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Agree that a new stadium on different grounds--say west campus--is preferable. But you know us Ags, we must retain that hallowed ground where Kyle's always been situated. After all, countless feats have been forged on that space of land--the likes of which no program has ever attained nor ever will.
Looks really good to me.
The problem with rebuilding in a different location would be that you would end up spending a ton of money rebuilding infrastructure -- plumbing, electrical, etc. -- that currently exists on the site. Not to mention the aforementioned Zone (schools like Florida have exact same thing) that opened in the 90s. As a result, that money is all going to be poured into the expansion and new ameneties and parking garages.
In a perfect world, I would have preferred they build on another location -- or played away in Houston or whatever for a season -- so that it didn't take as long to tear down the old structures and rebuild, but I understand why they're doing it this way. And since my tiny contribution doesn't mean much, who am I to argue?
For those that asked, the RFP called for "as long as three years" -- building just during the offseason. So they plan is to tear down most first two decks of the East Stands after this season and rebuild that before 2014. Old G Rollie -- the old Holler House on the Brazos for those whomever visited -- will I assume be torn down at the same time. Then I'm not sure what the order is for the West Stands, new South End Zone and facade.
Everything should be approved in a couple months and we'll learn more. The cost is somewhere north of $400 million. The reason some of the renderings started leaking out this week is because they're asking the students to approve a fee for the first time to pay 40 percent of the costs on their side (East Side total construction cost is $96 million). I think it would be $1.50 or $2.00 per hour.
I was under the impression that the only part seeking approval and going forward at this time was the East Side renovation for the $96 mil and that the total concept is only designed as more of a future goal to keep renovations inline with a single vision.
Is that wrong?
The Board of Regents will be asked to approve the entire project this Spring. The East Side funding approval is just a separate issue that's being put to the students.
There was never any question about the East and West Stands being rebuilt. They're not up to code and it has to be done. It was last year that they decided to increase capacity as a result of SEC rules for the number of tickets that have to be made available to visiting teams and they can't be endzone seats.
You sure about SEC visiting seats can't be in the end zones? It seems like all the visitors that I see on television are always in the end zones.
Fairly certain the only rule is like 1.5K seating in the lower level.
Looks Great! I will never buy ice cream again!
Good explanation of the situation and bylaw:
Southeastern Conference rules on student seating at football games have forced A&M to move the Fightin' Texas Aggie Band at Kyle Field and re-arrange student seating. Since students are not allowed to sit between the 30 yard line behind the visiting team in the first 25 rows of the stadium, A&M has had to move students out of their traditional seats in the first deck. While I understand concerns for player safety are the motivation for this rule, I could see logical reasons for A&M appealing this rule. While some some SEC schools may have student sections that may be known for throwing things at opposing teams, Aggies have never had such a reputation. The worst thing I've ever seen a student throw at Kyle Field were the yellow lids to Lemon Chill containers, which made excellent frisbees at September day games. The lids rarely, if ever, made it down onto the field, and I haven't seen anyone throw one in over fifteen years. In any case, there is a conference rule against debris bring thrown onto the field, and all conference members are to eject offenders. It would seem to me that this rule would ensure the safety of opposing players, but the SEC takes it one step further, and removes fans from being directly behind the bench.
As one of the few universities that gives a large allotment of tickets to their students so they can fill one side of the field (Penn State has a similarly large student section), one of A&M's longstanding traditions has been that students, which represent the 12th Man, will stand on the East side of Kyle Field during games. The East side of Kyle also happens to be right behind the visiting team's bench area. The location of so many students near the opposing team has never been a problem at Kyle Field. With the exception of an incident at the 1998 A&M-Baylor game in Waco, I don't recall many incidents in the Big 12 or Southwest Conference where the location of students near the opposing benches has caused a problem. In the Big 12, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech fanbases are right on top of the field, and in the case of Oklahoma State, mere feet from the players themselves. Despite their close proximity, fan-opposing player confrontations have been non-existent. SEC rules require that we give up the first 25 rows of seating behind the opposing team benches, so we're complying.
At this time, I'm guessing the first few rows of seats directly behind the opposing team will go to either former students as new season tickets, or to the families and invited guests of the opposing team. The seats in the first few rows of the first deck have very limited sight lines, so they're not particularly coveted seats, but they are seats that belonged to the 12th Man. I don't think the change in seating is going to hurt the 12th Man at all, because they'll just take up new seating and keep yelling just as loud. The location of seats doesn't change the 12th Man's ability to affect a game; there is a reason the Aggies always choose to force opposing teams to go into the Zone when given the option in overtime. The cacophony of noise being trapped in the enclosed section is deafening.
The move to the SEC is also causing consternation for opposing fanbases, specifically Florida. Accustomed to receiving 8500 tickets for away games, Florida fans were shocked when their ticket office informed them that they would only receive 6000 tickets to A&M's SEC and home opener at Kyle this season. Since we're moving from a conference where we only needed to provide visiting fans with 3850 tickets to a conference where opposing fans travel more, A&M agreed with the SEC offices to provide 6000 tickets to opposing fans. In order to meet this allotment, the athletic department actually had to take away tickets from current ticket holders, and angered part of their customer base. Part of our agreement with the SEC is that we will receive 6000 tickets to away games, because that is the number of tickets we provide to opposing fans for our games.
so $400 million for a renovated Kyle Field? Granted it is dated, Reliant Stadium was built for approximately $487 million with a moving roof. Seems that they would be better off starting all over...
Lol...I give up trying to exlain how this works. Haha.
The newer interior renderings do look nice, but sorry, the exterior and new stands don't. That is not petulance. Nor does that mean it doesn't give them an immediate recruiting advantage or that its not great. Just not pretty like the completed Dkr renderings or model.
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