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My thoughts on firing Diaz and hiring Robinson

  • What a freaking joke.

    How do we fare in that Michigan RB without superman.

    Such a bush league move by Mack...and cowardly move for not firing him last offseason.

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  • BobbyBurton said... (original post)

    I don't know what it would take. But losing 40-21 to BYU on the road after a two hour lightning delay ain't it.

    One game is not a whole season.

    I still see this team as very talented on both sides of the ball. You never know what's going to happen.

    That may be, but at this point doesn't one have to ask whether Texas deserves to have a head coach (much less a head coach making $5.4 million dollars) who understands what the players can and can't do or even what is going on during the game? I know we're told time and time again that Mack Brown is more of a CEO style coach than an X's and O's guy, but I have a very hard time swallowing the concept that that Mack Brown is making a conscious, reasoned decision to replace Diaz with Robinson now because he sees how OU has increased its emphasis on the running game, while at the same time he was unable to see a nickel configuration wouldn't be a good idea against a BYU team with a weak passing game and that the configuration wasn't working at all last night and he didn't intervene or overrule his defensive coordinator. How does that scheme get approved? How is Mack Brown not responsible for that abortion on defense? Because he is allowed to trust his hires to game plan, so Brown doesn't have to? When the hire was exposed as a complete travesty last year with his screwy stunts?

    I do think there is talent on both sides of the ball. I am not one to join in the present bewailing that there aren't even 5 more wins on the schedule. But I don't see how we should be looking at the Mack Brown employment question as some kind of quick and over the top reaction to a bad game. It has been 3+ years of bad games. It has been a 5-7 season, 2-6 in conference. It has been 11-15 in conference over 3 years. It has been promises of working back to NC contention during a couple of combined 80 point pastings by OU, complete embarrassments at the hands of KSU and Baylor, home losses to ISU and Baylor, the canning of most of the coaching staff, hiring of a coordinator who was completely ineffectual, the insistence on keeping him around one more year, total fiascoes in recruiting in consecutive years, hopeless mismanagement of the qb position for several years, and present insistence on some inferior players with seniority getting the nod.

    And after three years of promises and soothing words, we have a team that is beaten at the point of attack all night long on both sides of the ball. We have a team that loses Daje Johnson, who wasn't considered among the top 2 choices at rb going into the year, and suddenly it has lost a huge chunk of its firepower?

    Yeah, yeah, go ahead and fire Manny Diaz. The emperor is still naked.

  • Dont know about anyone else, but I am tired of excuses.....4 years, top recruits, embarrassment on national TV.....no more excuses, pretty soon you run out of people to fire

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  • PDX Horn said... (original post)

    That's a weak excuse to me. He is the DC. If he was so against implementing it or didn't think he could do it successfully he would have never taken the job.

    Look at his track record from 2001-2010 and it is full of failure save for the one year at UT.

    So what the hell is your point? Did you want to keep DIAZ? He needed to go! Mack will leave when he gets ready to or the powers that be run him. But regardless if the only choice to replace Diaz was SOCK and SHOE, I would opt for sock n shoe over DIAZ. He has no business being a DC anywhere!!!! Hoorah for Robinson. Now stop the run. HOOKEM

  • Silky Johnson said... (original post)

    pretty sure there is nothing Robinson can do to save Edmond at this point. Dude is helpless.

    Robinson needs to tinker with that secondary and find ways to get Phillips and Thompson off the field.

    Put him in a spot with his hand on the ground.... Let him rush only

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    I'm just tryin' to keep everything in balance, Woodrow. You do more work than you got to, so it's my obligation to do less.

  • NLeininger said... (original post)

    At least get your facts right. It was Rich Rod's scheme that Robinson was asked to implement.

    NL you are correct. I said it last night that Manny needed to go now and WOW it happened. Mack's bed, now he completley sleeps in it!

    PanchoLefty

  • Bobby,

    Last week I said this was a trend game and we needed to stop the trend. We !@#$%^& did not even come close. Took a severe beating on ESPN as we should have. That defense was unbelieveably bad. Even from the camera angles we had on tv you cpould see the gap in the middle of the field. Dline gives up a gap and the next thing you there was a gash my old ass could still get through. How did Manny not learn his lesson? He visited Stanford to see what they do crying out loud. Who would think that Stanford's defense is formidable and ours is a pasta strianer??

    PanchoLefty

  • I've got a curious question as to when is it time to fire MB. Why did we hire Manny? Why did we hire Searles? Who is our TE's coach. Why did we hire Harsin? Did we hire or get the best top of the line coaches. Could there be a problem that we can't get the coaches we need because they do not want to work for MB. If that is so, Then it is time for him to go.

    When we replaced all our coaches, DID we get our top one, two, or third pick of coaches?? I don't know, but if we have to take retreads because the top and up coming coaches do not want to work under MB, then it is time.

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  • bierce said... (original post)

    That may be, but at this point doesn't one have to ask whether Texas deserves to have a head coach (much less a head coach making $5.4 million dollars) who understands what the players can and can't do or even what is going on during the game? I know we're told time and time again that Mack Brown is more of a CEO style coach than an X's and O's guy, but I have a very hard time swallowing the concept that that Mack Brown is making a conscious, reasoned decision to replace Diaz with Robinson now because he sees how OU has increased its emphasis on the running game, while at the same time he was unable to see a nickel configuration wouldn't be a good idea against a BYU team with a weak passing game and that the configuration wasn't working at all last night and he didn't intervene or overrule his defensive coordinator. How does that scheme get approved? How is Mack Brown not responsible for that abortion on defense? Because he is allowed to trust his hires to game plan, so Brown doesn't have to? When the hire was exposed as a complete travesty last year with his screwy stunts?

    I do think there is talent on both sides of the ball. I am not one to join in the present bewailing that there aren't even 5 more wins on the schedule. But I don't see how we should be looking at the Mack Brown employment question as some kind of quick and over the top reaction to a bad game. It has been 3+ years of bad games. It has been a 5-7 season, 2-6 in conference. It has been 11-15 in conference over 3 years. It has been promises of working back to NC contention during a couple of combined 80 point pastings by OU, complete embarrassments at the hands of KSU and Baylor, home losses to ISU and Baylor, the canning of most of the coaching staff, hiring of a coordinator who was completely ineffectual, the insistence on keeping him around one more year, total fiascoes in recruiting in consecutive years, hopeless mismanagement of the qb position for several years, and present insistence on some inferior players with seniority getting the nod.

    And after three years of promises and soothing words, we have a team that is beaten at the point of attack all night long on both sides of the ball. We have a team that loses Daje Johnson, who wasn't considered among the top 2 choices at rb going into the year, and suddenly it has lost a huge chunk of its firepower?

    Yeah, yeah, go ahead and fire Manny Diaz. The emperor is still naked.

    No one is saying Mack shouldn't be held accountable. But off of this game, no I don't think firing Mack makes a lot of sense.

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  • Well said Bobby. I hope you're right.

  • Practically anyone with DC experience at a 4A or 5A level in Texas or any college DC at any level would be an upgrade from Manny. But we all thought the same thing about Greg Davis. And we're still a pathetic mess on that side of the ball.

    Davis, Manny, and any other underperforming member of the Texas football staff are simply the symptoms of the decaying disease running rampant in the program now. Mack and DeLoss are disease, and Texas won't recover until those 2 are put to pasture. Or into a retirement home to continue the medical scheme.

    Come on, Bobby. I'm an insufferable optimist, but there is too much data on Mack and DeLoss now.

  • I'm late to the game. I've been ignoring this site for the day, but decided to take a look.

    Fining Diaz had to happen; but its probably too late to salvage the year or Mack's tenure in Austin. I simply couldn't believe he brought Diaz back after last year's defensive disaster. He simply out of his league. We are loaded with talent on this team defensively, but its incredibly poorly coached. What we saw last night was a replay of all of last year.

    If Mack had been smart and not loyal, he would have made this move last January and he would have a quality defense. But its too late. Robinson can transform this defense; but it will a couple of months before he can teach these kids how to actually play defense. In the meanwhile; we have Ole Miss, OU, OSU and Baylor who will make last night look mild.

    Mack made the worst decision of his career. It will haunt us for the remainder of this recruiting season. I can't see he coming back minus a sheer miracle. And this is from a Mack supporter.

  • josecanusee2 said... (original post)

    I've got a curious question as to when is it time to fire MB. Why did we hire Manny? Why did we hire Searles? Who is our TE's coach. Why did we hire Harsin? Did we hire or get the best top of the line coaches. Could there be a problem that we can't get the coaches we need because they do not want to work for MB. If that is so, Then it is time for him to go.

    When we replaced all our coaches, DID we get our top one, two, or three pick of coaches?? I don't know, but if we have to take retreads because the top and up coming coaches do not want to work under MB, then it is time.

    I think Chryst was the top choice at OC with the thought he would bring his OL coach from Wisconsin with him. When he said no, Mack turned to Harsin. I think Mack then went after Wickline the OL coach from Oklahoma State, but he said no as well. Then Mack turned to Searles. The TE coach has been the same for a while, but Chambers was originally brought in to open up the DFW area to Texas, which I would say he has helped immensely.

    As far as the DC goes, Mack should have given the job to Jerry Gray, especially after Akina left to go to Arizona. Though he had already hired Diaz. I remember starting a thread when Jerry left to go back to the NFL that he thought Diaz's scheme was shitty and got down-voted 80+ times.

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  • gordosan said... (original post)

    I'm late to the game. I've been ignoring this site for the day, but decided to take a look.

    Fining Diaz had to happen; but its probably too late to salvage the year or Mack's tenure in Austin. I simply couldn't believe he brought Diaz back after last year's defensive disaster. He simply out of his league. We are loaded with talent on this team defensively, but its incredibly poorly coached. What we saw last night was a replay of all of last year.

    If Mack had been smart and not loyal, he would have made this move last January and he would have a quality defense. But its too late. Robinson can transform this defense; but it will a couple of months before he can teach these kids how to actually play defense. In the meanwhile; we have Ole Miss, OU, OSU and Baylor who will make last night look mild.

    Mack made the worst decision of his career. It will haunt us for the remainder of this recruiting season. I can't see he coming back minus a sheer miracle. And this is from a Mack supporter.

    It does help to have 2 off weeks in the next month and half.

  • BobbyBurton said... (original post)

    No one is saying Mack shouldn't be held accountable. But off of this game, no I don't think firing Mack makes a lot of sense.

    My opinion is based on 3 years of data not a single game.

    I believe his best years are behind him and he has lost his ability to effectively lead a championship level team.

    Eventually there comes a time to cut your losses. As an FYI I do not believe firing a HC two games in but a behind the scenes retirement announced at the end of the season is warranted at this point.

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  • Well put and appreciated.

  • PDX Horn said... (original post)

    My opinion is based on 3 years of data not a single game.

    I believe his best years are behind him and he has lost his ability to effectively lead a championship level team.

    Eventually there comes a time to cut your losses. As an FYI I do not believe firing a HC two games in but a behind the scenes retirement announced at the end of the season is warranted at this point.

    So you'd fire Mack right now?

    Let's see how they finish out the year. Doing anything right now is overreacting.

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  • Mack wasted spring and fall practice with Manny. Mack will be next but in November.