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The SEC is extremely overrated. The only reason they get in the championship games is due to the "SEC" bias where the pollsters put the whole conference in the top 25 and 7 in the top 10. LSU going down and Florida getting spanked by a BIG EAST team only helps destroy this ridiculous mentality. All we need is for Alabama to go down..
LOL anything aggy touches turns to shit
..... and aggie. Sooners need to prove the aggies are still a middle of the pack Big 12 team! That's the game of the year to me.
This post was edited by TeeDoe 15 months ago
Your right. Can't believe I forgot about that game.
0-4 vs. the Big East combined with 1-2 vs. the Sun Belt is pretty hard to spin, although I'm sure they'll try.
I agree the aggies have to lose to Oklahoma, and Bama needs to get spanked. Sec teams have to start showing how weak they were this season.
All the more reason to get rid of polls. Without opinions being in the mix, you wouldnt have to worry about what anybody thought, SOS or anything like that.
There is nothing more dangerous in this world than a man with nothing to lose.
I think the problem with the league is that the offenses are way too "safe" and haven't really kept up with the times.
Food for thought.
Tajh Boyd beat LSU and Bridgewater beat Florida. Both accomplished something Johnny Manziel couldn't at home.
I personally think Manziel is plenty legit and so are the Aggies. But I don't think A&M is a top 10 team either.
This post was edited by BobbyBurton 15 months ago
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The scheduling in that league allows for a ton of teams to end up with good records. 8 game schedules in a 14 team league is beyond ridiculous. So the good teams essentially have 3 tough games. Win one of them and you're top ten.
Of course they are, Bobby. They are a 10-2 SEC team which automatically qualifies them for the national Top 10.
They probably would have lost as many or more in the Big 12 where they would have had to press more on offense.
Totally agree Bobby!
Absolutely. I'd project an 8-4/7-5 record for them in the Big XII. They would have a tough time keeping up with Baylor, ou and OSU in my opinion. There just aren't any offenses that potent in the SECSEC.
Because of some work connections, I have free tickets to the OK v A&M game. Even though I hate both teams, A&M is the obvious one to root against and it would not surprise me if OU won by more than two touchdowns. It has been such as weird season, it would not surprise me if the opposite were true. Go Bix XII!
A pretty silly statement on the surface of it. Since all of the conferences act independently of each other and have different methods of competing and choosing champions, there has to be some objective or subjective measure if all teams are not in the playoff. Computer models are simply polls run by a single person or organization with their built-in bias in the form of programming. You might as well spread the bias out over a broader group. Selection committees are simply polls held behind closed doors in secret.
Polls have only been around about 100 years in one form or another and it isn't likely to go away even with a playoff system being brought into play. Basketball takes half the teams in the country into a playoff and polls are still taken into account there, although the influence is minimal because of the number of teams.
The fact that people on the 247 and other sites care about recruiting rankings of players would point to the fact that polls will never go away. After all, ranking a player above another player is simply a poll using the judgement of the staff of the organization. Even in the last couple of days we have read where one of the staffs were deadlocked on the ranking of a player and Bobby was brought in to cast the deciding vote for the poll results. We now have the 247 Composite rankings which simply take all of the polls and summarize them together for an average ranking.
Trends happen over time because there is a reason for them. It was patently unfair for both LSU and Alabama to be in the championship game last year. However, it was difficult to argue based on historical results that either one did not deserve to be in the game. We just need to beat the sobs in a couple of championship games and the clarion sound will diminish very quickly. Even though I hate Notre Dame, I will be rooting for them to win just to start the process of some reality coming back and to shut the Finebaum nation up.
This post was edited by rozell99 15 months ago
I agree, and I think the only offense that didn't keep it safe this year was A&M, which is why they were able to keep games close or surprise a couple of teams....I think everyone will be ready for them next year though...
Not silly at all. Polls are the bane of college football. All anyone is ever talking about during the season is who is and who isnt overrated, based on what polls say. Who cares how a conference chooses its champ, thats academic and specific to the conference. They send an unworthy champion on a flawed system, its on them and only them. When they get to the playoff, nothing can save them but their play on the field. Polls are very very very subjective rather than objective. If Lousiville, ND and Bama all go undefeated, who do you think they are going to send to the MNC and based on what? Most of the time, its on historical value and name brand, not what a team has done that year. You say look who have they played? Well, if youre going to say anybody can win on any given day, then it doesnt matter. The perception and bias in polls is killing college football. Why isnt Kst in the title game? Why isnt Oregon? Because they dont play in the SEC and since they arent, they must have lost to inferior competition. Well, Lousiville says hello with thier inferior product.
Polls may not go anywhere, but they should go away forever. 8 or 16 team playoff is the way to go with conference champs getting in for sure. Too many times polls have shown bias from coaches and ignorance from AP/Harris poll voters. In 2007, Pinkel voted Missouri ahead of OU after OU beat them a second time in the B12 title game. Thats the kind of stuff polls will get you. Some people on this board have 2008 fresh on the brain and why, they feel like polls screwed them.
It should be champs only. Win your conference and you are in. Every team in college football has an equal shot at winning the national title when conference play starts. But that makes too much sense.
Arkansas historically hadn't under Petrino. And they gave people headaches in the SEC even with underwhelming talent.
I just think the conservative offenses of the SEC make you be too perfect from an execution standpoing, especially if you somehow get behind by 2 scores.
After the aggies and alabama lose, would it not be a beautiful sight and sound to hear the Non SEC fans at the stadiums chant "SEC" ..."OVERRATED". "SEC"... "OVERRATED"
I dont know what yall are talking about. The SEC is obviously struggling in their bowls due to the fact they have played such a devastatingly tough schedule up to this point.
The SEC of signatures....
Exactly, and it's so hard for them to get motivated to play such inferior competition! Plus, the other teams aren't playing fair. They're violating the SEC rules of unimaginative offenses and big defenses.
Full disclosure, I, as many of you know, grew up an SEC guy.
That said, I have two thoughts on this.
1. I agree that the SEC is overrated. Florida wasn't as good as its No. 3 ranking suggested. Nor was LSU, nor was South Carolina. The media still slurps up the SEC hype and pushes it nonstop. Even as an SEC guy I find it ridiculous that so many people in the sports media world can't stop for a second and look around to see conferences like the Big 12 and Pac-12 playing legitimate football.
2. I disagree that the overrating of the SEC is why they get in championship games. It's been proven since 2006 that the best teams in the conference are very much worthy of playing in the title games.
I can't wait til 2014 when we get closer to settling things on the field. Would have loved to see a ND, 'Bama, Oregon, K-State final four this year.
If Bama couldn't stop Manziel, I would have loved to see them try to stop Oregon's speed...
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