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My thoughts on firing Diaz and hiring Robinson

  • BobbyBurton said... (original post)

    Don't compare the play of the Texas OL to the Texas defense last night.

    Why not? You said yourself that 7 couldn't block 3. That is atrocious.

  • josecanusee2 said... (original post)

    I've got a curious question as to when is it time to fire MB. Why did we hire Manny? Why did we hire Searles? Who is our TE's coach. Why did we hire Harsin? Did we hire or get the best top of the line coaches. Could there be a problem that we can't get the coaches we need because they do not want to work for MB. If that is so, Then it is time for him to go.

    When we replaced all our coaches, DID we get our top one, two, or third pick of coaches?? I don't know, but if we have to take retreads because the top and up coming coaches do not want to work under MB, then it is time.

    After another Beat-down in Dallas. (tongue-n-cheek)
    If the team craters, after the season.

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  • Redbandito25 said... (original post)

    Why not? You said yourself that 7 couldn't block 3. That is atrocious.

    He also said it was more an issue of talent rather than execution.

  • BobbyBurton said... (original post)

    Just stating a fact.

    Texas is currently 1-1.

    Texas is talented enough to win every single one of its remaining games.

    Will they do that? Very doubtful.

    Could Texas win 7 or 8 of the next 10? Yeah, I think they're talented enough and if the offense clicks anything can happen.

    Winning 8 or 9 games four years into the "rebuilding project" is completely unacceptable. If that is your prediction, how would you justify Mack keeping his job?

  • BobbyBurton said... (original post)

    So you'd fire Mack right now?

    Let's see how they finish out the year. Doing anything right now is overreacting.

    DIAZ departure is the right move. And if APPLEWHITE doesn't get it together run him too. And someone needs to get into SEARLES ear like right now! This sub par crap with tons of excuses is OVER. IT'S all gotta change for he better or the fans will revolt. And that equals $.

  • BobbyBurton said... (original post)

    Just stating a fact.

    Texas is currently 1-1.

    Texas is talented enough to win every single one of its remaining games.

    Will they do that? Very doubtful.

    Could Texas win 7 or 8 of the next 10? Yeah, I think they're talented enough and if the offense clicks anything can happen.

    So you are fine with UT going 8-4 this season when you feel like they have enough talent to win every game? Odd.

    Especially when those wins come against NMSt., ISU, KSU, WVU, KU and TTU. So, you're really only getting quality wins over two of Ole Miss, Baylor, TCU, OU, and OSU. So, again we are 2-4 against good teams, even though we have better talent. You sure Mack shouldn't be fired?

    Good coaches don't go 2-4 against inferior teams. And you've said yourself it isn't a talent issue.

  • You let him finish the year! There is no exceptions now. In November run him if this season is a bust. Be pleased with the removal of Diaz for now.

  • re: Searels, he is still dealing with the steaming turds left by McWhorter. His guys are still pups for the most part, and a year away from being impact players.

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  • groly said... (original post)

    He also said it was more an issue of talent rather than execution.

    Ok. Maybe that is the case, maybe not. I don't think the talent disparity should be that bad that 7 guys can't block 3, but let's just grant that for the sake of argument. Even if it was talent rather than execution, so what? The point was that the OL's awful play should not be compared to the D's awful play. They were both about as bad as they could possibly be, so I reject that. People can argue why the units performances occurred until they are blue in the face. I am a results oriented guy myself. My judgment that the units were comparably bad is based one what happened, not why it happened.

    This post was edited by Redbandito25 7 months ago

  • bierce said... (original post)

    That may be, but at this point doesn't one have to ask whether Texas deserves to have a head coach (much less a head coach making $5.4 million dollars) who understands what the players can and can't do or even what is going on during the game? I know we're told time and time again that Mack Brown is more of a CEO style coach than an X's and O's guy, but I have a very hard time swallowing the concept that that Mack Brown is making a conscious, reasoned decision to replace Diaz with Robinson now because he sees how OU has increased its emphasis on the running game, while at the same time he was unable to see a nickel configuration wouldn't be a good idea against a BYU team with a weak passing game and that the configuration wasn't working at all last night and he didn't intervene or overrule his defensive coordinator. How does that scheme get approved? How is Mack Brown not responsible for that abortion on defense? Because he is allowed to trust his hires to game plan, so Brown doesn't have to? When the hire was exposed as a complete travesty last year with his screwy stunts?

    I do think there is talent on both sides of the ball. I am not one to join in the present bewailing that there aren't even 5 more wins on the schedule. But I don't see how we should be looking at the Mack Brown employment question as some kind of quick and over the top reaction to a bad game. It has been 3+ years of bad games. It has been a 5-7 season, 2-6 in conference. It has been 11-15 in conference over 3 years. It has been promises of working back to NC contention during a couple of combined 80 point pastings by OU, complete embarrassments at the hands of KSU and Baylor, home losses to ISU and Baylor, the canning of most of the coaching staff, hiring of a coordinator who was completely ineffectual, the insistence on keeping him around one more year, total fiascoes in recruiting in consecutive years, hopeless mismanagement of the qb position for several years, and present insistence on some inferior players with seniority getting the nod.

    And after three years of promises and soothing words, we have a team that is beaten at the point of attack all night long on both sides of the ball. We have a team that loses Daje Johnson, who wasn't considered among the top 2 choices at rb going into the year, and suddenly it has lost a huge chunk of its firepower?

    Yeah, yeah, go ahead and fire Manny Diaz. The emperor is still naked.

    The light seems to be dimming in the Brown regime. Same issues since 2010. Broadly exposed last night. Rays of light shown on the issues for over 2 quarters last week. As I used the term last season, "disconnect."

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  • hornsrus said... (original post)

    DIAZ departure is the right move. And if APPLEWHITE doesn't get it together run him too. And someone needs to get into SEARLES ear like right now! This sub par crap with tons of excuses is OVER. IT'S all gotta change for he better or the fans will revolt. And that equals $.

    I don't think the Benjamins "cyber-plastic", will stop appearing any time soon. The fans love their entertainment and booze.

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  • hornsrus said... (original post)

    You let him finish the year! There is no exceptions now. In November run him if this season is a bust. Be pleased with the removal of Diaz for now.

    I agree with this. Maybe I was misunderstanding Bobby. If Mack doesn't compete for the conference this year, he needs to go. Nothing has changed.

  • Silky Johnson said... (original post)

    re: Searels, he is still dealing with the steaming turds left by McWhorter. His guys are still pups for the most part, and a year away from being impact players.

    Seems still 2-3 yrs away from building a solid O line w/ depth.

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  • BobbyBurton said... (original post)

    No one is saying Mack shouldn't be held accountable. But off of this game, no I don't think firing Mack makes a lot of sense.

    I agree with you that a single game doesn't warrant removing the head coach. I also think firing a head coach in the middle of a college season doesn't make much sense unless there is a serious issue with off the field conduct requiring his dismissal or there is a previously selected head coach in waiting to be promoted from within.

    But the decision should already be made somewhere that Coach Brown will not return for the 2014 season, and not because of the single loss last night. I really don't see how Longhorn fans can have faith in the guy. I really don't. I don't hate the man by any means, but if he isn't a brilliant tactician but has been guilty of overseeing a glut of bad decisions as the CEO over the last 4-5 years, then why should he still be in the HC position?

    I hope Texas turns things around and runs the table so we can have a great year, so Coach Brown can go out feeling good about the state of the program, and so we can all feel better about his legacy, but if it doesn't happen, then I hope he steps aside anyway. If he doesn't, then I think we have to consider that he shouldn't be entitled to pick his date of departure.

    This post was edited by bierce 7 months ago

  • BobbyBurton said... (original post)

    Don't compare the play of the Texas OL to the Texas defense last night.

    Uh yea it. They were awful.

  • I like the hire of Robinson as DC.

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  • PDX Horn said... (original post)

    Here are the top 15 tacklers in 2004. Littered with NFL talent.

    Derrick Johnson
    Aaron Harris
    Michael Huff
    Phillip Geiggar
    Cedric Griffin
    Michael Griffin
    Larry Dibbles
    Brian Robison
    Tim Crowder
    Tarrell Brown
    Eric Hall
    Rodrique Wright
    Aaron Ross
    Frank Okam
    Scott Derry

    Wow.

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  • bierce said... (original post)

    That may be, but at this point doesn't one have to ask whether Texas deserves to have a head coach (much less a head coach making $5.4 million dollars) who understands what the players can and can't do or even what is going on during the game? I know we're told time and time again that Mack Brown is more of a CEO style coach than an X's and O's guy, but I have a very hard time swallowing the concept that that Mack Brown is making a conscious, reasoned decision to replace Diaz with Robinson now because he sees how OU has increased its emphasis on the running game, while at the same time he was unable to see a nickel configuration wouldn't be a good idea against a BYU team with a weak passing game and that the configuration wasn't working at all last night and he didn't intervene or overrule his defensive coordinator. How does that scheme get approved? How is Mack Brown not responsible for that abortion on defense? Because he is allowed to trust his hires to game plan, so Brown doesn't have to? When the hire was exposed as a complete travesty last year with his screwy stunts?

    I do think there is talent on both sides of the ball. I am not one to join in the present bewailing that there aren't even 5 more wins on the schedule. But I don't see how we should be looking at the Mack Brown employment question as some kind of quick and over the top reaction to a bad game. It has been 3+ years of bad games. It has been a 5-7 season, 2-6 in conference. It has been 11-15 in conference over 3 years. It has been promises of working back to NC contention during a couple of combined 80 point pastings by OU, complete embarrassments at the hands of KSU and Baylor, home losses to ISU and Baylor, the canning of most of the coaching staff, hiring of a coordinator who was completely ineffectual, the insistence on keeping him around one more year, total fiascoes in recruiting in consecutive years, hopeless mismanagement of the qb position for several years, and present insistence on some inferior players with seniority getting the nod.

    And after three years of promises and soothing words, we have a team that is beaten at the point of attack all night long on both sides of the ball. We have a team that loses Daje Johnson, who wasn't considered among the top 2 choices at rb going into the year, and suddenly it has lost a huge chunk of its firepower?

    Yeah, yeah, go ahead and fire Manny Diaz. The emperor is still naked.

    Ya nailed it.

  • To answer an earlier question. Robinson coached on the sideline and was fiery. He was like Muschamp in that regard. Great adjustments during games also.

  • BobbyBurton said... (original post)

    So you'd fire Mack right now?

    Let's see how they finish out the year. Doing anything right now is overreacting.

    He's pretty much a lame duck. Not even winning the OU game could save him. If the boosters and AD had any balls and brains, they should start the committee to hire a new coach for next season. But who am I kidding, these old farts care more about revenue and access, than the product on the field.

  • BobbyBurton said... (original post)

    I called for Manny Diaz to be fired a year ago. It was a move I thought Coach Brown had to make.

    Instead, Brown decided to give Diaz a shot at redemption.

    Two games into the 2013 season, Diaz is out.

    Did Brown make the right move today by firing Diaz?

    Absolutely.

    The players, whether they'll ever say it publicly or not, were past the point of believing in Diaz.

    And who could blame them?

    No team as talented as Texas should give up 550 yards rushing and 40 points to a BYU team that scored just 16 points a week ago against a mediocre Virginia squad.

    ***

    What was Diaz's downfall?

    Well, there were many. But there were two primary problems:

    1. His inability to teach disciplined, gap-control defense within his scheme. It's the basic tenet of run defense and for whatever reason his guys never got it. Perhaps it was too difficult to learn his scheme or maybe it was too difficult for the players to effectively employ. Either way, there was a disconnect that resulted in insufficient results.

    2. Diaz's penchant for trying and relying on gimmicks. The "nickel" defense is not a gimmick. But it is if you run it three times on 3rd and 2 or less in the first half alone against a team who doesn't throw the ball well.

    Gimmicks that didn't work last year include any number of stunts, twists that all created more running lanes.

    ***

    In the end, it Diaz's inability to stop the run that was his downfall.

    Think about it.

    Sure, quarterback Geno Smith was terrific in Austin a year ago, but it was the West Virginia run game that led them to victory in the final quarter.

    And remember that 96-yard touchdown run by Oklahoma a year ago?

    Or what about Kansas all of sudden looking like the Huskers of the 80s and 90s last season in Lawrence?

    And then we have the 550 yards rushing last night.

    You get the picture. Diaz couldn't stop the run. So Diaz is out, and rightfully so.

    ***

    Don't discount OU going to such a run heavy offense as a factor in Brown's decision to let go of Diaz and elevate Robinson.

    Imagine that Texas defensive scheme going into the Cotton Bowl against the Sooners who are ultra-focused on running the ball right now. I'm guessing Mack Brown had that same exact thought after watching BYU do what they did last night and the decision was a relatively easy one.

    ***

    On to Greg Robinson...

    Robinson was the Texas DC in 2004 and for the Rose Bowl win against Michigan. Robinson then got the head coaching position at Syracuse before being fired there. Then he became Rich Rodriguez's DC at Michigan and employed Rodriguez's 3-3-5 alignment.

    Here's what I can tell you about Robinson.

    - He will make in-game adjustments. To this day, his work in the second half against Texas A&M in 2004 was one of the best efforts by a defensive coach in that series.

    - He will teach the linebackers to be fundamentally sound first and foremost.

    - He will attempt to teach players not to over-pursue and play with proper leverage and gap control.

    - He will not run as risky of a defense as Manny Diaz.

    But here's what I don't know.

    I don't know what, or even how many of those things, Robinson will be able to effectively implement in the next 10 weeks.

    What Texas is doing - changing defensive coordinators in early season - is extremely rare.

    In fact, I can only think of one college team doing it and it was Mike Leach who switched to Ruffin McNeil a handful of games into the season late during his tenure in Lubbock.

    I know that Greg Robinson is a better teacher of defense than Manny Diaz. I know that he can teach linebackers very well. I know that he realizes a DC must pick his spots and not be risky on every single snap of the ball.

    ***

    If Robinson is to make any significant changes to the defense, I suspect it will come after the next two games are finished.

    The next two weekends, Texas hosts Ole Miss and Kansas State.

    Following those two contests, the Horns have an off week before going to Iowa State for a Thursday night contest. Then Texas will have nine days to get ready for OU.

    ***

    Do I like what Mack Brown did today?

    Yes, I think it was the right move and I think Robinson is a solid hire.

    I don't expect miracles but I suspect Texas will get better over the next two weeks but the bigger jump may be in the two weeks following that.

    Bobby, if you truly felt this way about Diaz, why are we just hearing about this after he's been canned? I thought in your defensive overview that everyone is light years ahead of where they were last year?

    I absolutely agree with the firing, but you're just jumping on the bandwagon after the fact.

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