete in the SEC and that we need to cling to the XII because we need easy wins. What the heck sort of cowardly thinking is that?
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