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University of Texas sophomore guard Myck Kabongo will not play in Friday’s season opener against Fresno State, the school announced Thursday. The NCAA continues to work with UT officials to complete its investigation but has not made a ruling on Kabongo’s eligibility at this time.
EDIT: Barnes just told the media that Jaylen Bond will also miss the game. He injured his right ankle on Tuesday.
This post was edited by Dave Behr 17 months ago
A trained monkey could have completed an investigation by now. This pocket veto nonsense that the NCAA continues to pull is an embarrassment and eventually some court is going to call the NCAA on it and blow the whole thing up.
is this gonna be like Jordan Hicks' weekly injury status?
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LOL. This makes no sense at all. All this time and Tristan, the Man in question, Myck and his brother have all responed and I am guessing showed all bank account info and NCAA still can't figure it out. This is just the NCAA showing it has power even though there is nothing to find. How hard is it to follow the money trail?
This post was edited by Jordan91 17 months ago
"I don't want this year to be well if Myck would have been allowed to play we could have gone this far"
Yeah this is a joke. At least let the kid play until you come up with a ruling. This is the opposite of "innocent until proven guilty."
It's benefit to the team to hold him out until he's cleared or there's the possibility of forfeiting wins. If I'm not mistaken, it's UT that is holding him out
Leaving an availability with Barnes. Jaylen Bond will also miss the game. He injured his right ankle on Tuesday.
The kid also can go to the courts but Coach Barnes is probably against that.
Gerry and I have mentioned on another thread that the main issue probably isn't who paid for the trip. It's probably the report about an agent calling NBA teams about Kabongo before the draft.
While I agree with the idea of letting him play until something is proven, the "innocent until proven guilty" is really only a legal concept that is valid within the confines of the courtroom. As other posters have said, it certainly appears to be a case of the NCAA dragging its feet because it can.
Barnes on Myck's eligibility:
We’ll wait until we hear from [the NCAA] and until we hear from them we’ll continue to keep [Kabongo] out of the game. The one thing we would never do is do something that would jeopardize this team, because if you play a guy that they’ve ruled ineligible they take away those games. We’ll stay with the fact that until we hear from them he won’t play.
Also, Barnes said their timetable for when they think they'll hear from the NCAA is "today or tomorrow".
We'll see if that happens, but it would definitely be welcomed to find out exactly how long they're going to be without their PG.
Sucks for Bond. Hopefully a minor ankle sprain.
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Yeah, Barnes has been really high on Bond in the few times we've gotten to talk to him leading up to this season.
Called him the best rebounded on the team today.
"We're going to have to have someone, or as a group, be able to take care of [rebounding], because that's the one thing he brings. He's tough and a tough-minded player. He's improved so much since last year and has had a great fall, and it's just tough that it happened. It just happened because he plays hard."
Yes today or tomorrow would be very good. It would really suck if they drag their feet for a couple more weeks and then decide to suspend on top of that. The sooner this gets put behind us the better.
To be clear, it's the combination of the NCAA intentionally dragging its feet and then instituting punishment retroactively that is the problem. The NCAA should have x days from when a school self reports (and "x" can change depending on the issue) to finalize a ruling. If the NCAA doesn't in that time, the student should be able to play with no threat of retroactive punishment to the team.
On what basis do you claim the NCAA is "intentionally dragging its feet" in this case?
If the member institutions want to remove the threat of retroactive penalties, they can easily do so.
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He can go, but his chances of winning are near zero, and that's just because I'm being kind.
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Hopefully no one against this delay was in favor of the Penn State penalties. Once you give a crap bag organization more power, you deserve what you get.
Not the same issue at all. The Penn State penalties were a power grab where the NCAA really had no authority. Here, the NCAA always has had authority to investigate extra benefits/eligibility.
Now, whether they are moving as fast as they can... that's another matter.
Its a power play by an inept group of bureaucrats. The rules are imposed in a completely arbitrary fashion. Hopefully no one is naive enough to think that any kid trying to decide whether or not to turn pro or come back to college hasn't sought advise outside of his head coach; and if he knows anyone playing pro ball, that advise probably is being made by someone in the business. The NCAA knows this. At this point; its just a power trip by micro-phallic NCAA bureaucrats. They fully know that Myck had a professional make a few calls to find out where he would be drafted and how much he would be paid; but they also know that no NBA is going to corroborate that.
The main issue is who paid for the trip. There is absolutely no question about that. . The NCAA is pretty sure that the agent did and they probably are correct; but Tristan has given cover to Myck and the NCAA is having a snit. Like any little bureaucratic piss-ant; they are going to drag their feet as long as they can.
See what gordosan said for your first question. Give me a freaking break on your second comment. Exactly when have the member institutions shown any inclination to fight the bureaucratic monster they have created? And, in any event, I fail to see what the ineptitude of the the member institutions in reigning in the monster they created justifies the monster's actions.
Sorry, but all gordosan said was 1) an opinion that the rules are enforced in an arbitrary fashion, 2) an opinion that everyone breaks this particular rule, and 3) and a highly petulant declaration that NCAA staff members asked to determine what punishment is appropriate when someone is discovered breaking the rule have small penises. That hardly constitutes any evidence that the NCAA is deliberately dragging on an investigation.
Of course, the idea that it might take some time for investigators to collect evidence from several different sources, many of which will have a tendency to refuse to cooperate with investigators, and that it might take time for a panel to review the evidence and compare/contrast Kabongo's situation to similar past occurrences so that they might be able to be little more uniform in their punishments seems to be a foreign notion to you both.
Regarding the second point, why are you so certain that the disinclination of member institutions to force a radical restructuring of the NCAA is evidence of ineptitude or that the NCAA is some kind of tyrant holding sway over the members? The members can get rid of it, if they are so inclined. They can leave it in large groups. Yet, they stay. You might be a little more open to the notion that the presidents prefer things the way they are and may have good reason to do so.
While you seem to be of the mind that this is a simple issue of no significance, let me remind you that every single member institution gives its players brochures and instructions on what they can and can't do with agents. For example, here is a brochure handed out by Tech to athletes, parents, and prospective agents.
One of the things the players are told is don't have an agent make draft inquiries on your behalf. The coach can. The school's professional sports counseling panel can. The player can. The player's parents can. An agent can't. It's not that hard. The rule permitting the player, his parents, and the counseling panel to make the inquiry has been around for twenty years.
So you guys really want uniform application of the rules in a quick resolution? Even if that means the NCAA has little choice but to decide it has evidence the rule was broken therefore amateur status is forfeit and Kabongo's career is over?
Screw that. Give me a body that will try to get the details and try to hand out a reasonable punishment that is commensurate with other punishments handed down in similar situations. If we have to wait a few weeks, it's worth the wait.
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