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Since Texas has partnered up with ESPN it seems ESPN had the upper hand in the negotiations. Let's take a look after the signing:
1) Texas 117 year rivalry is no longer being played.
2) Thanksgiving game with Rivalry gone.
3) Most Fans do not have access to 3-4 TV games a year.
4) Texas exposure Nationally no longer nationally as before when playing in LHN.
5) Nebraska (which most Texas fans enjoyed seeing) no longer a Texas opponent.
6) 11 am games are played more often when on LHN. (as a fan I prefer 2 30 / 7 30 games.
7) Biggest rivalry A @ M has more exposure Nationally.
8) Opponent coaches can view Texas practices at times from their own TV (disadvantage)
9) Took Texas coach away from Football to do Studio work which Mack admitted effected his role.
These are few I came up off the cuff.....In my opinion Texas National brand would be served better if Texas went Independent like Notre Dame just in Football (like Notre Dame). Notre Dame is Independent and has no problem being affiliated with BCS schools. Currently the way I see it from a fan perspective Texas sold out its fans for a big payout. looking back it seems Texas in the long run gave up too much from fans perspective.
The LHN was a red herring when it came to Nebraska & a&m's desire to leave the conference.
I also call BS on opposing coaches gaining any sort of a competitive advantage from watching the programming on the channel. There is absolutely nothing that can be gained by watching drills and 1on1's that the station broadcasts.
While it sucks that we the fans are held hostage while they work out the distribution of the channel, it's a temporary inconvenience.
1, 2, 5 and 7 have nothing to do with the LHN, aggy and corn were leaving and there was nothing we could have done to stop them
8 - have you watched any of the practices, it does not show anything but drills, its just a Mack excuse
Texas is not going indy and it would be a bad idea to do so, we do not have the nationa pull/draw that ND does. I have lived out on the west coast for almost a decade and no one out here gives 2 flips about Texas football.
Obviously Deloss sold out the fans to make a buck, its what our athletic department has become, left field anyone ?
2) See #1
3) Sucks, but hopefully impermanent
4) Eh, no
5) See #1
6) Unsure if valid. Iowa State game could have easily been bad timeslot anyway.
8) Laughable Mackism
9) See #8
Don't know how you missed it, but even Notre Dame saw that independence can't last in new college football world. They are now semi-independent, semi-ACC. Eventual full conference membership is inevitable.
Since I'm full time RVing I usually get the games on Firstrowsports.eu. Well they covered this now and it was shut down, But what really pmo was that I started searching for radio and all the longhorn sites and most of the iowa site were "blacked out due to contract conflicts"???? What the hell is that?
Not sure I agree with all points, but definitely get your drift. I do disagree with the "Dodds sold out the fans for money". It's not like he's cashing the checks or getting kick backs. I think he definitely had the parents and fans in mind. And it's only hurting football parents and fans now - it's their greatest leverage.
But it's awesome for all other men's and women's sports and academics.. Once it gets on more tv's it's going to be a big recruiting advantage for all sports. Like yesterday there was a Longhorn Legends show where Chris Mihm, DJ Augustine, TJ Ford, Lamarcus Aldridge, and Kevin Durant sat in a circle and spoke about how important the University was in their lives and how great it was to play for Rick Barnes. How frigging awesome is that?!
Here's hoping Time Warner caves or Att Uverse expands!
Point 6 is just plain wrong. Past games on LHN:
2011 Rice - 7:00 pm
2011 Kansas - 6:00 pm
2012 Wyoming - 7:00 pm
2012 New Mexico - 7:00 pm
2012 Iowa State - 11:00 am
Also, for future reference, the "H" is not capitalized when spelling "Longhorns".
Well, it is an inconvenience. We can only hope it's temporary. Problem is, the definition of temporary is very open ended.
Short term loss for long term gain.
When that happens its easy to complain a lot about the short term loss. It is, after all, a loss.
On no. 7 - A&M is not our biggest rival - not even close.
1) Not LHN's fault.
2) Not LHN's fault.
3) I remember PPV games. Small issue on which I take a long view. (I also have LHN.)
4) The nation wasn't watching Texas play New Mexico, Wyoming or Iowa State anyway.
5) Not LHN's fault.
6) Not LHN's fault.
7) Not LHN's fault.
8) Have you ever watched a practice show? It's worthless. Almost no useful information can be gathered.
9) I think that was overblown. Mack spends 1 more hour doing media than in years past. Boohoo.
You forgot to put that LHN killed DKR.
You may dislike the LHN, but you need better reasons if you want to be taken seriously.
Signatures are stupid. You should block them.
I also dont see how ESPN "got the better deal". If one were to measure this by $, Texas got a huge source of additional revenue with no risk. ESPN is shooting itself in the foot by playing hardnose with the cable providers. The less the coverage with cable providers, the less the ad revenues ESPN makes. Over the period of the contract, I think ESPN will eventually work things out with the cable providers and make up its money. Their breakeven point to play hardnose is probably year 3 -- after that they will let loose if needed -- the bad PR and the lack of revenues will eventually take sway. This is just how the cable business and negotiations work in the business world...
Even in the game plan show, its interesting to watch the coaches do their analysis of the opposing team. Having said that, they dont share their game plan much. If anything, there's some reverse psychology going on saying things like "we dont what we will do to stop this team" at times. They may create an awareness of the knowledge they have on the opposing team but I think that whether LHN was there or not, the opposing team already knows that Texas class coaching staff has already done their homework...
Temporary - that's a joke.
As a fan base we have a lot of things to be mad about right now, the Longhorn Network causing A&M to leave should never be one of them. It is aggie propoganda and we should know better than to buy into it. They were talking with the SEC before the LHN deal was announced. They have admitted as much. UT was very open with the Longhorn Network and gave the aggies a chance to be part of it, they have admitted as much. They said a one school network wouldn't work, they missed the boat and bolted. They took the blood money from Nebraska and Colorado leaving to keep the conference together while still talking to the SEC. They have called it a 100 year decision, yet say it was because of a the LHN. They can't have it both ways.
The rest of your points are also silly.
A year and some change is certainly a long time, but the reality is that it's not at all uncommon for new channels to take a couple years to gain widespread distribution. It sucks being ESPN's pawn in the negotiating, and it's easy to let emotion cloud our objectivity, but it'll get resolved eventually.
Eventually - don't get me started ...
How long was it before you had ESPN2? ESPN News? ESPN Classic? NFL Network? Comedy Central? Food Network? MLB Network? This is no different. Hell I'm in Houston and can't watch the Rockets.
Look, it sucks not having it (I have it and it is amazing), but Verizon and AT&T both have pretty large footprints, so a lot of people can get it. It has not had the detrimental effect on the program and the conferences that Texas haters would want you to believe it does. It has been a huge positive for all the programs. Kids will want to be featured on the all access shows and be interviewed nightly.
Refer to the "let emotion cloud our objectivity" part of my post.
It sucks because it directly affects us, but what's happening is common.
Agree with this. I have LHN. It took a long time to get distribution for other popular networks. Let's give it time. The quality of the coaches shows, etc....is awesome. Also, getting to watch basketball and baseball games that I wouldn't have otherwise seen.
I love my LHN.
Roe, before you share any more thoughts on the LHN, you really should try to seek to better understand the subject matter. Right now, you're acting like a panic stricken child because A&M just won it's first big game in some15 years and you're looking for someone/something to blame.
This post was edited by TexShoe 20 months ago
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So are you assuming that none of the network money aggy will receive is going to the actual university? Every cent will be funneled into the athletic department? Thats laughable. 9 million > 5 million.
First of all its 3 games. 1 of which might have been pay per view anyway. If you are in Houston Austin or Dallas, uverse, grande, and fios have a big enough footprint that you could have watched the games.
Also that article by the midnight yell blog is garbage. It glosses over the fact that money is going to the university. It also makes the erroneous assumption that the aggies left because of the lhn. It doesn't factor in the money they lost by breaching a contract nor does it take into account any of the other benefits we receive from having our own network. As I said, garbage.
What I do not like is the announcers who seem to have a heckuva time getting the players names called correctly and seemed to misinterpret more plays than one would think they would. Guess with such a small viewership you get what you produce.
But it has nothing to do with viewership, Mike Patrick and Ed Cunnigham do games on ESPN, they were just awful. The production value on LHN is amazing.
This Scipio Tex write-up ABSOLUTELY sums up my thoughts...These guys were thoroughly $hitty throughout the broadcast.
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